New Errors Discovered in 1995

[artes1]

Is the Puckett available for sale? If so, I’m interested.


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After they are graded I’ll get back to you seeing that you are passionate about that player.Thanks.


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[DragonWagon]

Sorry, but seems like a defect that would devalue the card to me.


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[artes1]

Yeah, we are gradually evolving to embrace errors as collectible - instead of seemingly planned “accidents” like the FF Billy card.


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[artes1]

I think they look kind of cool all grouped together like that. But the fact is, based on prior experience, these are worth very little. If you feel that your artistic appreciation will revolutionize the card world and make these worth a lot of money, then by all means continue to believe this. You came on this board asking for "feedback" on these cards you found, you were given feedback by knowledgeable collectors, and instead of listening to the feedback you only want to argue about how you know better. eBay is open to all, both the long time collectors set in their ways and somebody who bought their first pack yesterday. Take the cards there and see what the market says.

I'm sorry people who have dealt with cards for decades had the audacity to not tell you exactly what you wanted to hear.

Looks like I already got interest in the cards

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[K34PuckettAddict]

I’m a Puckett addict though. [emoji3]


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[K34PuckettAddict]

Also worth noting, I’m a big fan of his errors, misprints, unfinished stock, printers waste and the like...


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[mrmopar]

Many factors create the iconic error cards that everyone covets. Call it a perfect storm or whatever you want, but print defects alone do not make an ordinary card desirable in the majority of cases. If Thomas had not gotten hot and gone on to a HOF career, I am willing to bet that the 90 Blackless cards would be less popular (and cheaper) than the 82 Blackless. I'd be curious to see how the quantity stacks up. The 82 Blackless set is fairly large, and includes several popular star players, but no rookies to rave about but they are fairly scarce. The 90 set is small (what, a dozen cards affected maybe). I am going to guess the print run is smaller, but that is an unknown. Thomas carries that list of players and a star or two as well.

Black backs, miscuts, print dots, color streaks, missing color, etc. Most of them fall somewhere in the slightly more interesting than the base card range to a select class of collector. A select few elevator to 90 Thomas NNOF status.

The thread and follow up comments by the OP feels like a marketing blitz to create excitement about the cards. That is fine. Maybe they are unique. If there is no damage to the card (cause it does kind of look like the surface was scratched off), then I'm sure some folks will pay a premium for them, especially the Jordan. That card could elevate under the right circumstances, which could in turn elevate the others, even if they are boring 1994 UD CC checklists.

 

[deaconblues63]

Looks like I already got interest in the cards

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I’m hoping @cjedmonton will run one of his fantastic contests regarding what the difference is between what the OP thinks the card is worth and what K34PuckettAddict thinks it is worth. I’m sure the difference will be enormous.

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[mrmopar]

I didn't say it, but was thinking the same. The threads that "innocently" hype interest in something, making it seem larger than it probably is, are usually someone trying to justify a steep asking price.

Good luck to the guy is all I can say. There are always people willing to pay more than the average for something. I see it so often on ebay, surprisingly enough, that it is no longer even shocking to me anymore. The lucky sellers find those people. Heck, I just sold a flat rate box of heavily used toploaders for about $65! I can't complain about buyers like that.

 

[Dilferules]

Looks like I already got interest in the cards

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I was going to leave you alone but I've had it with you pretending to ask for feedback/opinions only to respond to anything you don't like with thinly-veiled condescension about long-time collectors not being evolved enough to appreciate the artistic merits of these cards. Though I did enjoy watching you complain about all of the sarcastic responses, then turn around and "like" the most sarcastic response in the thread because it was telling you what you wanted to hear.

I never said the cards were worth nothing, I said they were worth very little. @K34PuckettAddict , just curious, about what were you looking to pay for the Puckett?

I'm not sure why I'm bothering since at this point I think it's 90% this is a long-time member having fun trolling, 10% it's really some guy whose head got stuck up his butt when he sniffed his own farts too hard. On that ten percent chance, maybe pay attention to your own writing and have some self-awareness: "collectors that swear by their own doctrines of what’s valuable and what’s not - maybe what’s in their collection".

