Politics should have nothing to do with the Hall of Fame, but that is our culture now.
I could not agree more as well. He would get my vote also.I agree on this point. I understand why some people hold his words against him, and in some cases I'm one of them. But the question is whether or not he earned it on the field. I think he did. Not a slam dunk, but if I had a vote I'd give it to him. 3000 strikeouts and one of the best postseason pitchers ever.
It has to be his politics. The 15 other eligible pitchers with 3,000 Ks are in the Hall (excluding Clemens of course). And Schilling has a very strong case for being better than his contemporary in the HOF, Mike Mussina.I could not agree more as well. He would get my vote also.
So I'm just going to say it. This cancel culture needs to stop!
It's very dangerous and Anti-American, and that goes for whatever political views you have or wherever you stand on any issues.
This is the United States of America and you should have the right to your beliefs without the fear of being silenced, cancelled or perhaps in Schilling's case denied a HOF induction. There's no real concrete proof that that played a huge part in the voting but we're living in times where everyone is at each others throats if we disagree and it's the worst I've ever seen since I've been alive. We don't have to agree with each other but we do need to respect each other's opinions and not look at those that we do disagree with as our enemies.
There is nothing in the guidance for HOF voters that says they should take into accounts the beliefs of the player in determining HOF worthiness. Everyone hated Ty Cobb but he is in.I mean if the dude posts extremely negative things about journalists on Twitter and the Hall of Fame is voted on by...journalists...yeah that's gonna happen. This isn't about political party, Mariano Rivera supported the same president Schilling did and got 100% of the vote. This is the United States, which means Schilling has the freedom to say whatever hateful things he wants, but it does not absolve him of consequences for the things he says. People not wanting to vote for him for an award is going to be a consequence of the things Schilling says.
There's the famous "character clause", which fair or not influences the voters more on a borderline case than on an absolute lock like Ty Cobb.There is nothing in the guidance for HOF voters that says they should take into accounts the beliefs of the player in determining HOF worthiness. Everyone hated Ty Cobb but he is in.
I disagree that your life should be destroyed because of words and I agree with Randy that this cancel culture is anti-American. If you think or believe differently, you must be punished and your voice silenced? Really? One writer voted against Schilling because he didn't want to give him a bigger platform; as if it is his job to protect us from ideas. Some of these self-important writers really need to get over themselves.Pretty sure we've had this same exact conversation about Schilling the previous eight HOF elections. If voters aren't to vote him in, then there is absolutely NOTHING that can be done about it except whining. This isn't "cancel culture", this isn't "the way things are now", this has been happening for almost a decade now. This is America, he can say whatever bigoted bullshit he wants, and he is completely free to do so. But he is also completely free to suffer the consequences of those words, and if one of those consequences is that he hasn't been deemed fit to be voted into the HOF for almost a decade, then that's just how the system works.
Not exactly. If a voter is offended by Schilling not wanting a man dressed up like a woman using the same bathrooms as his daughter, then the voter should step aside and let someone objective handle the hall of fame voting.So what you're saying is that you want to silence that particular HOF voter because of what he said?
Ha I'm not getting into a point by point debate with you about particular comments he has made. I've read articles from HOF voters that vote for him, and articles from those that won't, and I see the merits of and respect both views.What is an example of bad character that would keep Schilling out of the HOF?
That's interesting, as I do not think he'd even be under consideration were it not for his Red Sox years.
There is nothing in the guidance for HOF voters that says they should take into accounts the beliefs of the player in determining HOF worthiness. Everyone hated Ty Cobb but he is in.