2003 Finest "Plate Proofs"?

[olerud363]

Came across this item on ebay and was wondering if anyone knows anything about these "plate proofs". I've never heard of them before. I've emailed the seller to see if he/she has more info, but I thought I'd also call on the collective knowledge of FCB.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2003-FINEST-JOHN-OL ... 5d2bd24bd9

Thanks!

- R.

 

[Krom]

There was a similar thread to this about "plate proofs" looks like the others where it is just a chrome card that is soaked in hot wayer and the back is peeled off. Junk.

 

[VizquelCollector.com]

I'm pretty sure everyone agrees these are fake and this guy is a nob.

 

[olerud363]

Thanks for the quick replys. I should have looked more thoroughly through old posts as now that you mention it I do recall something about home-made "proofs" produced by soaking cards in various solutions.

Will definitely avoid that auction!

- R.

 

[Rickzcards]

The seller is a well known seller of fake "proof" cards. I would stay away from anything he sells.

 

[mancini79]

There was a similar thread to this about "plate proofs" looks like the others where it is just a chrome card that is soaked in hot wayer and the back is peeled off. Junk.

Then he photoshops the card to make it look like a negative. In hand, the card looks silver with a faint outline of the picture.

 

[UpTheAlley]

so, let me see if I understand this.
this particular seller can sell $2,585.53 worth of modified without disclosure cards to 149 people this month
and nothing can be done about it?
:lol: and who worries about 5 star shipping again?

 

[allstars]

so, let me see if I understand this.
this particular seller can sell $2,585.53 worth of modified without disclosure cards to 149 people this month
and nothing can be done about it?
:lol: and who worries about 5 star shipping again?

Who's gonna do something about it? One of the guys that got taken for $6? ::facepalm::

 

[allstars]

so, let me see if I understand this.
this particular seller can sell $2,585.53 worth of modified without disclosure cards to 149 people this month
and nothing can be done about it?
:lol: and who worries about 5 star shipping again?

Who's gonna do something about it? One of the guys that got taken for $6? ::facepalm::

Wow, didn't realize how gullible some people are - $129 for one of these things? Thats unreal...

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Wait, aren't these proofs considered "art"? ::facepalm::

 

[MartinFFcollector]

ljbiggestfan2 has been scamming people with these for a long time. I asked him for a sheet pic as he claims he gets sheets of these and cuts them. Sent a far away pic of 9 or so cut cards that were side by side. I used to report these to ebay, about 50 (ebay never pulled one) of them and when you could see ebay names, I would inform winners. Some rec'd a refund, 10 or so, that I'm aware. A drop in the bucket though. Winners can still be contacted (thru fb rec'd or left) but I feel it's impossible to stop him and very time consuming informing winners as I used to max out on ebay messages allowed daily. Also worried I would get kicked off ebay for auction interfearance or something eventually.

 

[Sean_C]

If you are up for a new track, the slimebag is claiming to be an eBay Power Seller even though he is not. That might get eBay's attention a bit more than hundreds of their customers getting screwed. Sad, eh?

ljbiggestfan2 has been scamming people with these for a long time. I asked him for a sheet pic as he claims he gets sheets of these and cuts them. Sent a far away pic of 9 or so cut cards that were side by side. I used to report these to ebay, about 50 (ebay never pulled one) of them and when you could see ebay names, I would inform winners. Some rec'd a refund, 10 or so, that I'm aware. A drop in the bucket though. Winners can still be contacted (thru fb rec'd or left) but I feel it's impossible to stop him and very time consuming informing winners as I used to max out on ebay messages allowed daily. Also worried I would get kicked off ebay for auction interfearance or something eventually.

 

[mancini79]

I think it's his wording that avoids ebay from pulling them:
"These are similar to a printing plate, but are considered proofs"
He uses the word "similar" to skirt the printing plate issue. But it's a flat out lie that they are considered proofs.

 

[olerud363]

In case anyone is interested, here's the seller's reply to my question asking for more info about the card:

Dear olerud363,

Thanks for your interest. I actually picked up several full sets of these proofs from a former Topps design engineer that I know. There are different version of these plate proofs, but I only have this color/varation of this one. I do have other Olerud ones, but not sure if I want to break up the full sets yet. I've had several people ask me to, so if the price is right I would do it.

These were used in the pre-production prototype stages when they were being designed. These were never issued into packs or to the public until now. I hope this helps.

Patrick


- ljbiggestfan2

I almost want to reply to him and call him out. I'd love to refer him to this thread and see what he says...
Better just move on and not waste my time.

Thanks everyone!

- R.

 

[dietdew]

I have won one of these proofs. The front is exactly the same as a "normal" card; the seller scans the back.

 

[VizquelCollector.com]

Dear olerud363,

Thanks for your interest. I actually picked up several full sets of these proofs from a former Topps design engineer that I know. There are different version of these plate proofs, but I only have this color/varation of this one. I do have other Olerud ones, but not sure if I want to break up the full sets yet. I've had several people ask me to, so if the price is right I would do it.

These were used in the pre-production prototype stages when they were being designed. These were never issued into packs or to the public until now. I hope this helps.

Patrick


- ljbiggestfan2

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUULSH...................

 

[UpTheAlley]

In case anyone is interested, here's the seller's reply to my question asking for more info about the card:

Dear olerud363,

Thanks for your interest. I actually picked up several full sets of these proofs from a former Topps design engineer that I know. There are different version of these plate proofs, but I only have this color/varation of this one. I do have other Olerud ones, but not sure if I want to break up the full sets yet. I've had several people ask me to, so if the price is right I would do it.

These were used in the pre-production prototype stages when they were being designed. These were never issued into packs or to the public until now. I hope this helps.

Patrick


- ljbiggestfan2

I almost want to reply to him and call him out. I'd love to refer him to this thread and see what he says...
Better just move on and not waste my time.

Thanks everyone!

- R.

yea, from the sounds of it, looks like his "proof" business will be effectuated either way.

 

[MartinFFcollector]

Here's a pic of the ones I quickly made awhile back.

ljbiggestfan2 made it in print!

 

[UpTheAlley]

Here's a pic of the ones I quickly made awhile back.

ljbiggestfan2 made it in print!

good info, haven't seen that one before!