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Did Purple sign any as "Grimace"?
200lbhockeyplayer
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I'm not letting this comment go without a hearty "Bravo." Well played.
bcubs
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Agreed, these end up getting pulled and sold for higher prices. I would much rather it be a blind hot box where no one knows and you're taking the chance like any other wax break.
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All In Cards
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agree 100%, I think the only people who like it are the box sellers as they can double the price on that 1 box.
200lbhockeyplayer
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To my knowledge, Leaf made the hot boxes marked for an added bonus to the seller.
Like any and all hot boxes, sometimes you're better off not getting a hot box. The odds for the other colors are better I believe in the non-hot boxes, but I could be wrong.
Like any and all hot boxes, sometimes you're better off not getting a hot box. The odds for the other colors are better I believe in the non-hot boxes, but I could be wrong.
P_Manning 18
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Exactly.
Panini doesnt mark hot boxes. Topps didnt mark the refractor hot boxes in Chrome.
And who is this overwhelming response from? Seem most on this board are saying not to mark them and this is a pretty good slice of the collecting world. Prospectors, Vintage, Player Colectors, Team Collectors and idiots like me.... So is this overwhelming response from 2-3 big buyers that you wanna please.
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All In Cards
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Leaf sold out early this morning, I put in for 3 cases yesterday to start and was going to add more today. Glad I got in early and got 3.
Ian Stewart
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Color me impressed.
We had 40+ emails with regard to hot boxes in football.. 80%+ were upset they were not marked in Valiant..
It clearly benefits the case buyer/buster.. It seems most who oppose it are smaller box buyers..
Leaf has to do those things that allow our distributors and dealers the best chance of doing well with our products, without harming the end user..
As always, if feedback shifts negatively to this method, we will reassess for sure..
If it helps, hot boxes are not easy in this product. They will be a tough pull.. They will not "dilute" the rest of the boxes,.. We are not giving them an exclusive color like in our football releases..
BG
It clearly benefits the case buyer/buster.. It seems most who oppose it are smaller box buyers..
Leaf has to do those things that allow our distributors and dealers the best chance of doing well with our products, without harming the end user..
As always, if feedback shifts negatively to this method, we will reassess for sure..
If it helps, hot boxes are not easy in this product. They will be a tough pull.. They will not "dilute" the rest of the boxes,.. We are not giving them an exclusive color like in our football releases..
BG
beefycheddar
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Heaney in this set? If not can I help get you in touch with him to get him in the set?
SydBarrett
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I understand the sentiment, and I actually support it, but I'm curious how you justify it not hurting the end user when there is a significant amount of people who are only purchasing individual boxes. Would it not be easier to try having hot boxes that aren't marked and see how that goes over in comparison to what you already know?
rico08
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Is this a fact?
SydBarrett
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All right, that is a guess. I know for a fact that caused a fair bit of confusion for people who are active in group breaks.
cmnkb8
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Are there any more Ichiro autos this year?
If Leaf stops marking hot boxes are collectors going to write an email telling you that they are glad Leaf stopped marking them? Probably not.
If Leaf stops marking hot boxes are box sellers going to write an email in disgust because they aren't making as much profit? Probably.
Look at this thread. You restart marking hot boxes and collectors think it is a bad idea. I'm sure that those who sell hot boxes for profit aren't complaining.
When you stopped making hot boxes 80% of your emails supported marking them. Now that you have restarted marking hot boxes it seems that the response isn't any where near 80% in support.
We did unmarked in valiant football and the feedback was that it added virtually no value in no resale,,.bg
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All In Cards
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Why not, you have already sold out, so its not improving your sales. I love a nice surprise when opening a box. EEE hot boxes are great and they arent marked. Hitting 10 autos is a great surprise.
My feeling is that it hurts the collector and only helps the box/case sellers.
Maybe I am stupid but when I sell the boxes from a case that has a marked hot box, I turn them all upside down and mix them up. This way I dont know who is getting the hot box. I feel its only fair to do that.
Why? To reward the customers that are purchasing your product.
You might as well place a sticker on boxes that have a super-prismatic "Contains Super-Prismatic Autograph!"
That would certainly make box sellers happy!
All The Hype
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Not to be difficult because they're great looking cards, but how do Pujols and Rose Autos fit into a Draft product? I'm sure it adds value, but those two players have absolutely nothing to do with a product like this. Is there not another Leaf product released during the year that would make more sense for the inclusion of these cards?
