AL Gold Glove awards just announced

[carlitoson]

In my opinion, Markakis is probably the best rightfielder - leading AL OFs in assists (correct me if I am wrong). A couple more than Ichiro...

Yes, you are correct Markakis led the AL in OF assists.
However, Ichiro had a higher fielding percentage, less errors, a better range factor, more putouts and double plays.

Jason Bay led the league in assists (and didn't commit an error either).

 

[Big Mac McGwire]

Congrats to Longoria!!!

ROY - check

Gold Glove - Check

MVP - let's get er done!!

 

[mredsox89]

In my opinion, Markakis is probably the best rightfielder - leading AL OFs in assists (correct me if I am wrong). A couple more than Ichiro...

Yes, you are correct Markakis led the AL in OF assists.
However, Ichiro had a higher fielding percentage, less errors, a better range factor, more putouts and double plays.

Jason Bay led the league in assists (and didn't commit an error either).

And no one would call Bay anything more than an average fielder. In fact the majority consider him a well below average fielder

 

[Brett Keith]

I really like Adam Jones, but Gutierrez and Upton should have been ahead of him. I think Andrus should have taken SS, but atleast Jeter actually played pretty good defense this year.

 

[scotty21690]

Jeter? :?

Wheres Ellsbury??

What he said.

Just because he lets up so he can make "great" diving catches doesn't mean he should win a GoldGlove.

Why doesn't this surprise me that this is comming from a Yankee homer?

If you had watched Ellsbury this season he made many incredible catches as well as save leads and win games for us with his defense.

 

[vwnut13]

In my opinion, Markakis is probably the best rightfielder - leading AL OFs in assists (correct me if I am wrong). A couple more than Ichiro...

Yes, you are correct Markakis led the AL in OF assists.
However, Ichiro had a higher fielding percentage, less errors, a better range factor, more putouts and double plays.

Jason Bay led the league in assists (and didn't commit an error either).

And no one would call Bay anything more than an average fielder. In fact the majority consider him a well below average fielder

Psst, he plays left field in Fenway.

Do you remeber the Yanks-Sox game this past season in which a ball hit the green Monster and rolled right back to the infield where Jeter picked it up and get an out at home plate (maybe third)?

 

[mredsox89]

In my opinion, Markakis is probably the best rightfielder - leading AL OFs in assists (correct me if I am wrong). A couple more than Ichiro...

Yes, you are correct Markakis led the AL in OF assists.
However, Ichiro had a higher fielding percentage, less errors, a better range factor, more putouts and double plays.

Jason Bay led the league in assists (and didn't commit an error either).

And no one would call Bay anything more than an average fielder. In fact the majority consider him a well below average fielder

Psst, he plays left field in Fenway.

Do you remeber the Yanks-Sox game this past season in which a ball hit the green Monster and rolled right back to the infield where Jeter picked it up and get an out at home plate (maybe third)?

Um, did I say that Bay was a good fielder? I think he is a below average fielder, but becomes average because of Fenway

 

[andyduke86]

LOL, Jeter. All the proof you need that the Gold Glove award has absolutely no meaning anymore.

The reason Jeter gets credit for his defense is because he makes the ordinary plays look spectacular. All the unnecessary jumping throws on balls that are 1 step to his left than an average ss gets no problem. Otherwise he just doesn't get to the ball if it's more than 1 or 2 steps away. He's terrible defensively at short.

Also, using stats like fielding percentage and range factor are close to useless in evaluating defense. UZR is really the only stat that's valuable for judging defense and that's highly variable and really only valuable over long periods (several years). Otherwise you've just got to judge through scouting and watching lots of games.

 

[Austin]

In my opinion, Markakis is probably the best rightfielder - leading AL OFs in assists (correct me if I am wrong). A couple more than Ichiro...

Yes, you are correct Markakis led the AL in OF assists.
However, Ichiro had a higher fielding percentage, less errors, a better range factor, more putouts and double plays.

Jason Bay led the league in assists (and didn't commit an error either).

Oh, I looked up assists by position on ESPN.com, but it was just rightfielders (comparing Markakis to Ichiro).
I should have written, led AL rightfielders in assists.

 

[wolfmanalfredo]

In my opinion, Markakis is probably the best rightfielder - leading AL OFs in assists (correct me if I am wrong). A couple more than Ichiro...

Yes, you are correct Markakis led the AL in OF assists.
However, Ichiro had a higher fielding percentage, less errors, a better range factor, more putouts and double plays.

Also Ichiro and many other OF's with amazingly accuarate arms don't get run on as frequent as others. This is one reason why I don't give much creedence to OF assists.

 

[darocker80]

ICHIRO!!!

 

[FromKoufaxtoEdwin]

Franklin Gutierrez not winning the award should surprise me...but it doesnt. They really need to get rid of the gold glove, as basically it is the "best hitter at that position" award. Wait, dont they already have the silver slugger for that? This is just a pointless exercise that shows how little the people voting on this (and these are the people deemed to be most knowledgeable about the game!) know about how to evaluate the game. Just this year alone we have the continuation of adulation of the two most overrated defenders of the last 15 years in Derek Jeter and Torii Hunter. Hunter, who hasnt had a positive UZR since 2005 (2005!) continues to rake in the award and be mentioned in the best of all time discussions in terms of defensive center fielders. Since 2001, he has had 2 positive UZR years along with 2 average years and 4 below average years. Yup, that sure seems like a gold glover. We all know about Jeter, but at least he was decent this year. You cant have a worse choice than Michael Young at SS last year, but Jeter isnt exactly a defensive whiz.

