2009 Bowman Sterling product information in

[Bob Loblaw]

why are stickers a "given"? they werent used in 2004

Yes they were. Clear ones.

i could have sworn this was on card:

True. Guess they used both clear stickers and on-card autos.

You don't remember? For the jersey/aus, they used stickers. For the plain aus, they were on card.

 

[All The Hype]

I generally try to avoid being negative about Bowman stuff when preliminary info is released because often times certain guys emerge and stuff like that which improves the checklist. But this will be the exception.

Simply put, the checklist sucks. If a player has a Bowman Chrome auto from any of the other three Bowman products this year, I just don't understand the logic behind including them in Sterling, where the cards will not hold value for the simply reason that the Chrome autos are better. The ONLY reason Topps would do this is because it's the easiest thing for them to do. It's pure laziness, and it's disappointing to see.

I'm not expecting them to sign every single top 10 draft pick to an auto contract (although, that would be like a dream come true), but (like JP has said) there are SO many other guys out there that are legit prospects that have zero cards. Why not go after some of those guys if Topps doesn't want to spend a ton of money getting the top Draft Picks?

The design looks pretty good to me, but I just don't understand how the same guys continue to be on the checklist. Even if guys do emerge, as I stated above, it still won't make this a better product because they all already have the more desirable Chrome cards.

 

[ryanhoward06]

Pretty bland checklist. I don't see any player that should be over 20.


I would still really like to see Trevor May, Casey Crosby, and some other non 2009 draftees in sets before next year.

 

[011873]

A few things:

1. At the 2008 Hawaii Trade Conference, Topps told us 2009 BS would be on card autos.

2. BS should ALWAYS have EXCLUSIVE AUTOS because we all know that BC beats BS in sale price.

3. Nice to see a TWENTY FIFTH YEAR Brad Nelson card instead of a TRUE RC of Alfredo Aceves who is 11-1 with the Yanks and has ZERO high end cards (heck he has only 3 rookies). Also where is Francisco Cervelli? Another TRUE RC not included eventhough he has spent a large portion of the year with the big team.

 

[Prospectmaster]

How is Bowman Draft and Sterling so bad if Razor isn't going to be doing exclusives this year with draft picks. I mean shouldn't Bowman easily have cards of Dustin Ackley and Donovan Tate. Also I wanna see some Mychal Givens and some Kentrail Davis cards. Really makes me angry that Bowman can't do a better job putting out a huge product. I mean there are so many players bowman can go after.

 

[mredsox89]

How is Bowman Draft and Sterling so bad if Razor isn't going to be doing exclusives this year with draft picks. I mean shouldn't Bowman easily have cards of Dustin Ackley and Donovan Tate. Also I wanna see some Mychal Givens and some Kentrail Davis cards. Really makes me angry that Bowman can't do a better job putting out a huge product. I mean there are so many players bowman can go after.

We really have to wait and see what product(s) Upper Deck and Panini put out that revolve around prospects. They could have signed these guys to exclusives and that is why they are not in any Topps products.

 

[markakis8]

how is this any different from 2006 2007 and 2008 having Evan Longoria autos? They have been rehashing autos for years...

It's official. The Bowman line is DEAD.

What kind of crap is this? It's turning into an upper deck future stars product.

Rehashed Beckham "rookie" that's a second year card?

Another second year dual beckham/posey dual.

CRAP player selection.

This is the final demise of something that was once beautiful.

It was fun while it lasted, Bowman.

 

[koal]

i'm sure we can expect use of the same photos again and for those cards without autos, i am sure they will have an auto in 2010. same ole crap, different year.

 

[carlitoson]

...Also where is Francisco Cervelli? Another TRUE RC not included eventhough he has spent a large portion of the year with the big team.

Cervelli is in there; you must've overlooked him.

Anyway, if this checklist holds up it's an incredibly poor effort on Topps' part. As previously stated, nobody wants to see the same players re-hashed time after time when there are other players available who: 1. are deserving, and 2. don't have any Topps/Bowman Chrome cards yet. A product released this late in the year should be able to include some rookies who have debuted in 2009, as well as other good players who need cards. There's no good excuse for not having them. Topps somehow managed to do it with Topps '52 Rookies, they could do it with Bowman Sterling if they wanted to.

Who is going to waste their time and money breaking this stuff? I just don't see any value in it. I don't think folks will be salivating over the WBC jersey blue refractors! At least not at the normal Sterling price point. At least in the past, Topps managed to hold interest by having some of the prospects with base cards in Chrome get autographs in Sterling. They're not even doing that now (Dan Hudson is the only one)!

My quick look:
- 60 rookies...just 6 of them are true first-year cards! Of those 6 players, only two will not have more desirable chrome cards available. (your chances of pulling one of them...3%).
- 49 first-year base prospects...all 49 will have more desirable chrome cards available (and what's with the infatuation with Silverio anyway?). (0%).
- 26 first-year prospect autos...22 will have chrome autos available. (14%).

The bottom line is...if I wanted nice cards of the players on this checklist, I'd buy Bowman Chrome and Bowman Draft. Come on Topps, give us a different/better selection of players in Bowman Sterling!

 

[Penno]

Another Tommy auto to go after in the off season, great....

 

[brouthercard]

how is this any different from 2006 2007 and 2008 having Evan Longoria autos? They have been rehashing autos for years...

It's official. The Bowman line is DEAD.

What kind of crap is this? It's turning into an upper deck future stars product.

