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All these announcers have done the whole game is try to run down Leach's name and ruin him. This is outrageous. So much for objective reporting.
 

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Not surprised at all. ESPN always bashes anyone who is against them or their staff. The way they tried to trash Harold Reynolds for a hug and how they just spit on Steve Phillips is laughable. I hope Tech vanishes into the meaningless program they once were for crumbling and just turning their back on that guy
 

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I've never seen anything like this. ESPN is supposed to be an objective news source. Thank God for MLB and NFL Network.... I only need ESPN for college news and to watch games.
 

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agree on espn, its a joke how they are trying to stick up for that spoiled brat james kid, its odd how no other players have said it had happened to them
 

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I also think Craig James should be given a leave of absence while this is going on. Paid of course. However, it is a MAJOR conflict of interest to have him still working for ESPN while they are covering this pretty big story. I am a former journalism student, and the lack of ethics that ESPN has been showing is what really gets to me.
 

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cowboysrule48 said:
I also think Craig James should be given a leave of absence while this is going on. Paid of course. However, it is a MAJOR conflict of interest to have him still working for ESPN while they are covering this pretty big story. I am a former journalism student, and the lack of ethics that ESPN has been showing is what really gets to me.

Don't you have to have ethics in order to lack them? ESPN has ZERO ethics!!!
 

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mstng99tim said:
cowboysrule48 said:
I also think Craig James should be given a leave of absence while this is going on. Paid of course. However, it is a MAJOR conflict of interest to have him still working for ESPN while they are covering this pretty big story. I am a former journalism student, and the lack of ethics that ESPN has been showing is what really gets to me.

Don't you have to have ethics in order to lack them? ESPN has ZERO ethics!!!

Isn't that what the word lack means? How can you have something if you lack it?
 

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come on we have all benn watching ESPN during baseball season. if you think they have any kind of objectivity then you havent taken note of the bias to the fracking yankees and red soxs during baseball. to think they can be biased during a story like this is ridiculous.
 

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cowboysrule48 said:
All these announcers have done the whole game is try to run down Leach's name and ruin him. This is outrageous. So much for objective reporting.

I thought Davey has been pretty fair, he described Leach as a good coach and mentioned that parents need to stay out of the football program's business.
 

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I dont think the announcers are trying to down Leach i think they both want him to coach. I just think that this is talked about to much. I think they should just let it go but it wont happen.

On another note this is a really good game.
 

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Adam James is a stuck up little *****.

Just sitting on the side lines like he is the **** ::facepalm::
 

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I've decided to completely hate that kid.

Let's not forget that Craig James was at SMU during the crookedest effin' football administration of all time. It's like Jon Calipari times one trillion (by the way, that guy is so sketch).

ESPN is playing these team admin/doctor sworn affidavits from people that.....wait.... want to keep their effin jobs.

They fired the coach over squat. Does anyone think that the entire administration would do anything other than place blame on leach?

Guh, I hate this kid. TTU wouldn't exist if not for Mike Leach.
 

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I've decided to completely hate that kid.

Let's not forget that Craig James was at SMU during the crookedest effin' football administration of all time. It's like Jon Calipari times one trillion (by the way, that guy is so sketch).

ESPN is playing these team admin/doctor sworn affidavits from people that.....wait.... want to keep their effin jobs.

They fired the coach over squat. Does anyone think that the entire administration would do anything other than place blame on leach?

Guh, I hate this kid. TTU wouldn't exist if not for Mike Leach.

TTU would exist without Leach
They exist now don't they?
He did something wrong. He punished a kid out of spite.
Trying to say they he put the kid in the dark shed to keep him from the sunlight if a joke. Was that the first kid from TTU that ever had a concussion? If not, were any of the other players with concussions ever placed in those 2 locations during practice? If not, why do it now?
He was tired of the kid. He was tired of the dad. As a coach, I have similar situations with helicopter parents and stuck up kids who think they are better than the program. However, I didn't punish the kid just to punish. You either have to get rid of the kid all togther OR walk on egg shells.
He couldn't justify why sending him to those 2 locations was making the kid a better player or teammate. He was just annoyed looking at the kid with his sunglasses on, hat on backwards, and having fun on the sidelines during practice.


We all probably had HS football coaches that "abused" us in one way or another. Like I said in a previous post, my HS FB coaches would punch us in the facemasks, say some of the most ridiculous statements, and were walking lawsuits today. Just because it was done back in the days doesn't mean it was right. As a HS coach today I often have to stop myself when I am lucky enough to catch myself from doing something questionable from the olden days (some of the phrases used by old school coaches, some of the motivating techniques, etc).

What leach did was wrong. Plain and simple. He singled out a player he hated and punished the kid. When he was told to apologize, he tried to challenge the administration and he was squashed
 

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Doesn't every program have a place to send **** disturbers though?

I honestly don't see this as any different than banishing a kid to do sit-ups along-side the practice field, or sending him to the film room. There are definitely certain kids that screw with the demeanor of everyone that's not practicing and having them on the side-lines ends up messing up everyone's practice.

Of all the things coaches do, this seems pretty harmless other than harming the kids ego. Obviously it wasn't done to speed up recovery, but as a form of punishment. I'm not sure why everyone considers it an awful form of punishment, though.

How are you supposed to punish a kid that's being a little brat (I'm not saying James was being totally detrimental, but rather posing a what if)?

Mind you, I prefer guys like Bobby Knight over Calipari.
 

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Glad I didnt see the broadcast...I also forgot to dvr it =(

As for the game. IT was an awesome atmosphere and I had a damn blast. WRECK EM TECH.
 

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pigskincardboard said:
Doesn't every program have a place to send shat disturbers though?

I honestly don't see this as any different than banishing a kid to do sit-ups along-side the practice field, or sending him to the film room. There are definitely certain kids that screw with the demeanor of everyone that's not practicing and having them on the side-lines ends up messing up everyone's practice.

Of all the things coaches do, this seems pretty harmless other than harming the kids ego. Obviously it wasn't done to speed up recovery, but as a form of punishment. I'm not sure why everyone considers it an awful form of punishment, though.



Punish the kid for what?
What was he doing at that particular practice that warranted a punishment of going to the isolated room?
Don't like a hat on backwards? --tell him to take it off
Don't like sunglasses on? --tell him to take them off
Making noises and laughing? ----Yell at him or send him back to the dorm

Running stadium stairs, runnings laps, etc at least can be a form of conditioning. I undertsand that the kid was "injured" and couldn't do the physical punishment but what good is sending him to an isolated shed/garage?

Different programs might have their own form of punishment like the shed/garage but I bet coaches will think twice before they use that strategy any time soon.

How do you punish a kid? ---not with unusual punishment of isolating him the way Leach did.

I'm sure this kid is a tool but you need to separate that when looking at this situation in an administrative way. If the kid was a distraction at the practice, send him home. Leach's actions were punitive. Coaches are supposed to coach, teach, etc and being punitive without having any positive result come from it = lousy. (again at least stadium stairs = conditioning, at least sending to film room = useful, etc)

If Leach would have admitted fault and poor judgement, he most likely would have coached last night


How are you supposed to punish a kid that's being a little brat (I'm not saying James was being totally detrimental, but rather posing a what if)?

Mind you, I prefer guys like Bobby Knight over Calipari.
 

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