25 Things You Didn't Know About Baseball in 2011

[alwayson22]

Pretty interesting read over at Yahoo! Sports. A deep look into the best and worst players (statistically) on Fangraphs for 2011.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=A ... all_082511

 

[JoshHamilton]

Interesting read. Thanked.

The popout thing is crazy.

 

[alwayson22]

Interesting read. Thanked.

The popout thing is crazy.

Agreed. It never even occurred to me that a player with Votto's power might only popout once in two seasons. Unreal.

 

[Musial Collector]

6. Hitters love Haren’s junk.

:lol:

 

[wolfmanalfredo]

Pop outs and fly ball outs are different outs i believe.

 

[RL24]

Pop outs and fly ball outs are different outs i believe.

pop outs are fly balls that are caught by infielders... is that what you mean?

 

[JoshHamilton]

Pop outs and fly ball outs are different outs i believe.

pop outs are fly balls that are caught by infielders... is that what you mean?

Yes

 

[Yankees1218]

Pop outs and fly ball outs are different outs i believe.

They are the same.

 

[Guest]

Pop outs and fly ball outs are different outs i believe.

They are the same.

Flyout is to the OF, popout to the IF

 

[JoshHamilton]

Pop outs and fly ball outs are different outs i believe.

They are the same.

No

 

[Yankees1218]

There is no statistical difference, but it is just based on how far laterally the ball goes. Its not about infield or outfield... I can say popout to third or flyout to third. Its perspective and opinion. No clear definition that a popout is infielders and flyout is outfielders.

 

[Guest]

There is no statistical difference, but it is just based on how far laterally the ball goes. Its not about infield or outfield... I can say popout to third or flyout to third. Its perspective and opinion. No clear definition that a popout is infielders and flyout is outfielders.

The article is counting a popout as one to the infield though, not just any fly ball out

 

[wolfmanalfredo]

There is no statistical difference, but it is just based on how far laterally the ball goes. Its not about infield or outfield... I can say popout to third or flyout to third. Its perspective and opinion. No clear definition that a popout is infielders and flyout is outfielders.

pop out is almost unanimously considered a short fly out. Infield, or just on the outfield grass. I'd be willing to bet that Votto has had plenty of fly outs, and just a few popouts

 

[wolfmanalfredo]

A fly ball or simply fly is a ball that is hit in the air, usually very high. Fielders attempt to catch fly balls on their descent.

A pop fly or pop-up is a specific type of fly ball that goes very high while not traveling very far laterally. From the perspective of the fielder, pop-ups seem to come straight down. A fly ball is usually caught in flight and thus results in an out, called a fly out or a pop out as the case may be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batted_ball

 

[Yankees1218]

Yes, i agree that they are different when using them in a sentence, but not statistically. Noone sits there and decides the difference between each out.

 

[braden]

Yes, i agree that they are different when using them in a sentence, but not statistically. Noone sits there and decides the difference between each out.

Except for, you know, the peeps at Fangraphs who compiled the stats that led to this very article everyone's referencing.

 

[wolfmanalfredo]

Yes, i agree that they are different when using them in a sentence, but not statistically. Noone sits there and decides the difference between each out.

Well I agree with you there. No statistical difference, an out is an out. This is just pertaining to the article, as only 10 pop outs in Votto's career is misleading when you don't differentiate them from fly outs.

 

[Gonzaleznut]

I would like to point out that a fly ball has significantly more advantages than a pop fly to the infield. It is called advancing runners. Even though both are outs, I watch every Rangers game and I cannot tell you how many runners have advanced on fly outs to the outfield and then scored runs later because of it. Fly outs can be "productive" outs where pop outs are almost never "productive".

 

[Yankees1218]

After looking on Fangraphs.com, Joey Votto has 1 INFIELD FLY OUT in the last 2 years, not popouts...

 

[rymflaherty]

I like the look at the 6 guys that have been able to hit every pitch. Seems like quite a feet.
A little surprised Ortiz is one of those guys this year....goes to show how well he has been hitting this year. For all those guys, the numbers aren't a "fluke".