Oh, and these cards are from 1994, not 1995, Knowledgeable One.

 

[banjar]

So who's the longtime member trolling us? I blew by that comment during my initial read of this thread, but the more I think about it, this has to be a first-rate trolling. @JVHaste is that you?

But on the other hand, part of me hopes this is real. I mean, there's literally nobody else on earth that likes oddball Robbie Alomar cards more than I do. And these cards - wow, just WOW. These are the Glengarry leads! I definitely want in on the ground floor here, so I'll go $3.00 delivered for the Alomar. And if it gets graded, I'd go up to $5.00. I am a serious buyer, and I DO keep these sums on hand for special opportunities!

I was going to leave you alone but I've had it with you pretending to ask for feedback/opinions only to respond to anything you don't like with thinly-veiled condescension about long-time collectors not being evolved enough to appreciate the artistic merits of these cards. Though I did enjoy watching you complain about all of the sarcastic responses, then turn around and "like" the most sarcastic response in the thread because it was telling you what you wanted to hear.

I never said the cards were worth nothing, I said they were worth very little. @K34PuckettAddict , just curious, about what were you looking to pay for the Puckett?

I'm not sure why I'm bothering since at this point I think it's 90% this is a long-time member having fun trolling, 10% it's really some guy whose head got stuck up his butt when he sniffed his own farts too hard. On that ten percent chance, maybe pay attention to your own writing and have some self-awareness: "collectors that swear by their own doctrines of what’s valuable and what’s not - maybe what’s in their collection".

Oh, and these cards are from 1994, not 1995, Knowledgeable One.

 

[2014BESTSERVICE]

First= artes1 welcome to the FCB collecting community and like the rest of the hobby ( and life) you'll encounter all types of people- and responses. Let's try my own response to what your inquiring about.

I'd appreciate knowing your name if you have one- first name is fine. Mines obvious in my username
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what do you think they will consider them? Error or defect?

ERROR: something produced by mistake ;a typographical error especially .
Examples: a postage stamp or sports card exhibiting a consistent flaw (such as a wrong color) in its manufacture
Hobby Examples : 1982 Blackless, 1990 Frank Thomas No Name - etc

DEFECT:an imperfection or abnormality that impairs quality, function, or utility;shortcoming, flaw;
Examples: checking a car tire ,or the surface of a sports card, for deficiencies, flaws, or imperfections
Hobby Examples- most recent I pay attention to is Patrick Mahomes 2017 Prizm cards showing the same surface defect over nearly 60% of the print run, and only advanced player guys know his pristine graded examples when seen, and they bid accordingly on them. As in a thousands of $$ more.

To answer this question you posed.

If the surface is raised - I'd consider it a printing "defect" and would expect it to be hammered as such. I'd also personally expect low grades. They'll still slab them- they'll slab even torn or ripped Mantles, so a defective surface wouldn't be any different. I'd just temper my own expectations.

Now if the surface is NOT raised- and it's streaked but smooth- I'd personally currently consider that a one off printing "error" . Unless someone could show this same flaw occurring in numerous unopened printing runs that were not caught. Then myself- and probably the entire hobby- would embrace it as a normal "error" card and people would start cracking those boxes looking for them. The surface would still be considered streaked and missing color- so they'd hammer the grade again.

Very interesting topic of discussion. Surprised E&V expert Rick Klein hasn't weighed in= he's on this website.

You will find many advanced player collectors do collect player errors, misprints, unfinished stock, printers waste and similar items of interest (see above Puckett collector comments). Let us know what happens and post them when they return. Depending on player- raw anywhere from $5-25 for stars. It's a niche market. You'll find there's an eBay seller called "Leximo" that sells tons of numerous Pacific related similar items. I always post stuff and take offline offers myself. No fees except PayPal and postage is always negotiable that way. If you do grade them- I'd be interested just to see what they'd do.