 

[ctmike]

Sometimes players like Jeter, who have poor range, win Gold Gloves precisely because they have poor range.
Since they can't get to balls as well, they end up making great plays because they have to dive to get to balls.
Same with outfielders. Those who are not fast have to dive more, making it look like they are great fielders.
Sure, they make great plays. But if they had more range, they wouldn't have had to dive.
Quite a paradox, isn't it?

Your logic is very flawed I'm afraid. Yes, a ball that a fielder with good range would be caught more easily than a feilder with poorer range. But saying a fielder with good range wouldn't have to dive as much is just ridiculous! A fielder with good range would be prone to diving just as much as one with poorer range. Using how much someone dives for a ball is just plain irrelevant. Some players are more willing to dive than others. This demonstrates their heart, not their actual ability.

I will say though that Jeter never would have had this Gold Glove without Teixeira at first base. Throwing over to Giambi was always an adventure but you can close your eyes and throw the ball to first base and Teixeira will come up with it.

 

[jcmint]

Tex scooping up arod and jeters throws helped those guys tremendously. For all the jeter haters out there his defense this year was consistently good. I cant recall him making any bad plays. Ripken won some gold gloves too and his range was just as limited. There was not a guy in the AL who played much better.

Sometimes players like Jeter, who have poor range, win Gold Gloves precisely because they have poor range.
Since they can't get to balls as well, they end up making great plays because they have to dive to get to balls.
Same with outfielders. Those who are not fast have to dive more, making it look like they are great fielders.
Sure, they make great plays. But if they had more range, they wouldn't have had to dive.
Quite a paradox, isn't it?

Your logic is very flawed I'm afraid. Yes, a ball that a fielder with good range would be caught more easily than a feilder with poorer range. But saying a fielder with good range wouldn't have to dive as much is just ridiculous! A fielder with good range would be prone to diving just as much as one with poorer range. Using how much someone dives for a ball is just plain irrelevant. Some players are more willing to dive than others. This demonstrates their heart, not their actual ability.

I will say though that Jeter never would have had this Gold Glove without Teixeira at first base. Throwing over to Giambi was always an adventure but you can close your eyes and throw the ball to first base and Teixeira will come up with it.

 

[vwnut13]

Sometimes players like Jeter, who have poor range, win Gold Gloves precisely because they have poor range.
Since they can't get to balls as well, they end up making great plays because they have to dive to get to balls.
Same with outfielders. Those who are not fast have to dive more, making it look like they are great fielders.
Sure, they make great plays. But if they had more range, they wouldn't have had to dive.
Quite a paradox, isn't it?

Your logic is very flawed I'm afraid. Yes, a ball that a fielder with good range would be caught more easily than a feilder with poorer range. But saying a fielder with good range wouldn't have to dive as much is just ridiculous! A fielder with good range would be prone to diving just as much as one with poorer range. Using how much someone dives for a ball is just plain irrelevant. Some players are more willing to dive than others. This demonstrates their heart, not their actual ability.

I will say though that Jeter never would have had this Gold Glove without Teixeira at first base. Throwing over to Giambi was always an adventure but you can close your eyes and throw the ball to first base and Teixeira will come up with it.

Tex scooping up arod and jeters throws helped those guys tremendously. For all the jeter haters out there his defense this year was consistently good. I cant recall him making any bad plays. Ripken won some gold gloves too and his range was just as limited. There was not a guy in the AL who played much better.

But Ripken wasn't a Yankee.

So I assume sox fans feel that Variteks GoldGlove in 2005 was a good choice?

"But if they had more range, they wouldn't have had to dive."

If Pedroia had more height then he wouldn't have to dive as much making the plays look as great.

I don't even want to hear that height doesn't limit your range. It does.

 

[colts1888]

not shocked by any except 2ndbase I think Cano did a great job at 2nd and only had a few errors he made some plays that defiantly were a sure thing base hit other than I htink the choices were pretty good and no shockers

 

[bodiaz]

Don't want to sound like a homer, but Granderson should have a GG over Adam Jones! Granderson plays one of the biggest CFs flawlessly with stiffs on both sides of him! He covers so much ground, more than any other CF imo! Water covers 75% of the earth, Granderson covers the rest!

 

[andyduke86]

Tex scooping up arod and jeters throws helped those guys tremendously. For all the jeter haters out there his defense this year was consistently good. I cant recall him making any bad plays. Ripken won some gold gloves too and his range was just as limited. There was not a guy in the AL who played much better.

LOL, not surprising coming from you. Andrus, Everett, Izturis, Bartlett, were easily better than Jeter. I'm sure there are a few more. I will give it to Jeter though, he has gotten much better defensively but he is still no better than average.

 

[nborton]

Don't want to sound like a homer, but Granderson should have a GG over Adam Jones! Granderson plays one of the biggest CFs flawlessly with stiffs on both sides of him! He covers so much ground, more than any other CF imo! Water covers 75% of the earth, Granderson covers the rest!

I was thinking with Sizemore out this might be the year for Granderson. I guess not.

 

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