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I've watched a couple of cases of football opened and all the boxes were high end with lots of autos and gu.

No 90 score or 91 Fleer to be found.
 

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@All In Cards - Andrew, a unique draft idea for a product like this would be a random team draft and bust all 6 boxes of the wax to go to each team. Whoever ends up with the Reds/Expos/Phillies would get the Rose autos, or you could treat those as 6 hopper cards. Might cut the cost down 6 spots to 15 or 30 spots.

love it, I think we will do 1 this way
 

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I will have pricing later today, just trying to figure it out
 

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Is there any guarantee against products that were notorious about redemptions? Would suck to pull a box that has expired redemptions as hits.

Here is BG's reply to this post, sent him an email

"No, we will do everything in our power to avoid products known for excessive redemptions.
Consumers of the product have the choice of opening the box inside or selling it as a sealed box.
The market prices for older boxes take this redemption issue into consideration."
 

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Why are they called Buyback cards?
Leaf didn't buy back its cards. Leaf went on eBay, to shows or wherever it buys cards and bought other company's Pete Rose cards.

I don't see legitimate companies like Topps (or the old licensed Upper Deck, Fleer or Donruss) making grab bag products and "buy backs" featuring other company's cards.

A "buy back" is like Donruss Recollection or Bowman Originals.
This is a just Tri-Star level product.

(And no, this is not an anti-Leaf post. I'd think the same thing if Topps did it. And yes, I've seen the occasional Topps auto cut of a butchered Fleer or Donruss card, but that's not an entire product like all of these Leaf products.)

It may be other companies product, but leaf is hitting the sweet spot of the market right now. I love the idea or repackaged good old products. It topps would do a repackaged product of all of there products it would be overwhelmingly good. 1952 thru 1970s product. Then some finest And tek. Really fun break. Now hitting a redemption in these boxes would suck.
 

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I'm still at a loss as to why someone would spend $200 for a box of this :confused:

If it's the gambling aspect you're looking for - why not just buy the older box of wax that you would want
Do the homework, take in consideration of the possibilities of pulling expired redemptions, and what bigs hits are left to be pulled and you'll have a better experience than buying this crap shoot innovative product.

Knowing what you are buying into sounds a lot better to me than dropping big bucks in this grab bag of ****
 

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Is there a checklist of the boxes that will be included? Also, what are the BIG boxes that you COULD hit in this product? Anything that's worth $1k or something? From the pictures, looks like the best boxes you could hit are only worth $300 or $400 right?
 

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Since 2001 how many baseball products were made that were redemption free ??

How about from 2010 ? since a majority of these redemptions expire within 3 yrs of issue?

how many of the big hits were redemptions?

No one is spending $ 400 $500 for a box of wax that might have expired redemptions in them much less $1000

For older boxes with no redemptions (or autos) 1993 Finest baseball sell for $250-300, 1993 SP sell for $550-600

Spending $200 in hopes of pulling a box of either is just plain nuts...
 

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Leaf is pleased to announce the baseball release in one of its most exciting and innovative new product categories,

2014 Leaf Best of Baseball: Unopened Edition

This release celebrates all that is great about the thrill of unopened boxes. This product includes a vast assortment of titles including many of the most exciting products of the last 30 years.
In addition, each and every box will include a PSA/DNA encapsulated authentic Pete Rose autograph ranging from 1963 Topps Rookie cards to difficult to find 1960’s and 1970’s releases and well as 1980’s and beyond issues.
This is sure to add value for all types of collectors



Judging from Leaf's limited appearance in the baseball industry over the last 30 years - I would say that there will be a small amount of Leaf product in this INNOVATIVE venture
 
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I do not like how this product has the Leaf name attached to it. This should be under some other branding. The gambling aspect that Brian is taking advantage of, I can see that, but this does nothing to improve the Leaf name.
 

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So what's the Srp for this? $100? $150? 175? 200?

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I am thinking cases will be around 900

900/6 boxes = 150

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Won't dealers be able to tell a little about what's in each "box" with just seeing how much they weigh? I mean a box of 1993 Finest weighs more than a box of 2013 Tribute. or a box of 1993 SP weights more than a box of like 2012 TTT. Or seeing if the box is moving all around and is small like 1998 TEK versus a large box like 1993 SP? Just find it to be an odd thing to get a case of and just see what each "box" feels like.
 

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Also, for what it's worth, I am in the camp of saying this product is 100% just a gamble. Period. I mean there is no other reason to buy the product... you're not doing it for a Rose auto, so you're doing it for the thrill of what box you'll get inside and if it'll return the $ after opening, which from the sounds of it, few will.

All that said, a really cool break format would be 12 spots and a draft format. You break open each "box" and you'll be left with 6 rose autos and 6 sealed throwback boxes. Draft in order... if you want a rose, take a rose... if you want a box, pick a box. It would be a fun interesting break and I'd be in for the price, which sounds like about $75 a spot right?
 

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I will not say anything other than this:

For every $600 box, for a $150 MSRP, there are likely 20 boxes that can be purchased for less than $50, that will be in your $150 box.


Scratchoffs may be a better buy. Not as fun, but a better buy.


Good luck.
 

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Agree 100% with Jeff. In order to sell them for $150, the company has to make money.
Take packaging and promotion into account for costs - they are still making money on the $150.

Take into the account of what probably was paid on the market for the boxes included in this product - they are still making money on the $150.

In order to make money on that $150, they have to have boxes that are (on average) worth far LESS than the SRP of $150 in order to include boxes that are worth far MORE than the SRP of $150. (Keep in mind the $150 is just an estimate by Andrew)

So you can have a box with a $300 cost on the secondary market (roughly, paid by Leaf) that will have to be offset with anything from a single box that cost $0 (yeah, right) up to 150 boxes that cost $149. (Again, just for example... this doesn't factor in packaging and promotion)

Both of those extremes are unrealistic, but what is more realistic would be being offset by two boxes that are worth $75 on the secondary market.

Like all products - it's a big gamble.
 
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