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MaineMule
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Bagwell, Raines and Pudge R.
Not surprised.....will post vote totals ASAP.
Not surprised.....will post vote totals ASAP.
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AnthonyCorona
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Hoffman is confusing to me, to me he's such a no brainer. These writers annoy the crap out of me. They're so sanctimonious talking about PEDs and I don't think any of them played. I like Verducci until he talks about his vote
Collecting: Phil Bickford, Brandon Wood (still), Yankees and Rockies
Collecting: Phil Bickford, Brandon Wood (still), Yankees and Rockies
goobmcnasty
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Bagwell and Pudge I agree with.
When I think HOFer, I think someone who dominated the sport for years. It just doesn't feel like Raines was a dominant force.
And Bagwell never had steroids cloud his name? I thought he was in that mix.
When I think HOFer, I think someone who dominated the sport for years. It just doesn't feel like Raines was a dominant force.
And Bagwell never had steroids cloud his name? I thought he was in that mix.
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MaineMule
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I agree that Raines does not jump out at me as a HOFer. Played a long time. Nice numbers but other than SB's nothing jumps out at me.
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MansGame
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Tim Raines (eye roll)
Pudge on the other hand, very happy for him and well deserved... we might be neighbors too, so that's pretty sweet
Pudge on the other hand, very happy for him and well deserved... we might be neighbors too, so that's pretty sweet
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Austin
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Glad Raines finally made it.
One of the greatest leadoff hitters of all-time and he retired with the best career stolen base success rate ever among players with 300+ attempts.
Among switch hitters, Raines ranks sixth in career hits, fourth in runs, walks and times on base.
Bill James ranks Raines as the 40th greatest non-pitcher in baseball history according to his win-shares formula.
He was a dominant player in the '80s like Rickey and would have easily had 3,000 hits if lupus didn't derail the last decade of his career.
And as a Rangers fan, stoked about Pudge!
One of the greatest leadoff hitters of all-time and he retired with the best career stolen base success rate ever among players with 300+ attempts.
Among switch hitters, Raines ranks sixth in career hits, fourth in runs, walks and times on base.
Bill James ranks Raines as the 40th greatest non-pitcher in baseball history according to his win-shares formula.
He was a dominant player in the '80s like Rickey and would have easily had 3,000 hits if lupus didn't derail the last decade of his career.
And as a Rangers fan, stoked about Pudge!
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MrMet
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So you are telling me that Pudge Bags Rock in the Hall of Fame?
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maestracewslover
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" How the f*** is Jeff Bagwell being inducted into the Hall of Fame and Mark mcgwire's not that is disgusting"
Jose Canseco
What a tool this guy is. I think he should just sew his lips shut and crawl in a hole.
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Jose Canseco
What a tool this guy is. I think he should just sew his lips shut and crawl in a hole.
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MansGame
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^^LOL
BBCgalaxee
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Well it's about time for raines.
With that, every topps set from 1971 to 1992 has a RC of a HOF player.
DTA
With that, every topps set from 1971 to 1992 has a RC of a HOF player.
DTA
bstanwood
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I'm happy for all three of those guys. Well earned congrats to them.
I can't stand the voting, it will never be perfect but what put raines over the top this year!?!? It's been awhile since he swiped a base. Pretty upset about Hoffman and vladdy, they should have made it.
I look at the ballot and the steroid era really mucks it up but they get to vote 10 in, Tim Raines should not have waited this long, it's not like they were electing 10 guys a year until now. And for the ~26% that didn't vote for hoffman, why not? What are we waiting for? His fastball/changeup combo won't improve before next January, when he will likely get in.
I have to stop or my rant will become uncontrollable.
I can't stand the voting, it will never be perfect but what put raines over the top this year!?!? It's been awhile since he swiped a base. Pretty upset about Hoffman and vladdy, they should have made it.
I look at the ballot and the steroid era really mucks it up but they get to vote 10 in, Tim Raines should not have waited this long, it's not like they were electing 10 guys a year until now. And for the ~26% that didn't vote for hoffman, why not? What are we waiting for? His fastball/changeup combo won't improve before next January, when he will likely get in.
I have to stop or my rant will become uncontrollable.
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Congrats to all three!!
RStadlerASU22
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In my original post I only said congrats to Pudge, buts that because he was my favorite catcher I've watched. I'll add on and say congrats to Jeff n Tim too.
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Austin
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I think he counts the 1986 Sportflics Rookies update set Barry Larkin (his only '86 card).
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Tool maybe. But that was one of my first thoughts too. Didn't Bagwell have a cloud of steroid suspicion around him? He was one of the more exciting guys to watch when I was growing up, so I'm glad to see him in. But you know who else was exciting? Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, A-Rod, Manny. But that's another discussion.
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The value of this card just went up.. not much but a little..
