2012 Fleer Retro Odds & Print Runs

[jdhaugh11]

So based on the pack odds, the checklist, serial #'ed cards and what I pulled from 9 boxes, I have concluded that UD made about 1,667 cases, 10,000 full boxes, 20,000 mini boxes and 200,000 total packs of 2012 Fleer Retro Football.
Based on these numbers I have estimated the odds and print runs of the cards that were not stated. Some inserts are serial #'ed but no stated odds, while inserts have stated odds but are not serial #'ed.
Here is what I have come up with, please let me know your thoughts and if you are seeing something different (it does look like the 1960's on card autos are falling 1 per case, with the 1960 version being the most difficult)
(This is also assuming auto cards in each set have the same print run):
[TABLE="width: 408"]
[TR]
[TD]Insert[/TD]
[TD]In Set[/TD]
[TD]Odds[/TD]
[TD]Per Case[/TD]
[TD]Print Run[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1960 Variation[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]1.20[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1961 Variation[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]6.00[/TD]
[TD]400[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1962 Variation[/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]8.00[/TD]
[TD]381[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1963 Variation[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]10.00[/TD]
[TD]417[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PMG Red[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]6.00[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PMG Blue[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]3.00[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PMG Green[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]200[/TD]
[TD]0.60[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Playmakers Theatre[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]1.20[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Flair Legacy Row 0[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]6.00[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Golden Touch[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]144[/TD]
[TD]0.83[/TD]
[TD]56[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]A Cut Above[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]144[/TD]
[TD]0.83[/TD]
[TD]56[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Noyz Boyz[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]240[/TD]
[TD]0.50[/TD]
[TD]56[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Flair Hot Hands[/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]120[/TD]
[TD]1.00[/TD]
[TD]48[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Intimidation Nation[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]180[/TD]
[TD]0.67[/TD]
[TD]37[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Metal Championship Hardware[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]180[/TD]
[TD]0.67[/TD]
[TD]37[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ultra Stars[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]180[/TD]
[TD]0.67[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jambalaya[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]360[/TD]
[TD]0.33[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fleer Ultra Base[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]120.00[/TD]
[TD]4,000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fleer Metal RC[/TD]
[TD]60[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]240.00[/TD]
[TD]6,667[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Fleer Metal Retired[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]120.00[/TD]
[TD]5,000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rookie Sensations[/TD]
[TD]100[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]36.04[/TD]
[TD]601[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rookie Sensations Autos[/TD]
[TD]99[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]8.00[/TD]
[TD]135[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1960 Autos[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]667[/TD]
[TD]0.18[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1961 Autos[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]556[/TD]
[TD]0.22[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1962 Autos[/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]381[/TD]
[TD]0.32[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1963 Autos[/TD]
[TD]40[/TD]
[TD]333[/TD]
[TD]0.36[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1997 Autos[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]6.70[/TD]
[TD]223[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1998 Autos[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]6.70[/TD]
[TD]223[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1999 Autos[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]6.70[/TD]
[TD]223[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2000 Autos[/TD]
[TD]49[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]6.52[/TD]
[TD]222[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[jdhaugh11]

I believe they made about 1,200 case of Fleer Retro Basketball, so 1,667 Football doesn't seem to far off to me. The Red PMG's are #'ed out of /100 instead of /150, but there are 100 in the set unlike basketball that had only 40, making the better guys much harder to get. They also made many more RC Sensations as well 100 compared to 33. The Autos are much better for football but the inserts probably won't fetch the insane prices that basketball has seen.