A playground for fakes

[dinicon]

Not sure what to make of this. It was originally posted in sportscardforum. Looks bad.

[ebay:2dakkepc]390134242629[/ebay:2dakkepc]

Love to see a close-up. Aren't those all red 1/1s? And the middle rows are the gold dual autos /15? All without stickers, just waiting to be filled by some ******.

 

[Billy Packer]

Isn't Cargo Largo the unclaimed freight reseller that also had that huge pile of missing baseball autograph redemptions earlier this year? I think Topps eventually ended up buying those back - wouldn't be surprised to see the same thing happen here.

Edit: it is - here's the link to the other thread -

http://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61659&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=cargo+largo

 

[dinicon]

Yeah I remember reading about cargolargo with those baseball cards. Wonder how Topps 'lost' this in the first place.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

First off, this is very bizarre that a seller has this sheet as Topps controls everything throughout the printing process through bar codes, etc.

That said, it is plausible that this is just an uncut sheet of the front "skin" of the cards with no backs. Jersey cards are built in layers, applying the front to a card stock and then the back.

 

[Billy Packer]

First off, this is very bizarre that a seller has this sheet as Topps controls everything throughout the printing process through bar codes, etc.

That said, it is plausible that this is just an uncut sheet of the front "skin" of the cards with no backs. Jersey cards are built in layers, applying the front to a card stock and then the back.

By "controls" do you mean they print it in-house? I'm assuming that they contract out the printing, which means that something has to get shipped in and out at some point. Unless it's being carried via dedicated courier, there is always the possibility of something gettting "lost in the mail" whether it's USPS, Fed Ex or whatever. What's more suspicious to me (and the question I'd want to have answered if I was a Topps exec) is how these lost items of theirs keep ending up at Cargo Largo. Once maybe, but this is two pretty high profile incidences within a couple of months of one another. I'd be VERY interested (probably even subpoena interested) in finding out how exactly they're coming into possession of these items from the Topps production chain.

 

[tikitomoka]

this story is very intriguing along with the tosoni autos because of this seller somehow having both. will be interesting to see what comes of these

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

First off, this is very bizarre that a seller has this sheet as Topps controls everything throughout the printing process through bar codes, etc.

That said, it is plausible that this is just an uncut sheet of the front "skin" of the cards with no backs. Jersey cards are built in layers, applying the front to a card stock and then the back.

By "controls" do you mean they print it in-house? I'm assuming that they contract out the printing, which means that something has to get shipped in and out at some point. Unless it's being carried via dedicated courier, there is always the possibility of something gettting "lost in the mail" whether it's USPS, Fed Ex or whatever. What's more suspicious to me (and the question I'd want to have answered if I was a Topps exec) is how these lost items of theirs keep ending up at Cargo Largo. Once maybe, but this is two pretty high profile incidences within a couple of months of one another. I'd be VERY interested (probably even subpoena interested) in finding out how exactly they're coming into possession of these items from the Topps production chain.

Topps (like Upper Deck, Panini, Razor, etc.) does indeed use independent printers for all of their card production and packaging. In regards to Topps "controlling" everything, each sheet is bar coded and traceable, and typically accompanied by a company employee throughout the process. (Similar to many motion pictures throughout the editing processes.)

A set like Sterling (or foil/Chrome/refractor, etc.) is probably outsourced to a secondary provider unlike their standard cards which are printed by PBM. Of course, the secondary company is probably part of the same printing conglomerate...Consolidated Graphics.

All of this said...this problem is a weird one, same seller...two different situations...both bad.

 

[Daltonb1219]

Well done see myself buying any bowman sterling 1/1now

 

[cgilmo]

douuuuuuche baggery


http://www.freedomcardboard.com/?p=216

 

[Ron_Mexico]

if an "employee" took this sheet - why sell this one , it sucks. no back to it , just a front "as you guys say Proof sheet" , why not sell a bowman chrome superfractor sheet that has both front and back ?? but ill give the seller props its hard to cut a chrome sheet the way he did though he is maddd shady

 

[tikitomoka]

did you guys not catch the other 8 or so the seller had too?