18 HOBBY BOXES: player break draft ORDER @ 8 PM EST TONIGHT!

[klktbear]

Re: 18 VARIOUS HOBBY BOXES: player break draft style SOLD OUT!

PP addy so i can get mine paid tonight thanx

 

[markakis8]

Re: 18 VARIOUS HOBBY BOXES: player break draft style SOLD OUT!

EVERYONE has to pay to do the draft order. Only reason is that if I do it before and someone doesn't like their pick status, they can bail.

Just the way it has to be. :? I'll get pmt info tonight and I could see us doing the draft order within 2 days and the draft this weekend sometime!

Do you know when you are going to do the draft order because knowing when my 2 picks will be will make it a lot easier to do a priority list.

 

[markakis8]

Re: 18 VARIOUS HOBBY BOXES: player break draft style - 17 LEFT!!

I would like more opinions on this before I make this final. This seems to be the fairest way to handle multi player cards.

I may end up just taking a deck of cards, shuffle them, take two cards off the top, and whoever draws the highest card gets the HIT. All of this is live on camera of course. If there are four players, I would draw four cards. If two of the same card is pulled (i.e. Ace of spades and ace of hearts), suit ranking would come into play. From highest to lowest: Spades, Hearts, Clubs, Diamonds. So ace of spades would beat ace of hearts. The player on the top or left is the first card I draw, player on bottom or right is second card I draw, etc.

Does this make sense? What does everyone think?

Deciding the multi-player cards in this way makes sense. It still keeps the distribution random and still allow you to do the breaks quickly.
- Tony G.

Duly noted. Anybody else like to add their input on raffling off the extra hits and the 10 game used I am throwing in for free? Do we keep the winners our or throw them back in for the next draw? Remember you get one raffle for each slot you purchased.

Carl,
I think the fairest way for everyone is to put all 150 names/numbers in the hat. Once pulled you leave them out. Your way mentioned below creates the possibility that a person who bought one "share" could win multiple times on the unclaimed hits. It could also (more likely scenario) create an unfair advantage for those who bought more. While I understand your thought that people who bought more should have a better chance, they already do. If I bought 10 spots, I would have a 1 in 15 chance. If I buy one, I have a 1 in a 150 chance. If you keep putting the winner back in, those odds never change. But keep in mind the person with 10 still will have a better chance each time than the person with one (1 in 14.9 vs. 1 in 149, etc.). Also keep in mind everyone is paying approximately the same $ for a "share". Actually, if you bought more, your per share cost is less.

Just my 2 cents. I am game no matter what you or the group decides. Thanks for organizing this and it will be a fun break!

Wayne

 

[markakis8]

Re: 18 VARIOUS HOBBY BOXES: player break draft style SOLD OUT!

Ok, I got all payment info sent out. Check your PM's!

I'm pretty sure I got everybody, if you didn't get one from me or I made a mistake in the "invoice" just let me know!

 

[TonyGillen]

Re: 18 VARIOUS HOBBY BOXES: player break draft style - 17 LEFT!!

Duly noted. Anybody else like to add their input on raffling off the extra hits and the 10 game used I am throwing in for free? Do we keep the winners our or throw them back in for the next draw? Remember you get one raffle for each slot you purchased.

Carl,
I think the fairest way for everyone is to put all 150 names/numbers in the hat. Once pulled you leave them out. Your way mentioned below creates the possibility that a person who bought one "share" could win multiple times on the unclaimed hits. It could also (more likely scenario) create an unfair advantage for those who bought more. While I understand your thought that people who bought more should have a better chance, they already do. If I bought 10 spots, I would have a 1 in 15 chance. If I buy one, I have a 1 in a 150 chance. If you keep putting the winner back in, those odds never change. But keep in mind the person with 10 still will have a better chance each time than the person with one (1 in 14.9 vs. 1 in 149, etc.). Also keep in mind everyone is paying approximately the same $ for a "share". Actually, if you bought more, your per share cost is less.

Just my 2 cents. I am game no matter what you or the group decides. Thanks for organizing this and it will be a fun break!

Wayne

I would vote to remove the winner after their name is drawn. This will work best to spread out the unclaimed hits and those with more than one share will still have their remaining chances in the next draw.
- Tony G.

 

[bouwob]

Re: 18 VARIOUS HOBBY BOXES: player break draft style SOLD OUT!

Do you know when you are going to do the draft order because knowing when my 2 picks will be will make it a lot easier to do a priority list.

It shouldnt, my list has almost 50 names on it. Just make a big list and hope that they are not all picked by the time it gets to you.

Also, just to put a wrench in everything any chance we can draft unpicked teams? For instance if I picked undrafted rangers and hamilton, kinsler and ryan are selected I would get everything else that was not selected for that team. Would kill the raffle but maybe give some of the bigger name players to drop lower in the draft since choosing an unselected team would provide alot more cards and still distribute the non hit cards. Could also give the team collectors something to droll over.

 

[markakis8]

Re: 18 VARIOUS HOBBY BOXES: player break draft style SOLD OUT!

it's a decent idea but i will keep it the way it is for now just so everything is clear.

i think what may have enticed some buyers in the first place was the raffle. if they bought 1-2 slots and get what they consider a horrible draft pick, there is still the chance they could get hits from unclaimed players.

Do you know when you are going to do the draft order because knowing when my 2 picks will be will make it a lot easier to do a priority list.

It shouldnt, my list has almost 50 names on it. Just make a big list and hope that they are not all picked by the time it gets to you.

