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Thoughts? Am i well off here? He doesnt shoot for a high percentage! I dont know > he just doesnt strike me as a MVP!
 

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he only shoots a little worse than other players who r behind rose in MVP, but Rose also has 8 assists per game and their team would not be very good without rose (Heat would be good even without lebron)
 

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sports-vault said:
Thoughts? Am i well off here? He doesnt shoot for a high percentage! I dont know > he just doesnt strike me as a MVP!

Then you haven't been paying attention. He's the best player on the best team, a team that was expected to be good but not this good. One stat does not make for an MVP.
 

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Zeeck said:
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Thoughts? Am i well off here? He doesnt shoot for a high percentage! I dont know > he just doesnt strike me as a MVP!

Then you haven't been paying attention. He's the best player on the best team, a team that was expected to be good but not this good. One stat does not make for an MVP.
Even though they had the best record, i dont think they are the favorites to go to the Finals!
 

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Your not crazy, I couldnt agree more.... Im not even sure he is the best pg in the nba.. Chicago just has a good team that fits his style of play.... he is good.. I dont put him in the great category.... if they didnt have the best record in the nba he wouldnt be getting the mvp hype... Lebron is the mvp of the nba.
 

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I disagree with the comment Bulls wouldnt be good without rose.. and heat would be good without lebron... I think that is 100% wrong.... The bulls would be even better if lebron was their pg.... bulls have a good well rounded team.. the heat team is a mess.... without lebron they would barley make the playoffs
 

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jeff152380 said:
without lebron they would barley make the playoffs
i think they'd make playoffs easily, and there's no way the bulls are a playoff team without Rose.


Lebron would win the best stats award, but he is not one of the top 4 in players who are valuable to their team (Rose, Kobe, Nowitski, Howard), cause those 4 teams would be bottom 10 without their star player, while the heat would still be good.
 

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your crazy.. look at Cleveland without lebron.... Chicago would be a playoff team without rose... People just love to hate on the best player in the game. Wade had many chances to carry a team and he didnt amount to anything.....
 

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your crazy.. look at Cleveland without lebron.... Chicago would be a playoff team without rose... People just love to hate on the best player in the game. Wade had many chances to carry a team and he didnt amount to anything.....
Cleveland sucks without lebron and that is why Lebron won MVP last year, and this isn't the best player award either its most VALUABLE player

Bottom line is the Bulls have a better record even though Lebron has a better supporting cast
 

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After watching the last game the Bulls had against the Celtics, Rose really reminded me of Allen Iverson. He's a guy that can score almost at will, but needs to dominate the ball on the offensive end. That's not meant to be a knock on him, but that is the best comparison I came up with.
 

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yeah i forgot to mention that - hes nowhere near as quick - but a better NBA player
 

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Lebron fg attempt 18.8, 51.0 Fg%, 75.9 Ft%, 7.5 Reb, 7 ast, 1.6 stl, .6 blks 26.7 pts, wins 58
Rose fg attempt 19.7, 44.5 Fg%, 85.8 Ft%, 4.1 reb, 7.7 ast, 1.1 stl, .6 blks, 25 pts, 62 wins

number wise Lebron is better in everything but .7 assist, ft% and 4 wins....

people just want a reason not to give lebron MVP... just as they did Jordan back in the day
 

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lmao did you just pull the lebron-jordan comparison? lebron has accomplished NOTHING in the post-season. the cavs are bad now without lebron because there were no pieces there when he left, and the pieces that were there got hurt. bron isn't even the best player on his team, let alone the best in the league... but i forgot that stats translate into play
 

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Lebron fg attempt 18.8, 51.0 Fg%, 75.9 Ft%, 7.5 Reb, 7 ast, 1.6 stl, .6 blks 26.7 pts, wins 58
Rose fg attempt 19.7, 44.5 Fg%, 85.8 Ft%, 4.1 reb, 7.7 ast, 1.1 stl, .6 blks, 25 pts, 62 wins

number wise Lebron is better in everything but .7 assist, ft% and 4 wins....

people just want a reason not to give lebron MVP... just as they did Jordan back in the day
But it's not the best stats award

Rose has more wins without the supporting cast
 

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bigeric said:
jeff152380 said:
Lebron fg attempt 18.8, 51.0 Fg%, 75.9 Ft%, 7.5 Reb, 7 ast, 1.6 stl, .6 blks 26.7 pts, wins 58
Rose fg attempt 19.7, 44.5 Fg%, 85.8 Ft%, 4.1 reb, 7.7 ast, 1.1 stl, .6 blks, 25 pts, 62 wins

number wise Lebron is better in everything but .7 assist, ft% and 4 wins....

people just want a reason not to give lebron MVP... just as they did Jordan back in the day
But it's not the best stats award

Rose has more wins without the supporting cast


without the supporting cast? he arguably has the best supporting cast in the league, three legitimate big men in noah, boozer and gibson off the bench, deng offensively and bogans on defense...on the heat it is lebron wade and bosh, they have no inside man what so ever and no bench what so ever which is why they got in trouble during this regular season at times
 

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tikitomoka said:
lmao did you just pull the lebron-jordan comparison? lebron has accomplished NOTHING in the post-season. the cavs are bad now without lebron because there were no pieces there when he left, and the pieces that were there got hurt. bron isn't even the best player on his team, let alone the best in the league... but i forgot that stats translate into play


the cavs were terrible, jordan is the best to ever play and no one will ever be surpass him but even he would not have won with that team, when jordan left the bulls for baseball that team won 55 games and lost in a game seven in the second round of the playoffs with scottie pippen as a mvp contender, a little bit different than what lebron had around him dont you think?


and all the analysts say lebron is the best player in the game but drose is the mvp which i cant argue with considering they had more wins, if the heat had more wins though than it should have went to lebron which probably would not have happened because people dislike him now because of the "decision"
 

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jeff152380 said:
Your not crazy, I couldnt agree more.... Im not even sure he is the best pg in the nba.. Chicago just has a good team that fits his style of play.... he is good.. I dont put him in the great category.... if they didnt have the best record in the nba he wouldnt be getting the mvp hype... Lebron is the mvp of the nba.

I actually like Russell Westbrook more than Rose:)
 

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