Anyone else notice the new Leaf listings today?

[nyc3]

So bsically you guys will continue to accept cards that have no logos or team names and that have uniforms that look like something a cheap high school wears?

Are you going to keep dropping that stupid high school jersey line until its funny? We heard you and dont care.

 

[MartinFFcollector]

So bsically you guys will continue to accept cards that have no logos or team names and that have uniforms that look like something a cheap high school wears?

Buy them or dont. What's the big deal?

 

[sportscardtheory]

So bsically you guys will continue to accept cards that have no logos or team names and that have uniforms that look like something a cheap high school wears?

Are you implying that there is a choice. If these leagues won't give out licenses, then companies that want to continue making cards will have to do so unlicensed. It's not rocket science. If you don't like them, don't buy them. No one cares.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

With Leaf and Panini cards going cheaply -- as compared to Topps/Bowman autos -- is there a marketplace for the unautographed card anymore? I mean, look at Bowman Chrome non-autos -- golds are $10-15 of decent prospects whereas they used to be $50-75. The non-auto'ed card seems to be hurting.

Probably not for minor league players. By comparison the market is better for decent MLB players but perhaps not much; MLB players are more collectible.

Further add that more people are really auto collectors and not card collectors.

 

[BiggioBrooks755]

Are you implying that there is a choice. If these leagues won't give out licenses, then companies that want to continue making cards will have to do so unlicensed. It's not rocket science. If you don't like them, don't buy them. No one cares.

No sir...Your comment should have said this "If these leagues wont give out licenses, then compaines should try harder and put more effort into getting a license."

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

So bsically you guys will continue to accept cards that have no logos or team names and that have uniforms that look like something a cheap high school wears?

Licensing and logos are currently overrated for what they really offer.

They're something many people are currently socialized into believing is important and special... mostly by people who sell licenses and logos. So today major card manufacturers have a smorgasbord/mash-up/mess of different types and combination of licensing (MLBPA, MLBP, individual player, etc).

If the hobby starts to become overrun and saturated with too many manufacturers (licensed or NOT) ... then licensing will become more important again.

 

[deaconblues63]

No sir...Your comment should have said this "If these leagues wont give out licenses, then compaines should try harder and put more effort into getting a license."

What exactly should these companies do to "try harder" to get a license?

 

[sportscardtheory]

No sir...Your comment should have said this "If these leagues wont give out licenses, then compaines should try harder and put more effort into getting a license."

:lol:

Carry on.

 

[BiggioBrooks755]

What exactly should these companies do to "try harder" to get a license?

How did Topps get a license?

 

[cgilmo]

How did Topps get a license?

By being the cornerstone od this industry since 1952

 

[Dilferules]

How did Topps get a license?

Topps started in 1951, the licensing landscape was a little different. They bought their only major competitor after a "war". When another possible competitor showed up they fought them with player contracts and court battles, eventually becoming the only company that was able to sell MLB cards in packs and with gum. By the time competitors won the right to make sets, Topps had been around for 30 years and was not going anywhere.

If you mean how did they get their current exclusive license, I would imagine a combination of throwing money at MLB and convincing them that more than one manufacturer was causing market confusion and THAT was why kids weren't collecting anymore. MLB always falls for that stuff.

Oh and by the way a large number of people agree with you that the unlicensed cards are ugly or not as good as fully licensed cards with team logos. That's why they sell for less money than fully licensed cards. Look at sales on ebay. Look at the prices for a box of Elite Extra with 6+ autos compared to a box of Bowman Draft with 1 auto.

 

[BiggioBrooks755]

Topps started in 1951, the licensing landscape was a little different. They bought their only major competitor after a "war". When another possible competitor showed up they fought them with player contracts and court battles, eventually becoming the only company that was able to sell MLB cards in packs and with gum. By the time competitors won the right to make sets, Topps had been around for 30 years and was not going anywhere.

If you mean how did they get their current exclusive license, I would imagine a combination of throwing money at MLB and convincing them that more than one manufacturer was causing market confusion and THAT was why kids weren't collecting anymore. MLB always falls for that stuff.

Oh and by the way a large number of people agree with you that the unlicensed cards are ugly or not as good as fully licensed cards with team logos. That's why they sell for less money than fully licensed cards. Look at sales on ebay. Look at the prices for a box of Elite Extra with 6+ autos compared to a box of Bowman Draft with 1 auto.

Thank you. I wish Panini or Upper Deck or Leaf would take it to MLB and tell them the thurth!

 

[cgilmo]

It should also be noted rhat the topps exclusive contract is almost up.

 

[Moonlight Graham]

The signed bikini photos caught my eye. That's about it.

Gamey used bikini cards?

 

[HPC]

If card compaines are that small then how do they keep producing sports cards?

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Considering Leaf has exclusive autograph rights to the key card in this set, and the hottest NBA rookie...this is hardly a totally unlicensed issue.

Sure, no logos, but we've had that for decades with food issues, etc.



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[BiggioBrooks755]

It should also be noted rhat the topps exclusive contract is almost up.

Is that good news for other compaines, or will they (Topps) just get a new deal?

 

[Dilferules]

It should also be noted rhat the topps exclusive contract is almost up.

That's interesting, I wonder if MLB will grant a license to Panini. I would think Leaf is too small to make a play for it and UD must have pissed off MLB royally with their 2010 set so the odds of them being let back in would seem to be pretty low.

I've always thought Panini's designs were bleh but it'd be nice to have some competition. Maybe MLB would force Topps to make fewer sets if they weren't the only manufacturer. Interesting possibilities.

 

[cgilmo]

Is that good news for other compaines, or will they (Topps) just get a new deal?

No one knows yet

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Is that good news for other compaines, or will they (Topps) just get a new deal?

Who knows...who cares.

I can't foresee any situation where Topps doesn't get a license from MLBP, so it will either be exclusive or not.



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