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rob167 said:
there are not a lot of speaker cuts out there, that i know for sure. i am not saying i catch all cut auto sales, but here is all that i have tracked for speaker.

Pre 2008 Tris Speaker 2008 SP Legendary Cuts 2/4 $1,633.99
April, 2009 Tris Speaker 2009 Topps American Heritage 1/1 $1,075.01


Thanks for the information. So it looks to be maybe $1500 or so.
 

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bmp1 said:
Here is a scan. Thanks

TrisSpeaker.jpg


Nice card!
 

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I'd say closer to 2K (possibly higher) rather than 1500, since it's a 1 of 1 from a premium brand, and have game used items on it as well. Congrats to your friend!
 

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Speaker autos of the quality in the $1000 eBay auction sell for around $300-$350.
 

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I just met my friend and took a picture of the card. Looks really nice and I appreciate the feedback on this. He is lucky that is for sure. :D
 

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Re: 1/1 cut auto just pulled. ( Scan Added)

So the speaker was one of the better hits in this years product? Dang. I just ordered a box and hope there are a few others. :)
 

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bmp1 said:
So the speaker was one of the better hits in this years product? Dang. I just ordered a box and hope there are a few others. :)

Are you saying a 1/1 dual relic cut deceased signature of a HOFer is not one of the best hits?

I didn't indicate that there weren't plenty of others... but there are some horrid boxes out there. There's a Las Vegas card shop that posted a case break of this product, box by box, on Youtube. He essentially flushed $1500 or so down the drain.

My point is that if this is a $225-250 product, and a rare hit gets you only 4-5x the product cost, it's not a great product.
 

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I understand what you are saying and I know it is a great hit, just didn't know if it was one the the best. I dont open much baseball.
 
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Jeff N. said:
bmp1 said:
So the speaker was one of the better hits in this years product? Dang. I just ordered a box and hope there are a few others. :)

Are you saying a 1/1 dual relic cut deceased signature of a HOFer is not one of the best hits?

I didn't indicate that there weren't plenty of others... but there are some horrid boxes out there. There's a Las Vegas card shop that posted a case break of this product, box by box, on Youtube. He essentially flushed $1500 or so down the drain.

My point is that if this is a $225-250 product, and a rare hit gets you only 4-5x the product cost, it's not a great product.

I have to second this as well.... ;)

Cost of product has to be taken into consideration....
$1.00 scratch off ticket wins $100.00...Nice
$25.00 scratch off ticket wins $100.00 OK

100X times your invest ment vs. 4X..
If it come out of a $1.50 Topps pack then we are talkin' :shock:
 

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That Speaker is a really nice card, but Sterling has been a piss poor value since they started using stickers for the autos.
 

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Sean_C said:
I'd say closer to 2K (possibly higher) rather than 1500, since it's a 1 of 1 from a premium brand, and have game used items on it as well. Congrats to your friend!


This
 

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This is why its impossible to gauge the value of 1/1s and rare cards using eBay. Even the seller has no idea what the card would sell for on ebay, but is guessing they might get lucky if a 'person A' existed - the seller is counting on a bidder that will offer far above what anyone else would pay.

By 'fielding offers' you're essentially doing the same thing that ebay auctions do automatically, except in ebay auctions the process is more transparent. But why would a bidder want to be in a position where he'd have to pay far more than the next closest bidder??

It comes down to the type of rare card that's being auctioned and where its being sold. Big auction houses (ie. NOT ebay) can promote items and potential bidders will know for weeks and months that a card is coming and can prepare their bank accounts if necessary. This works for cards whose prices are not volatile. On the other hand, you're not likely to see a Heyward Super in an auction house. Ebay is really quick and can better handle volatile, rare prospect cards whose values fluctuate daily.

nyc3 said:
chashawk said:
You could actually leave money on the table starting it at 0.99 cents as well. This was discussed yesterday.

In an auction format, no matter how much person A is willing to pay for the item, you are relying on person B
to be willing to pay almost as much to drive the price up. If person A is willing to pay $2,000, but person B is
only willing to pay $1,200, then you are only going to get approx. $1,250 for the card. However, if you list it
as a $3,000 BIN/BO, you can field offers and get close to the maximum of what someone is willing to spend.
Good point never thought of it like that.
 

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uniquebaseballcards said:
This is why its impossible to gauge the value of 1/1s and rare cards using eBay. Even the seller has no idea what the card would sell for on ebay, but is guessing they might get lucky if a 'person A' existed - the seller is counting on a bidder that will offer far above what anyone else would pay.

By 'fielding offers' you're essentially doing the same thing that ebay auctions do automatically, except in ebay auctions the process is more transparent. But why would a bidder want to be in a position where he'd have to pay far more than the next closest bidder??

It comes down to the type of rare card that's being auctioned and where its being sold. Big auction houses (ie. NOT ebay) can promote items and potential bidders will know for weeks and months that a card is coming and can prepare their bank accounts if necessary. This works for cards whose prices are not volatile. On the other hand, you're not likely to see a Heyward Super in an auction house. Ebay is really quick and can better handle volatile, rare prospect cards whose values fluctuate daily.

nyc3 said:
chashawk said:
You could actually leave money on the table starting it at 0.99 cents as well. This was discussed yesterday.

In an auction format, no matter how much person A is willing to pay for the item, you are relying on person B
to be willing to pay almost as much to drive the price up. If person A is willing to pay $2,000, but person B is
only willing to pay $1,200, then you are only going to get approx. $1,250 for the card. However, if you list it
as a $3,000 BIN/BO, you can field offers and get close to the maximum of what someone is willing to spend.
Good point never thought of it like that.


Couldnt agree more. Thanks for the feedback.
 

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thanks j-rod. my friend is going to keep it for his pc for now.
 

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