2010 Bowman Chrome Minor League Set...would you?

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Ok, after assuming this since Topps was given the exclusive MLB license, let's assume Topps also acquires the exclusive MiLB license.

So let's fast-forward to 2010, would you break a 2010 Bowman Chrome Minor League product? Same types of parallels, autographs, etc...just all MiLB players in their MiLB uniforms. Basically a high-quality MiLB card - something we have never seen.

Just curious to hear what all sides may say....from the prospectors to the non-prospectors.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Yes, I've always been a proponent of BC (only) having an MiLB license.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

The Upper Deck Minor league SP products were certainly professionally done. I believe the 2000 was one of, if not the last, with the gold foil borders.

It wasn't chrome, but it was better than Just or Razor garbage.

 

[Jaypers]

It would still sell, and that's all that matters in their eyes.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

The Upper Deck Minor league SP products were certainly professionally done. I believe the 2000 was one of, if not the last, with the gold foil borders.

It wasn't chrome, but it was better than Just or Razor garbage.

That is true, however the market is a lot different now. Far more people consider themselves "prospectors" and have not seen a truly high quality MiLB product.

I think for those of us who remember those sets may have a different view than those that do not remember them. One thing is certain, the Rickey Williams SP Top Prospects card was huge for a while.

It would still sell, and that's all that matters in their eyes.

I guess that is my question, would it sell well? Personally, I would buy a chrome MiLB licensed product...but I'm just curious if others (including yourself) would.

 

[Halonut]

i've been a supporter of this for a long time, especially since the rc logo went into effect. minor league issues produced by large companies always had a stong following and this wouldn't be any different in my eyes. here is what i would do in order to make therc logo legit.

#1-bring back the xrc designation

#2-allow all companies to create a draft pick product and designate them as xrc's

here is what i would do with the chrome brand...

#1-Bowman Chrome, release in may. include only players who started the season on the 25 man roster. Autos would consist of Rookies who broke camp with the big league club and Free agents who changed teams over the winter

#2-Bowman Chrome Upd, release in october. include rc's of september call ups and rookies which debut after the initial chrome release. Autos would be of vets who changed places at the deadline and futures game prospects. prospectors wouldn't be too fond of this but whenever a player changes clubs, collectors are clamoring for their first auto which pictures them with their new team.


#3-Bowman Chrome DP, release in december, go back to a boxed set of 110 cards w/ 1 auto. All draft pick xrc's, no parallels.


#4-Bowman Chrome Prospects, release in july. All minor leaguers pic'd with their minor league affilliates. No RC or XRC designation but all the parallells we are accustomed to seeing from chrome which would help drive the release.



Also, do away w/ base bowman

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

I don't see the advantage as a collector of having MLB guys thrown in with the MiLBers...Topps/Topps Chrome are for MLB. BC should scream all things MiLB, and be proud of it.

i've been a supporter of this for a long time, especially since the rc logo went into effect. minor league issues produced by large companies always had a stong following and this wouldn't be any different in my eyes. here is what i would do in order to make therc logo legit.

#1-bring back the xrc designation

#2-allow all companies to create a draft pick product and designate them as xrc's

here is what i would do with the chrome brand...

#1-Bowman Chrome, release in may. include only players who started the season on the 25 man roster. Autos would consist of Rookies who broke camp with the big league club and Free agents who changed teams over the winter

#2-Bowman Chrome Upd, release in october. include rc's of september call ups and rookies which debut after the initial chrome release. Autos would be of vets who changed places at the deadline and futures game prospects. prospectors wouldn't be too fond of this but whenever a player changes clubs, collectors are clamoring for their first auto which pictures them with their new team.


#3-Bowman Chrome DP, release in december, go back to a boxed set of 110 cards w/ 1 auto. All draft pick xrc's, no parallels.


#4-Bowman Chrome Prospects, release in july. All minor leaguers pic'd with their minor league affilliates. No RC or XRC designation but all the parallells we are accustomed to seeing from chrome which would help drive the release.



Also, do away w/ base bowman

 

[guzman4cy]

i've been a supporter of this for a long time, especially since the rc logo went into effect. minor league issues produced by large companies always had a stong following and this wouldn't be any different in my eyes. here is what i would do in order to make therc logo legit.