Good luck and interesting first post.

jeff

 

[artes1]

Many factors create the iconic error cards that everyone covets. Call it a perfect storm or whatever you want, but print defects alone do not make an ordinary card desirable in the majority of cases. If Thomas had not gotten hot and gone on to a HOF career, I am willing to bet that the 90 Blackless cards would be less popular (and cheaper) than the 82 Blackless. I'd be curious to see how the quantity stacks up. The 82 Blackless set is fairly large, and includes several popular star players, but no rookies to rave about but they are fairly scarce. The 90 set is small (what, a dozen cards affected maybe). I am going to guess the print run is smaller, but that is an unknown. Thomas carries that list of players and a star or two as well.

Black backs, miscuts, print dots, color streaks, missing color, etc. Most of them fall somewhere in the slightly more interesting than the base card range to a select class of collector. A select few elevator to 90 Thomas NNOF status.

The thread and follow up comments by the OP feels like a marketing blitz to create excitement about the cards. That is fine. Maybe they are unique. If there is no damage to the card (cause it does kind of look like the surface was scratched off), then I'm sure some folks will pay a premium for them, especially the Jordan. That card could elevate under the right circumstances, which could in turn elevate the others, even if they are boring 1994 UD CC checklists.

Great informative post on the subject of this uncanny box of cards. There’s more in the box that seem hit by this print run gone amok. I’ll post more.


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[artes1]

Thanks

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[artes1]

So who's the longtime member trolling us? I blew by that comment during my initial read of this thread, but the more I think about it, this has to be a first-rate trolling. @JVHaste is that you?

But on the other hand, part of me hopes this is real. I mean, there's literally nobody else on earth that likes oddball Robbie Alomar cards more than I do. And these cards - wow, just WOW. These are the Glengarry leads! I definitely want in on the ground floor here, so I'll go $3.00 delivered for the Alomar. And if it gets graded, I'd go up to $5.00. I am a serious buyer, and I DO keep these sums on hand for special opportunities!

I must say some of the responses have been positive, but others seem from the peanut gallery.


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[artes1]

I was going to leave you alone but I've had it with you pretending to ask for feedback/opinions only to respond to anything you don't like with thinly-veiled condescension about long-time collectors not being evolved enough to appreciate the artistic merits of these cards. Though I did enjoy watching you complain about all of the sarcastic responses, then turn around and "like" the most sarcastic response in the thread because it was telling you what you wanted to hear.

I never said the cards were worth nothing, I said they were worth very little. @K34PuckettAddict , just curious, about what were you looking to pay for the Puckett?

I'm not sure why I'm bothering since at this point I think it's 90% this is a long-time member having fun trolling, 10% it's really some guy whose head got stuck up his butt when he sniffed his own farts too hard. On that ten percent chance, maybe pay attention to your own writing and have some self-awareness: "collectors that swear by their own doctrines of what’s valuable and what’s not - maybe what’s in their collection".

Oh, and these cards are from 1994, not 1995, Knowledgeable One.

I’m enjoying the posts, even yours, because after all it’s feedback. Thanks for your responses to my error cards - and to my own innocent error about them being from 1994 not 1995. I just posted another group of error cards. Feel free to engage. Thanks and no hard feelings.


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[K34PuckettAddict]

While I’m definitely interested in the Puckett, I wouldn’t pay more than what was mentioned above for the Alomar. $3-$5 range max with or without grading...

I wouldn’t personally consider this an error in my collection, it would definitely be a defect to me. Which is completely fine all the same. I just don’t pay as much for these sorts of defects as I will pay for error cards. Blank back/fronts, wrong back/fronts, etc...


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[artes1]

While I’m definitely interested in the Puckett, I wouldn’t pay more than what was mentioned above for the Alomar. $3-$5 range max with or without grading...

I wouldn’t personally consider this an error in my collection, it would definitely be a defect to me. Which is completely fine all the same. I just don’t pay as much for these sorts of defects as I will pay for error cards. Blank back/fronts, wrong back/fronts, etc...


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Thanks

 

[MrMet]

Sorry, these cards are out of your league.

Omg!!!!


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[K34PuckettAddict]

I meant no disrespect with my comment. I’m still interested in the card if you’re unable to get what you’d like to for the card. Otherwise, I’ll have to chalk this one up to the second Puckett card that’s been out of my league then, just behind his 1996 Select Certified Mirror Gold. I suppose you win some and you lose some...


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