Rehashed Beckham "rookie" that's a second year card?

Another second year dual beckham/posey dual.

CRAP player selection.

This is the final demise of something that was once beautiful.

It was fun while it lasted, Bowman.

That's my complaint, I wish they wouldn't have had another Longoria in 2007, then again in 2008. The bowman line has been dying since 2007, and now we can finally put it out of it's misery. Chaz Roe, Cesar Ramos, Brandon Wood, etc. etc. they've done it time and time again since 2006 and on. I really the pinnacle year was 2005, and it's been a slow demise since then. The pulse in now gone...Like I said, this is turning into an upper deck future stars product.....

 

[cgilmo]

what if they added Kentrail Davis and Mychal Givens as autographs? Would that change any opinions?

 

[Jaypers]

what if they added Kentrail Davis and Mychal Givens as autographs? Would that change any opinions?

An actual Boras client? I'd like to see that.

Both would be medium-sized boons to the product.

 

[brouthercard]

how is this any different from 2006 2007 and 2008 having Evan Longoria autos? They have been rehashing autos for years...

It's official. The Bowman line is DEAD.

What kind of crap is this? It's turning into an upper deck future stars product.

Rehashed Beckham "rookie" that's a second year card?

Another second year dual beckham/posey dual.

CRAP player selection.

This is the final demise of something that was once beautiful.

It was fun while it lasted, Bowman.

That's my complaint, I wish they wouldn't have had another Longoria in 2007, then again in 2008. The bowman line has been dying since 2007, and now we can finally put it out of it's misery. Chaz Roe, Cesar Ramos, Brandon Wood, etc. etc. they've done it time and time again since 2006 and on. I really feel the pinnacle year was 2005, and it's been a slow demise since then. The pulse in now gone...Like I said, this is turning into an upper deck future stars product.....

 

[koal]

juan duran
yorman rodriguez
and here's a crazy idea.......drew stubbs!!

 

[ryanhoward06]

what if they added Kentrail Davis and Mychal Givens as autographs? Would that change any opinions?

Not for me. I'm not a huge fan of either.

 

[Prospectmaster]

How is Bowman Draft and Sterling so bad if Razor isn't going to be doing exclusives this year with draft picks. I mean shouldn't Bowman easily have cards of Dustin Ackley and Donovan Tate. Also I wanna see some Mychal Givens and some Kentrail Davis cards. Really makes me angry that Bowman can't do a better job putting out a huge product. I mean there are so many players bowman can go after.

We really have to wait and see what product(s) Upper Deck and Panini put out that revolve around prospects. They could have signed these guys to exclusives and that is why they are not in any Topps products.

So wait is Panini gonna do sort of like another Donruss Elite Extra this year? I am a little confused because I thought both Donruss and Panini was done producting baseball cards. As far as Upper Deck goes what is there plans as far as prospect stuff goes? I keep hearing from people saying we are gonna have to wait and see what Panini or Upper Deck does but how do we even know they are gonna bring out a product like bowman or even if panini will even do a baseball set?

 

[masonphillip]

what if they added Kentrail Davis and Mychal Givens as autographs? Would that change any opinions?

An actual Boras client? I'd like to see that.

Both would be medium-sized boons to the product.

Although both are nice prospects, neither are huge names but at least it would represent a prospect(s) unique to the product.

 

[mredsox89]

How is Bowman Draft and Sterling so bad if Razor isn't going to be doing exclusives this year with draft picks. I mean shouldn't Bowman easily have cards of Dustin Ackley and Donovan Tate. Also I wanna see some Mychal Givens and some Kentrail Davis cards. Really makes me angry that Bowman can't do a better job putting out a huge product. I mean there are so many players bowman can go after.

We really have to wait and see what product(s) Upper Deck and Panini put out that revolve around prospects. They could have signed these guys to exclusives and that is why they are not in any Topps products.

So wait is Panini gonna do sort of like another Donruss Elite Extra this year? I am a little confused because I thought both Donruss and Panini was done producting baseball cards. As far as Upper Deck goes what is there plans as far as prospect stuff goes? I keep hearing from people saying we are gonna have to wait and see what Panini or Upper Deck does but how do we even know they are gonna bring out a product like bowman or even if panini will even do a baseball set?

At the National Panini did indeed say they were coming out with EEE.

 

[i43770]

How is Bowman Draft and Sterling so bad if Razor isn't going to be doing exclusives this year with draft picks. I mean shouldn't Bowman easily have cards of Dustin Ackley and Donovan Tate. Also I wanna see some Mychal Givens and some Kentrail Davis cards. Really makes me angry that Bowman can't do a better job putting out a huge product. I mean there are so many players bowman can go after.

We really have to wait and see what product(s) Upper Deck and Panini put out that revolve around prospects. They could have signed these guys to exclusives and that is why they are not in any Topps products.

So wait is Panini gonna do sort of like another Donruss Elite Extra this year? I am a little confused because I thought both Donruss and Panini was done producting baseball cards. As far as Upper Deck goes what is there plans as far as prospect stuff goes? I keep hearing from people saying we are gonna have to wait and see what Panini or Upper Deck does but how do we even know they are gonna bring out a product like bowman or even if panini will even do a baseball set?

At the National Panini did indeed say they were coming out with EEE.

I wonder if that was based on them getting the collegiate contract. That was always their big draw, besides the names, but the college crowd. I know that Mitch Canham's Elite cards sell for more than his Sterling or Chrome ones do at shows around here.