#1-bring back the xrc designation

#2-allow all companies to create a draft pick product and designate them as xrc's

here is what i would do with the chrome brand...

#1-Bowman Chrome, release in may. include only players who started the season on the 25 man roster. Autos would consist of Rookies who broke camp with the big league club and Free agents who changed teams over the winter

#2-Bowman Chrome Upd, release in october. include rc's of september call ups and rookies which debut after the initial chrome release. Autos would be of vets who changed places at the deadline and futures game prospects. prospectors wouldn't be too fond of this but whenever a player changes clubs, collectors are clamoring for their first auto which pictures them with their new team.


#3-Bowman Chrome DP, release in december, go back to a boxed set of 110 cards w/ 1 auto. All draft pick xrc's, no parallels.


#4-Bowman Chrome Prospects, release in july. All minor leaguers pic'd with their minor league affilliates. No RC or XRC designation but all the parallells we are accustomed to seeing from chrome which would help drive the release.



Also, do away w/ base bowman

I couldn't agree more with points 1 and 2. As of Cubs fan I've been wanting a Rich Harden autograph in a Cubs jersey, but haven't been able to find one. Even more unbelievable is that I don't believe Miguel Cabrera has an autograph in a Tigers jersey. I was thinking about picking one of his autos up since they're so cheap, but everything I saw was in a Marlins jersey.

 

[thegreathambino]

i would crack it in a heart beat!!! That would be awsome. Especially, it would give more minor leaguers cards, to do more IP/TTM Autos!

 

[rico08]

I just don't want minor league team names/logos in the design. Perhaps a throwback-type insert set with veterans?

A minor league focused Chrome set would lead to a natural progression to the Rookie Logo card and at least eliminate some confusion between FY, RC, RC Logo, 1st Bowman Chrome, etc.

 

[thegreathambino]

lets say a bowman chrome milb comes out, and lets say some prospect gets a card, then another 1 of his cards comes out in bowman draft or bowman chrome, which is his real "1st chrome" rookie?

 

[cgilmo]

would you prospect 2010 Bowman Chrome MiLB?

 

[cgilmo]

this sounds like a chat room type discussion


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[bradical]

Never.

I think it would ruin their great Bowman Chrome Prospect set by diluting the market with cards of players in their MiLB uniforms. In fact, I would like to see all of the MiLB cards go.

 

[Halonut]

I don't see the advantage as a collector of having MLB guys thrown in with the MiLBers...Topps/Topps Chrome are for MLB. BC should scream all things MiLB, and be proud of it.

i've been a supporter of this for a long time, especially since the rc logo went into effect. minor league issues produced by large companies always had a stong following and this wouldn't be any different in my eyes. here is what i would do in order to make therc logo legit.

#1-bring back the xrc designation

#2-allow all companies to create a draft pick product and designate them as xrc's

here is what i would do with the chrome brand...

#1-Bowman Chrome, release in may. include only players who started the season on the 25 man roster. Autos would consist of Rookies who broke camp with the big league club and Free agents who changed teams over the winter

#2-Bowman Chrome Upd, release in october. include rc's of september call ups and rookies which debut after the initial chrome release. Autos would be of vets who changed places at the deadline and futures game prospects. prospectors wouldn't be too fond of this but whenever a player changes clubs, collectors are clamoring for their first auto which pictures them with their new team.


#3-Bowman Chrome DP, release in december, go back to a boxed set of 110 cards w/ 1 auto. All draft pick xrc's, no parallels.


#4-Bowman Chrome Prospects, release in july. All minor leaguers pic'd with their minor league affilliates. No RC or XRC designation but all the parallells we are accustomed to seeing from chrome which would help drive the release.



Also, do away w/ base bowman

milb'ers would be in their own products, DP and Prospects. the other 2 sets would be strictly vets and true rc's

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Ah, that makes more sense, I'd like this better than what's there now with Bowman. But I'd prefer Bowman be the "Home of the MiLBer" and Topps "Home of the MLBer"

milb'ers would be in their own products, DP and Prospects. the other 2 sets would be strictly vets and true rc's

 

[bballcardkid]

I just don't want minor league team names/logos in the design. Perhaps a throwback-type insert set with veterans?

