Are You In Favor of The Other 103 Names Being Released?

[HPC]

This question has gotten alot of attention over the last few days. I hear alot of athletes saying yes, alot of writers saying no, and more people from both who cant seem to find a side.

Personally, I am in favor of the names being released. However, what I am NOT in favor of, is punishing the players for something they did when it was not banned by baseball.

The premise that all of this was supposed to be anonymous, yes, I understand that part very well, and that is where I say that players should not be punished for taking something, that even A-Rod said "could be purchased at GNC back then, that is illegal now". Anyone who works out actively knows he isnt lying about that, as Andro and/or components of it were on their shelves until about 2004-05

However, because of either someone's "insurance plan", personal vendetta, feelings, etc, the samples and lists werent destroyed, and are now part of the government's collection. Because of the government seizure, there are ways this information can, and more than likely will be made public very soon.

A-Rod shouldnt be the only one who possibly loses his vote for the HOF because of this, and I personally would love to see the names of the people who were positive.

It will help guys who might not have had a great chance of making the HOF before because they played clean, and it will help by moving forward the steroid issue.

Just one man's opinion, sorry if it was posted, still sick and wanted to chat about something.

 

[Therion]

I say yes so that we can get another 103 people apologizing for getting caught.

 

[Pete14Rose]

It really doesn't matter to me. I just see everyone as having used.

 

[rico08]

You simply cannot have it this way; nobody can.

Once a player is linked, alleged, suspected, admitted, or tested positive for PEDs of any kind he is punished. It may not be with a fine or suspension but his name is forever tarnished and associated with cheating.

My curiosity is trying to get the best of me but I voted "no."

Personally, I am in favor of the names being released. However, what I am NOT in favor of, is punishing the players for something they did when it was not banned by baseball.

 

[mredsox89]

I say yes only because they released A-rods name. Prior to the SI report, i was fully against releasing any names as they were tested with full confidentiality but if A-rod has to pay so do the rest of the players who tried to take advantage of a system without rules. There should be no official punishment, the punishment of the public opinion is plenty. A-rod will have a chance to rebuild his reputation over the next 10 years in NY unlike Bonds, Mcgwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, who all admitted/had speculation about steroids at the end of their career.

I also think the players who didnt use want it to come out so much of the speculation can go away.

 

[Guest]

Hell Yes. anyone that has been linked to juicing will never get in the Hall plan and simple.
So release every one of them so the hall can have no one getting in say 10 years.

 

[HPC]

You simply cannot have it this way; nobody can.

Once a player is linked, alleged, suspected, admitted, or tested positive for PEDs of any kind he is punished. It may not be with a fine or suspension but his name is forever tarnished and associated with cheating.

My curiosity is trying to get the best of me but I voted "no."

Personally, I am in favor of the names being released. However, what I am NOT in favor of, is punishing the players for something they did when it was not banned by baseball.

Im speaking on a punitive level: fines, suspension, etc.

the proverbial "court of public opinion" will deal with it separately.

 

[JoshHamilton]

No, because my cable bill would shoot through the roof after ESPN created nine new networks to cover the story for the next 18 months

 

[moxacaine]

I voted no just because i dont care if they took roids.

 

[Kevbo]

one way to get past this juice era black eye is to get it in the open, sort it out, deal with it, and move on. Show the fans that there's no secrecy or protection, that baseball AND baseball players are done with it, against it, and that they themselves have moved on. The fans can't move on until MLB and MLBPA does.
Also, a line should be drawn as to whether these guys took a supplement that was fine and legal at one time, or that they shot up steriods. It's a huge difference to me if a player took a gnc supplement that I myself might have taken - or if he took a shot from canseco's syringe.

I know this list wasn't intended to be punitive, and I think the fans know it, but instead of guessing and wondering for the rest of our lives, just put it out there so we can get to the end of the era.

 

[rico08]

There will NEVER be transparency when it comes to the Steroid Era. The other 103 names aren't the only players who ever have or ever will test positive for performance enhancing drugs.

Releasing names won't do anything but breed more speculation.

 

[i43770]

I voted yes, just because I am curious. I assume the reason that we haven't heard about any others is because they are probably players of little significance to the game. If Arods name was released, most likely other players, if not all of them, have been released to media outlets as well. They just realized that nobody cares if random backup third baseman did steroids or HGH.

I agree that they shouldn't be fined or suspended for doing something that wasn't banned in baseball, but why would baseball be testing for something that isn't banned. That seems like a waste of time and money.

One thing I have never understood about steroids is, if it is illegal, but not banned in baseball, why don't they just have the players arrested?

 

[Craig - 21hawk]

As I said in the other thread about this question: I don't want to see MLB sued into oblivion by the MLBPA for violating the agreement, so no.

Also, I believe it was 200lbhockeyplayer who added that these are just the 104 players dumb enough not to stop taking steroids when the testing started. It tells us nothing.

Craig

 

[JoshHamilton]

One thing I have never understood about steroids is, if it is illegal, but not banned in baseball, why don't they just have the players arrested?

For the same reason the FBI didn't bust Josh Hamilton when they knew he was using coke at his parents' house.

They're going after the root of the source: the distributors

 

[fengzhang]

I voted yes, just because I am curious. I assume the reason that we haven't heard about any others is because they are probably players of little significance to the game. If Arods name was released, most likely other players, if not all of them, have been released to media outlets as well. They just realized that nobody cares if random backup third baseman did steroids or HGH.

I agree that they shouldn't be fined or suspended for doing something that wasn't banned in baseball, but why would baseball be testing for something that isn't banned. That seems like a waste of time and money.

One thing I have never understood about steroids is, if it is illegal, but not banned in baseball, why don't they just have the players arrested?

Not worth the trouble. It's like if you're caught drinking underaged on a college campus. Slap on the wrist, most of the time, not even that. That's why I've been saying that you can't rely on the federal government to enforce steroid usage for you.

 

[bigpapiMA32]

I say yes only because they released A-rods name. Prior to the SI report, i was fully against releasing any names as they were tested with full confidentiality but if A-rod has to pay so do the rest of the players who tried to take advantage of a system without rules. There should be no official punishment, the punishment of the public opinion is plenty. A-rod will have a chance to rebuild his reputation over the next 10 years in NY unlike Bonds, Mcgwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, who all admitted/had speculation about steroids at the end of their career.

I also think the players who didnt use want it to come out so much of the speculation can go away.

+1

I've hated Arod more than any other player in baseball before this whole thing, and now more after, but the fact that he is the only one whose name is released, basically because SI can make the most money off him, is outrageous.

I also agree that there shouldn't be any punishment.

 

[HPC]

Did anyone else catch the full interview?

He mentioned the reporter was cited (or arrested?) multiple times for stalking him and has been trespassed off the UoM campus, and his house?

 

[Guest]

Did anyone else catch the full interview?

He mentioned the reporter was cited (or arrested?) multiple times for stalking him and has been trespassed off the UoM campus, and his house?

Which on e the guy or the girl who wrote the piece.
Selena Roberts, David Epstein

 

[Penno]

I'm not in favor of everyone's name being released due to ARod's name being released, I don't believe that right at all. However, I think the public deserves to know who has cheated, but that wasn't part of the deal when the MLBPA agreed to take the tests.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

It's in no way a complete list and I don't want it marketed as such...so no, don't release it.

Releasing it will serve no purpose. None whatsoever.