Also, just to put a wrench in everything any chance we can draft unpicked teams? For instance if I picked undrafted rangers and hamilton, kinsler and ryan are selected I would get everything else that was not selected for that team. Would kill the raffle but maybe give some of the bigger name players to drop lower in the draft since choosing an unselected team would provide alot more cards and still distribute the non hit cards. Could also give the team collectors something to droll over.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

Re: 18 HOBBY BOXES: player break draft PAYMENT INFO SENT 6/2!

Do you have any type of breakdown on what players have what in these boxes? If not I know I can just search beckett, but I'm assuming Hanley will be gone for my pick so I'm wondering if you put anything together to help rank the rest.

 

[markakis8]

Re: 18 HOBBY BOXES: player break draft PAYMENT INFO SENT 6/2!

man there are over 1,000 players total. it would take me forever to put a list together. That is why there are only 150 slots, so the list we draft doesnt get too weak (like your scot shields :lol: )

what i would suggest doing (and this is just my idea) is go to baseball-reference.com and go through each team from 2009 and take 3-8 players from each team that you wouldn't mind having.

you could easily pull off 125 names that would be worth a draft slot, then you could easily name 25 bankable HOF off the top of your head and BAM 150 names...

Do you have any type of breakdown on what players have what in these boxes? If not I know I can just search beckett, but I'm assuming Hanley will be gone for my pick so I'm wondering if you put anything together to help rank the rest.

 

[bouwob]

Re: 18 HOBBY BOXES: player break draft PAYMENT INFO SENT 6/2!

man there are over 1,000 players total. it would take me forever to put a list together. That is why there are only 150 slots, so the list we draft doesnt get too weak (like your scot shields :lol: )

what i would suggest doing (and this is just my idea) is go to baseball-reference.com and go through each team from 2009 and take 3-8 players from each team that you wouldn't mind having.

you could easily pull off 125 names that would be worth a draft slot, then you could easily name 25 bankable HOF off the top of your head and BAM 150 names...

Do you have any type of breakdown on what players have what in these boxes? If not I know I can just search beckett, but I'm assuming Hanley will be gone for my pick so I'm wondering if you put anything together to help rank the rest.

there are 1041 distinct players not including 2009 SP Legendary Cuts, since the checklist is not out.

 

[markakis8]

Re: 18 HOBBY BOXES: player break draft PAYMENT INFO SENT 6/2!

someone did their homework :lol:

man there are over 1,000 players total. it would take me forever to put a list together. That is why there are only 150 slots, so the list we draft doesnt get too weak (like your scot shields :lol: )

what i would suggest doing (and this is just my idea) is go to baseball-reference.com and go through each team from 2009 and take 3-8 players from each team that you wouldn't mind having.

you could easily pull off 125 names that would be worth a draft slot, then you could easily name 25 bankable HOF off the top of your head and BAM 150 names...

Do you have any type of breakdown on what players have what in these boxes? If not I know I can just search beckett, but I'm assuming Hanley will be gone for my pick so I'm wondering if you put anything together to help rank the rest.

there are 1041 distinct players not including 2009 SP Legendary Cuts, since the checklist is not out.

 

[IndyManning18]

Re: 18 HOBBY BOXES: player break draft PAYMENT INFO SENT 6/2!

I hope the draft will be on the weekend.

 

[thinjim]

Re: 18 HOBBY BOXES: player break draft PAYMENT INFO SENT 6/2!

I hope the draft will be on the weekend.

Ya me too. Can't wait.

 

[Therion]

Re: 18 HOBBY BOXES: player break draft PAYMENT INFO SENT 6/2!

Hopefully I can make the draft. This should be fun!

 

[klktbear]

Re: 18 HOBBY BOXES: player break draft PAYMENT INFO SENT 6/2!

preferab;y Fri night or Sun sometime Hopefull Sat night will not happen as i have a huge date and am not missing that guys !!!!!

 

[markakis8]

Re: 18 HOBBY BOXES: player break draft PAYMENT INFO SENT 6/2!

I'm leaning towards Sunday night guys unless there are tons of objections. This will give ample time to do some trading once the draft order is set and more time for the boxes to arrive.

 

[Therion]

Re: 18 HOBBY BOXES: player break draft PAYMENT INFO SENT 6/2!

preferab;y Fri night or Sun sometime Hopefull Sat night will not happen as i have a huge date and am not missing that guys !!!!!

How huge is she? :lol:

 

[plainwhitejerseys]

Re: 18 VARIOUS HOBBY BOXES: player break draft style SOLD OUT!

Do you know when you are going to do the draft order because knowing when my 2 picks will be will make it a lot easier to do a priority list.

It shouldnt, my list has almost 50 names on it. Just make a big list and hope that they are not all picked by the time it gets to you.

I think what he's saying is that it's a lot easier to do a 20-player list than a 150-player list. It's all for fun and all that, but I'd rather not spend the hour or so to make a 150-player list only to find out I'm picking 10th.

In my particular case, I imagine I will be picking 148th, 149th and 150th with winners such as Brian Giles, Aaron Boone and Alejandro De Aza as the BPAs.

 

[thinjim]

Re: 18 HOBBY BOXES: player break draft PAYMENT INFO SENT 6/2!

I'm leaning towards Sunday night guys unless there are tons of objections. This will give ample time to do some trading once the draft order is set and more time for the boxes to arrive.

I'm good with Sunday. Where are you getting the boxes from.

 

[Jesusmontero]

Re: 18 HOBBY BOXES: player break draft PAYMENT INFO SENT 6/2!

sunday is good for me to