Enfuego79
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Whether its deserving or not, Roids is not a skill developer, but more of a Charge
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Whether its deserving or not, Roids is not a skill developer, but more of a Charge
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I should have been more specific.Will his rookies ever be worth anything again?
It is also against the rules of baseball and against the law!
I think most big players have gone through an explosion phase, where their stuff climbs well above what a reasonable price might be. Most then came down hard after a while. With non-vintage, non-SP, non-low serial numbered and/or autographed rookies, I think the market will always settle. Vintage will continue to climb with the lesser quantities and especially those in top shape and the artificially rare rookies of the modern market will all remain in pristine shape, but were issued in lower quantities to begin with to ensure future collectibility. That leaves the middle, the overproduced 80s-90s, which will probably never be worth much after the initial spikes and drops.
I don't think this was ever really considered a true rookie card, but I remember how exciting this card was, as it was a time sensitive redemption from a product adversely affected by the 94 baseball strike. At one point they were selling for $500+.
I am not denying that; however, I am just saying that ppl often get confused with the fact that steroids does not improve learned skills regardless of sport, it just gives the user a "2nd Wind" if you will.
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Not sure what you mean by second wind. Do you mean a boost? because roids will build muscle mass all over the body if taken improper like these guys do. Steroids is a muscle builder.
I got that, but we don't see AROD looking like Arnold in anyway, plus the man had 2 hip surgeries.
Depends on how much you take where and how much you work out. Maybe Aroid would of been half his size without them. One will never know. if he had hip surgeries then a doc would work on the muscles around the hips to help them grow. He didn't do that.....
You definitely hate steroids very much without knowing much about them. It totally depends on how much you work out. There aren't magical. They do not produce muscle bu themselves. They stimulate the muscle growth with workouts.
That's what I said
So you like illegal drugs? You support the usage of illegal drugs.. oh well...
I sense a lot of jumping on the "band wagon" going on regarding hating on AROD. Me personally, we make mistakes, we try to cover mistakes, hell..we lie about our mistakes. So I assume that everything positive any man does is buried after one maybe two mishaps or bad decisions...
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You actually feel this is new and a bandwagon going on? It's been going on for years n years...
As to ARod , look I think his stats are incredible , but you do realize people are criticizing what your calling "positive" because they think his "mistakes" are what caused the "positives" to occur? And he lied multiple times about that "mistake" which people think led to the "positive". Again I think ARod is one of the best players I ever watched, but I don't live under a rock where I can't see why people are disgusted with him. If your just now sensing the hate, I'm not sure where you've been.
Ryan
I like the quote website George posted and it shows cheating has been going on 70 years it's just the news and internet makes it where you can't hide if you are cheating. Another member also said if 70% of baseball was doing the same thing what kind of advantage did he really have over the others and you have to assume everyone was taking PED's just only a few have been caught. I think some day they will let Arod, Bonds, McGwire and all the others who have been caught cheating in the Hall Of Fame but it will probably be 20 years from now or longer. The thing is in the 90's when McGwire, Sosa and Griffey were hitting all those homeruns baseball was hurting after the strike and they brought people back into the stands with the homeruns they were hitting. Baseball didn't mind they and turned away until years later.
I think most big players have gone through an explosion phase, where their stuff climbs well above what a reasonable price might be. Most then came down hard after a while. With non-vintage, non-SP, non-low serial numbered and/or autographed rookies, I think the market will always settle. Vintage will continue to climb with the lesser quantities and especially those in top shape and the artificially rare rookies of the modern market will all remain in pristine shape, but were issued in lower quantities to begin with to ensure future collectibility. That leaves the middle, the overproduced 80s-90s, which will probably never be worth much after the initial spikes and drops.
I don't think this was ever really considered a true rookie card, but I remember how exciting this card was, as it was a time sensitive redemption from a product adversely affected by the 94 baseball strike. At one point they were selling for $500+.