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moss has only been on giants since ny logo has been on jersey

your moss collector, show us a card with giants on his jersey
 

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matchpenalty said:
moss has only been on giants since ny logo has been on jersey

your moss collector, show us a card with giants on his jersey
Moss doesn't have many cards after 2006 (rookie season), so there's not much to go on. Even on the majority of his 07 cards, they picture him from the rookie premiere.
 

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Just because you found pictures doesn't mean he has never wore it.

Until i see a game sheet from every game he has ever been in showing the jerseys you still have no proof lol
 

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Unless they wore some sort of throwback, there's a good chance it's fake.

From wiki

2005-present

In 2005, the Giants unveiled road uniforms that are close replicas of the ones worn by the 1956 Giants Championship team, save for small details such as the helmet's metallic look, the addition of belts and different block number locations.

A subtle alteration in 2005 affected both the home and away uniforms: the GIANTS logo below the neck of the jersey was replaced with the "ny" logo (white on the home and home alternate jersey and red one for away). As previously noted, this ended a 29-year run of the GIANTS script logo appearing on the team's uniforms in some capacity.

2005 also marked the switch from white to black cleats (a change not reflected in the official uniform templates pictured below), ending 30 seasons of white footgear for the team.
 

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Some card collectors just don't get and blindly think anything a card company slaps on a card is legit. They should have to show and prove the stuff they are cutting up is legit stuff. Not card collectors. But most card collectors are complete idiots to game used stuff.
 

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LOL ^^ The king is so self righteous. You may be right now that I am checking Chris Creamers site but come off wrong.
 

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wheeler281 said:
LOL ^^ The king is so self righteous.

He is right. I remember that thread with cards that were clearly not game worn. Like the Kurt Warner where the autograph part of the swatch (DLP cut up a signed jersey) but the sharpie went under the stitching which makes no sense.

UD had a Pujols bat barrel card of a bat company he does not use (i want to say mizuno, but I would have to go back and check.
 

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edited that he probably is but that was not the point of the comment
 

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matchpenalty said:
Some card collectors just don't get and blindly think anything a card company slaps on a card is legit. They should have to show and prove the stuff they are cutting up is legit stuff. Not card collectors. But most card collectors are complete idiots to game used stuff.

Christ. For that matter, what proof do you have that your auto'ed cards were actually signed by the player who the company claims signed them? None.
 

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Groat said:
matchpenalty said:
Some card collectors just don't get and blindly think anything a card company slaps on a card is legit. They should have to show and prove the stuff they are cutting up is legit stuff. Not card collectors. But most card collectors are complete idiots to game used stuff.

Christ. For that matter, what proof do you have that your auto'ed cards were actually signed by the player who the company claims signed them? None.

None, but game used can be much easier to prove. I dug up the thread. How can this be? Notice no sharpie on the stitching.

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I have a lot more faith in cert auto cards. Yeah, some i'm sure may be fake. But at least you have an entire auto and know card companies did signings with them. Also guys can sign thousands of autos. While game used legit gamers are few and far between for some guys.
I have no faith in game used cards. I try and help. But most card collectors just don't care to hold card companies to some standard and keeping records on where and how they got all these game used jerseys. When almost anyone knows many many fakes are passed off in auction houses. It's incredible how they get some of these super rare jerseys, but no one knows where they get them or how legit they are. If I were spending big money on game used patch cards, i'd want to know exactly where the jersey came from and who authenticated it. That just me. Many don't care at all.
 

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