1993 Stadium Club Executive edge gold??

[gracecollector]

Anyone buying his 1999 Tek Gold Proofs too, at $100 or more a pop?

I'm not afraid to buy one of these "executive" set cards, but no way at $100. Try like $5-$10.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Nothing wrong with that, makes the hobby that more interesting.

In the last couple of years, between 90 donruss color proofs, aqueous, mike witt black boxes, yard sale find of ud buyback logo cards & this, its pretty cool

Sure, in some ways I can see why it would be cool... but its definitely not cool if, say, you spend $500 on an aqueous proof today - only to find later there's a cache of thousands of your same card tomorrow - or of a similar 'aqueous proof'.

Or say the same thing with superfractors.

Cases like this make the hobby prone to even more abuse by people looking to make a buck. This is why its important for card manufacturers to do what they say they're going to do.

 

[MansGame]

Anyone buying his 1999 Tek Gold Proofs too, at $100 or more a pop?

I'm not afraid to buy one of these "executive" set cards, but no way at $100. Try like $5-$10.

Passing on the golds as well. Very cool item but I honestly am staying away from all these proofs and Topps valut items on eBay. I purchased a valut item on eBay last year and it was TERRIBLE. I can literally photo copy what they sent and resell 1000s of copies of it... that's how bad of quality it was.

 

[George_Calfas]

Honestly, the sellers uncut items, the ones on card stock, are really interesting and I have purchased several.

 

[MansGame]

Honestly, the sellers uncut items, the ones on card stock, are really interesting and I have purchased several.

Do you find it interesting that an "Executive" at a card company could have SO many items like this? Is it equivalent to working at Red Bull or something and just stockpiling promo items, samples, etc.? I mean at some level you almost think it's damn near illegal for a company employee to take so many odd ball items, to eventually turn-around and sell for a profit. I don't know, it's just the investor relations side of me coming out I guess.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Do you find it interesting that an "Executive" at a card company could have SO many items like this? Is it equivalent to working at Red Bull or something and just stockpiling promo items, samples, etc.? I mean at some level you almost think it's damn near illegal for a company employee to take so many odd ball items, to eventually turn-around and sell for a profit. I don't know, it's just the investor relations side of me coming out I guess.

I'd add that its the same as the manufacturer re-starting the printing presses years later. What if UD started re-printing 1989 Upper Deck again this month? Or Topps started re-printing 1952 Topps tomorrow?

 

[MansGame]

I'd add that its the same as the manufacturer re-starting the printing presses years later. What if UD started re-printing 1989 Upper Deck again this month? Or Topps started re-printing 1952 Topps tomorrow?

True. What's stopping them? What if UD did a 1989 UD with gold boarder!

 

[ronfromfresno]

True. What's stopping them? What if UD did a 1989 UD with gold boarder!

Or with a "20th Anniversary" stamp.

 

[Mozzie22]

I'd add that its the same as the manufacturer re-starting the printing presses years later. What if UD started re-printing 1989 Upper Deck again this month? Or Topps started re-printing 1952 Topps tomorrow?

I may be alone here but I don't see how this is anything like that situation. If we believe this story this gentleman wasn't just some employee, he was the Director of Production and Quality Control. Most likely it was his job to produce test cards of some sort. It stands to reason that in nearly 40 years at Topps he would have picked up a few things. For all we know he brought home these test issues for his kids or for his personal collection. Maybe these gold "executive sets" were gifts to employees. This would explain why nobody has ever seen them. I seriously doubt he did it in the hope he could someday make money off of it. I don't know this seller other than the one time I bought from him, but I always hope these new discoveries are real because it keeps long time player collectors on their toes and gives us hope that new cards will make their way to the light and into our collections.

 

[MansGame]

I may be alone here but I don't see how this is anything like that situation. If we believe this story this gentleman wasn't just some employee, he was the Director of Production and Quality Control. Most likely it was his job to produce test cards of some sort. It stands to reason that in nearly 40 years at Topps he would have picked up a few things. For all we know he brought home these test issues for his kids or for his personal collection. Maybe these gold "executive sets" were gifts to employees. This would explain why nobody has ever seen them. I seriously doubt he did it in the hope he could someday make money off of it. I don't know this seller other than the one time I bought from him, but I always hope these new discoveries are real because it keeps long time player collectors on their toes and gives us hope that new cards will make their way to the light and into our collections.

If employees or exec's are giving "gifts", then that is clearly different and IMO are able to sell or do whatever they please with them. If these are simply taken off the job or press or things he came across from being a privileged employee, that is where things get a little fuzzy. I am not sure what some corporate policy say but I can tell you that I can't take anything from my work and then turn around and sell it on eBay or some other site/place for profit. To my earlier example, if you work at Red Bull, I'm sure you could get your hands on piles and piles of stuff ALL the time. That doesn't mean that it's an arms race for who can just take the most stuff home and log onto eBay the fastest to sell for tax-free money lol

Not to take the thread in a different direction but I thought I'd clarify my comment about it being weird. I don't think it is if it is a gift from the company.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

I'd add that its the same as the manufacturer re-starting the printing presses years later. What if UD started re-printing 1989 Upper Deck again this month? Or Topps started re-printing 1952 Topps tomorrow?