A minor league focused Chrome set would lead to a natural progression to the Rookie Logo card and at least eliminate some confusion between FY, RC, RC Logo, 1st Bowman Chrome, etc.

Hit the nail on the head. The Bowman Chrome of the future would be inferior to the Bowman Chrome that we enjoy today, which isn't much to brag about. I would be completely against a MiLB Bowman Chrome, and if implimented, I would more than likely find another nitch in the hobby.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

I just don't want minor league team names/logos in the design. Perhaps a throwback-type insert set with veterans?

A minor league focused Chrome set would lead to a natural progression to the Rookie Logo card and at least eliminate some confusion between FY, RC, RC Logo, 1st Bowman Chrome, etc.

Hit the nail on the head. The Bowman Chrome of the future would be inferior to the Bowman Chrome that we enjoy today, which isn't much to brag about. I would be completely against a MiLB Bowman Chrome, and if implimented, I would more than likely find another nitch in the hobby.

Clearly, since the 2006 release, the new MLB restrictions have greatly reduced the overall "greatness" of Bowman Chrome, so we are in a still evolving Bowman Chrome product. It needs to find a new niche, and a new "wow."

The idea that current Bowman Chrome products feature a weird "two-set" product featuring MLB players and then a prospect set isn't really logical because two different markets collect each side of the product. You have your player and team collectors - the majority of which do not care about some 18-year-old prospect who will never reach the majors. Then of course you have your prospecting side - who really don't care too much about the veteran side of the product.

Long gone are the days of one continuous checklist with the last 100+ cards being what we used to refer to as "rookies."

Bowman Chrome the "Home of the Rookie Card" has been rewritten by MLBP...so something needs to be done to fix it and MLBP won't budge off of the silly "Rookie Card" denotation.

Perhaps the Bowman name simply becomes the Minor League brand, to continue a tradition of sorts, and Topps Chrome becomes the sole "chrome" product for MLB.

I don't know...obviously, and I'm just throwing ideas out there.

 

[brouthercard]

Frankly, Since Topps is the only MLB card company now, we should all just go back to what things were like prior to 2006- Let Topps continue making prospect cards in major league products, and allow us to label their first cards as rookies.

This whole mlb logo thing began cause upper deck and donruss were claiming that topps had an unfair advantage for being able to produce mlb card of minor league players.

So, now, since all other companies are out of the picture, there's no more to complain about what topps makes.

So I propose that the MLB and MLBPA should just can their "project", admit it was a joke, and just go back to what things were like pre-2006.

Let Topps go back to the old bowman, bowman chrome and bowman draft, and let them put whoever they want in them. Eliminate the rookie logo and make it simple again- a player's first card is their rookie card, no more confusion.

2005 Colby Rasmus is his rookie. 2002 Jeff Francoeur is his rookie. It was so simple back then.....and let's get back to simplicity since there's no more other companies around to complain about it.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Actually the MLBPA is a player here and would be pissed again if minor leaguers were called rookies on cards... and they'd be right for feeling that way.

People should never think Francoeur was a rookie in 2002, and people might think he was if his 2002 issues were called 'rookie cards.' If someone wants a player's first card, that person should just get his first year card, I don't see why this is a big deal.

Frankly, Since Topps is the only MLB card company now, we should all just go back to what things were like prior to 2006- Let Topps continue making prospect cards in major league products, and allow us to label their first cards as rookies.

This whole mlb logo thing began cause upper deck and donruss were claiming that topps had an unfair advantage for being able to produce mlb card of minor league players.

So, now, since all other companies are out of the picture, there's no more to complain about what topps makes.

So I propose that the MLB and MLBPA should just can their "project", admit it was a joke, and just go back to what things were like pre-2006.

Let Topps go back to the old bowman, bowman chrome and bowman draft, and let them put whoever they want in them. Eliminate the rookie logo and make it simple again- a player's first card is their rookie card, no more confusion.

2005 Colby Rasmus is his rookie. 2002 Jeff Francoeur is his rookie. It was so simple back then.....and let's get back to simplicity since there's no more other companies around to complain about it.