1975 Topps George Brett PSA 10 - How high does this go??

[smapdi]

BGS is a 20-point scale, PSA is currently about an 18-point scale (there is no 0.5 or 9.5, I think), and they only started doing half-points a few years ago. Plus, BGS raised the bar with their 10s being very difficult to score when they started up, generally viewed as indisputably mint cards. PSA standards were somewhat more broad, as indicated by the grade descriptions.

 

[cbrandtw]

Yeah I agree I think it's a fantastic card as well.


I think the people that are having issues with it are not used to dealing with cards from this era

Perfect

 

[George_Calfas]

BGS is a 20-point scale, PSA is currently about an 18-point scale (there is no 0.5 or 9.5, I think), and they only started doing half-points a few years ago. Plus, BGS raised the bar with their 10s being very difficult to score when they started up, generally viewed as indisputably mint cards. PSA standards were somewhat more broad, as indicated by the grade descriptions.

SGC 100 set the bar for Pristine cards and pre-date BGS. For the first several years there were less than 20 SGC100s in circulation.

 

[George_Calfas]

Do you feel the centering on the back is up to par with a 10 ? Forgetting what PSA says with the 75/25 , I'm just curious on your opinion. If you wanted a PSA 10 1975 George Brett , would this be an example you would be good with , esp when laying out 12k? Would you buy the grade or the card?

Just curious as to what you think

Ryan

Ryan
Based upon the 1975 design I would suggest that the back is w/i tolerance for PSA 10 grading criteria and IMHO I believe that this is a solid grade.

I am trying to get a scan of one of the 10s from a fellow collector. He said
The edges are much more smooth, and believes it sold low since it is likely modern sheet cut and not 1975 pack inserted.

 

[MansGame]

Regardless of the fuzzy side, that back is so freaking obviously off center it's sad. I don't know how that scores a 10 but whatever. Don't care much. Just think it's funny.


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[BiggioBrooks755]

Regardless of the fuzzy side, that back is so freaking obviously off center it's sad. I don't know how that scores a 10 but whatever. Don't care much. Just think it's funny.


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This

 

[RedSoxSoul]

I have always thought some of PSA's biggest customers had the convenience of lenient grading (to put it nicely). PWCC happens to be one of PSA's largest customers. I have a feeling if a 'regular' collector like myself submitted this card it would not come back a 10. Just my opinion. A few customers that I believe get special treatment: PWCC, 4_sharp_corners, probstein123

How does the saying go? Pay for the card not the flip. It's still obviously a beautiful card with near perfect centering on the front.

Being a Frank collector, this card comes to mind: POP 1

Completely agree with this.


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[alwayson22]

$15K with over 4 days left. Wow!

 

[SINFULONE]

I have always thought some of PSA's biggest customers had the convenience of lenient grading (to put it nicely). PWCC happens to be one of PSA's largest customers. I have a feeling if a 'regular' collector like myself submitted this card it would not come back a 10. Just my opinion. A few customers that I believe get special treatment: PWCC, 4_sharp_corners, probstein123

How does the saying go? Pay for the card not the flip. It's still obviously a beautiful card with near perfect centering on the front.

Being a Frank collector, this card comes to mind: POP 1

1)I don't know who probstein123 is, but I have bought cards from them before.
2)That is interesting PSA put Young's name on the label, don't see that very often.
3)Obvious print errors on the back of the Thomas, interesting it still got a 10 with so many of them on the back.

 

[SINFULONE]

Regardless of the fuzzy side, that back is so freaking obviously off center it's sad. I don't know how that scores a 10 but whatever. Don't care much. Just think it's funny.


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I'm with you on that one too.The fuzzy edge alone would drive me nuts, I don't care how "common" they were from that era.Not my scratch, so more power to them though.

 

[Gonzaleznut]

Ends tonight!! Currently at $17,525!! Crazy!!

 

[MansGame]

My snipes a little higher, hope I win it!


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[RStadlerASU22]

My snipes a little higher, hope I win it!


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Good luck , I won't be outbid

Ryan

 

[Pinbreaker]

So it cracked the $20K mark.. Wow...

 

[matfanofold]

That's one hell of a sale!

 

[MansGame]

I knew I shouldn't of bid an even $20,000... Damn


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[ballerskrip]

Let me start by saying I haven't collected this set, and don't do much with vintage cards (I realize many wouldn't consider this vintage).

But why in the world is this a Psa 10? 80/20 to 85/15 back centering

Fraying of the left edges horribly.....

I am confused, as I don't see a Psa 10 card here, let alone a $20,000 card.

But, as stated I could just be in the dark here

 

[George_Calfas]

Let me start by saying I haven't collected this set, and don't do much with vintage cards (I realize many wouldn't consider this vintage).

But why in the world is this a Psa 10? 80/20 to 85/15 back centering

Fraying of the left edges horribly.....

I am confused, as I don't see a Psa 10 card here, let alone a $20,000 card.

But, as stated I could just be in the dark here

The back is better than your guess, this set has narrow back edges.

Fuzzy edges are due to method of cutting and smooth edges are assumed trimmed or modern cut from sheet.

By looks of the collectors bidding the big dog agree with the grade and it is not just a nice flip.

Not aimed at you, but the modern and chrome collector seldom know the complete details to condition sensitive older sets.

 

[ballerskrip]

The back is better than your guess, this set has narrow back edges.

Fuzzy edges are due to method of cutting and smooth edges are assumed trimmed or modern cut from sheet.

By looks of the collectors bidding the big dog agree with the grade and it is not just a nice flip.

Not aimed at you, but the modern and chrome collector seldom know the complete details to condition sensitive older sets.

Exactly why I was asking

It is interesting, because even with modern sets, there are very condition sensitive cards. For about 4 years, Elite die cut autos were damn near impossible to get a gem, and the set being condition sensitive wasn't an excuse. Your card had the be as "gem" as every other gem. Not, "close enough" to gem because it is a condition sensitive set. I guess that is where I get a bit confused. Same goes for autographs. If this is the case for the brett rookie, why would a guys "bad" autographs make it through as gem, if they are all bad. Jonathan singleton chrome autographs for example. Every single one is streaky and trashed, so are they all gems?

 

[George_Calfas]

Exactly why I was asking

It is interesting, because even with modern sets, there are very condition sensitive cards. For about 4 years, Elite die cut autos were damn near impossible to get a gem, and the set being condition sensitive wasn't an excuse. Your card had the be as "gem" as every other gem. Not, "close enough" to gem because it is a condition sensitive set. I guess that is where I get a bit confused. Same goes for autographs. If this is the case for the brett rookie, why would a guys "bad" autographs make it through as gem, if they are all bad. Jonathan singleton chrome autographs for example. Every single one is streaky and trashed, so are they all gems?

Difference in perspective regarding modern cutting technologies. I also don't think you can compare auto grade and card grade since the auto is a post production addition even though the surface may have made BGS10 auto grades near impossible.

PSA has graded ~7000 Brett RC and 9 are PSA10. By the percentages a Brett 10 is much like those Elite cards if not harder.