For clarity, do you actually think that Upper Deck has finally stopped printing 1989 Baseball and 2001 Golf?

It's plausible that Tricky Dick was buried with those plates and electronic files.

 

[gracecollector]

If employees or exec's are giving "gifts", then that is clearly different and IMO are able to sell or do whatever they please with them. If these are simply taken off the job or press or things he came across from being a privileged employee, that is where things get a little fuzzy. I am not sure what some corporate policy say but I can tell you that I can't take anything from my work and then turn around and sell it on eBay or some other site/place for profit. To my earlier example, if you work at Red Bull, I'm sure you could get your hands on piles and piles of stuff ALL the time. That doesn't mean that it's an arms race for who can just take the most stuff home and log onto eBay the fastest to sell for tax-free money lol

Not to take the thread in a different direction but I thought I'd clarify my comment about it being weird. I don't think it is if it is a gift from the company.

Well, we clearly saw with 2001 Topps Employee Embossed Sets that they were quick to hit the secondary market. I could see these as being a test run of some kind, probably not a set given out to all the brass, or at least one or two sets would have leaked out before this.

 

[RStadlerASU22]

I personally don't care about the origin as much as if they are real. Test / scraps / proofs etc aren't in packs etc so because they go out the door a different way doesn't hurt. If the person who has that said card alters / stamps / etc to pass it off as something that came from a pack is different. But there is nothing wrong IMO from some obtaining / selling this stuff. As to legalities that's for Topps or UD or whatever to take care of if they felt they were "stolen". But is seller puts items out there, market will show interest etc. Again as long if no altering etc is done to the item to pass it off as something it never was then no harm. Buy if you like, pass if you don't. I'd like the Clark at $20 or so, not $100 win some / lose some.

Ryan

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

For clarity, do you actually think that Upper Deck has finally stopped printing 1989 Baseball and 2001 Golf?

It's plausible that Tricky Dick was buried with those plates and electronic files.

and also those YuGiOh cards LOL.

Its just that the hobby should get nervous when new sets and cards conveniently show up like this. We generally trust manufacturers to turn off the presses and not create things unexpectedly, but perhaps our trust is misplaced.

 

[RStadlerASU22]

and also those YuGiOh cards LOL.

Its just that the hobby should get nervous when new sets and cards conveniently show up like this. We generally trust manufacturers to turn off the presses and not create things unexpectedly, but perhaps our trust is misplaced.

I just don't see a motive for the company with this stuff as the they aren't the seller. They aren't cranking the presses for 93 Stadium they did on those other releases as they benefitted from the sale of the wax. Could there be a motive by someone yes, but I don't think it was the company or this seller. They could be 100% legit also.

Ryan

 

[Hullfan]

The seller sent me a message through ebay that I figured I would share as well. Looks like a couple numbers could be different from the regular set. Could this be some sort of test set? Who knows.

"Also, I've noticed a couple number discrepancies, if that helps add to the validity of it being a unique set. One of my Frank Thomas buyers was asking about card #26 in the set, that should be Frank Thomas, but the set I have, it's someone else. Also, one of the card #s that is Biggio in the regular set is actually Palmeiro in this set. There's probably more, but those are the only two I've noticed since a couple of my regular buyers asked specifically about them and the #s don't match up. Also, if you care to share any of this info on the thread, feel free. If you notice, I had about 680 of the 750 cards listed. That is because a lot were stuck together, and couldn't be salvaged. If I was going to fake it, I would have gotten a good set to do it, right? I didn't have Nolan Ryan listed because there are specks of white on his card. Bo Jackson, too. I didn't include pics of each one because it would take forever to scan 700 cards in, and the pics are identical to the regular versions."

 

[Gwynn545]

Honestly, the sellers uncut items, the ones on card stock, are really interesting and I have purchased several.

Me too. I wish they were cheaper, but I get what I can. If someone pays more than me, more power to them.

 

[henderson939]

I have dealt with Alexis many times and was always happy with my purchases. I missed on the Rickey with a $100 offer, but now I am starting to wonder if I should have upped my offer and grabbed it.

 

[Hendersonfan]

Is this the same seller with the 98 Hallbound uncuts? It looks like 3 versions: regular Topps, Topps Chrome and Topps Chrome Refractor.

Sent from my DROID X2 using Freedom Card Board mobile app

 

[George_Calfas]

Is this the same seller with the 98 Hallbound uncuts? It looks like 3 versions: regular Topps, Topps Chrome and Topps Chrome Refractor.

Sent from my DROID X2 using Freedom Card Board mobile app

Yes