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I liked it a lot more when BA thought all Astros prospects sucked. At least I can still get Castro stuff cheap.
 

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trevordchi said:
I liked it a lot more when BA thought all Astros prospects sucked. At least I can still get Castro stuff cheap.

Andrew (York, PA): Thanks for the chat. In your estimation, do the Astros still have the worst farm system in the game, or has the performance/emergence of some of their prospects (Castro, Lyles, Norris, etc.) bumped them up a few spots?

J.J. Cooper: If we were ranking again right now, the Astros would not rank last. Castro, Lyles, Norris, heck throw in Jon Gaston, have all had very impressive seasons. They aren't top 5 or anything, but it's a better system than it appeared at the start of the season.
 

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Jaypers said:
trevordchi said:
I liked it a lot more when BA thought all Astros prospects sucked. At least I can still get Castro stuff cheap.

Andrew (York, PA): Thanks for the chat. In your estimation, do the Astros still have the worst farm system in the game, or has the performance/emergence of some of their prospects (Castro, Lyles, Norris, etc.) bumped them up a few spots?

J.J. Cooper: If we were ranking again right now, the Astros would not rank last. Castro, Lyles, Norris, heck throw in Jon Gaston, have all had very impressive seasons. They aren't top 5 or anything, but it's a better system than it appeared at the start of the season.

I know he doesn't have the K totals, but I think Seaton will be every bit as good as Lyles.
 

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One of my aliases made it. :D


Michael Taylor (Reading): You guys are REALLY hard to predict. I absolutely raked the week before last, got robbed of a Hot Sheet appearance because of the "holiday version", but didn't do quite as well this past week and as a result, I missed my chance. Would you call me Philly's #1 overall prospect at this point, or does Dom Brown still own that title?

J.J. Cooper: I'd still go with Brown because of the age difference (Brown is two years younger), Brown's better speed and better defense in right. But it's nitpicking as both are among the top 25 prospects in baseball.
 

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yay Spruill/Heyward

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Has Alex Liddi made a BA sheet yet? .355 20HR 73RBI ( I know JP..he's in the Cal League) ,but he's still been beasting this year. Along with the rest of the High Desert Mavericks.
He hasn't made it because BA hates Italians.
 

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cgilmo said:
trevordchi said:
I liked it a lot more when BA thought all Astros prospects sucked. At least I can still get Castro stuff cheap.


and you probably wouldn't be able to say that if he had a chrome auto

I can't wait until he does. I haven't seen any metals in person but I'm definitely not going after anything else Razor makes. Sig Series was just fugly.
 

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Jaypers said:
One of my aliases made it. :D


Michael Taylor (Reading): You guys are REALLY hard to predict. I absolutely raked the week before last, got robbed of a Hot Sheet appearance because of the "holiday version", but didn't do quite as well this past week and as a result, I missed my chance. Would you call me Philly's #1 overall prospect at this point, or does Dom Brown still own that title?

J.J. Cooper: I'd still go with Brown because of the age difference (Brown is two years younger), Brown's better speed and better defense in right. But it's nitpicking as both are among the top 25 prospects in baseball.

That was you? :lol: I just read the chat (& the hot sheet as I just arrived home) & before reading it I actually wrote close to the same thing under "Michael Taylor, Location: Reading"...after I submitted it I went ahead & read through the Question's & Answer's & saw the one above posted! :lol: Good stuff man, I bet that guy was wondering why Michael Taylor kept writing in! :D
As for your question between Brown & Taylor (I didn't ask this in my entry, I only asked where Taylor would have ranked in the Hot Sheet last week) I'm a bit puzzled with the answer given as to the reason's why he would choose Brown (& I'm betting that either this guy doesn't follow the Phillies farm team's or just really hasn't followed Taylor). I say this because Taylor has a plus arm (possibly plus-plus) in the OF & plays excellent "D" & although Brown may be a little quicker, Taylor has very good speed (& not just very good for his size, he's alot quicker than many guy's quite a bit smaller than him). Another fact I don't think is being brought up when comparing the 2 is Taylor is producing at a higher level of play while in AA than Brown is producing in High-A (& while Brown is younger than Taylor, he also has been playing pro ball longer than Taylor has). Anyhow, as the guy says there really isn't much of a difference & both will be in BA's top 25 prospects (which is HUGE considering M.Taylor wasn't in the top 100 last year...I'm pretty sure he wasn't?.?.? But it really all boils down to thier opinion & I'm just happy they have decided to finally admit thier skepticism of Taylor & will hopefully cease to down-play Taylor's production across the board, as it has been "off-the-chart's" for quite sometime now! :D
 

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trevordchi said:
Jaypers said:
trevordchi said:
I liked it a lot more when BA thought all Astros prospects sucked. At least I can still get Castro stuff cheap.

Andrew (York, PA): Thanks for the chat. In your estimation, do the Astros still have the worst farm system in the game, or has the performance/emergence of some of their prospects (Castro, Lyles, Norris, etc.) bumped them up a few spots?

J.J. Cooper: If we were ranking again right now, the Astros would not rank last. Castro, Lyles, Norris, heck throw in Jon Gaston, have all had very impressive seasons. They aren't top 5 or anything, but it's a better system than it appeared at the start of the season.

I know he doesn't have the K totals, but I think Seaton will be every bit as good as Lyles.

I myself, like Seaton better, but honestly the K totals hes put up are alarming, but hes been very good this season, but hes been overshadowed by Lyles (who I'm also a big fan of)
 

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Jaypers said:
One of my aliases made it. :D


Michael Taylor (Reading): You guys are REALLY hard to predict. I absolutely raked the week before last, got robbed of a Hot Sheet appearance because of the "holiday version", but didn't do quite as well this past week and as a result, I missed my chance. Would you call me Philly's #1 overall prospect at this point, or does Dom Brown still own that title?

J.J. Cooper: I'd still go with Brown because of the age difference (Brown is two years younger), Brown's better speed and better defense in right. But it's nitpicking as both are among the top 25 prospects in baseball.

This is why B.A. sucks. How can Cooper look people in the face and tell you that a guy on the DL is better than a man with production? Taylor is your number one hands down.
 

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jbone17 said:
Jaypers said:
One of my aliases made it. :D


Michael Taylor (Reading): You guys are REALLY hard to predict. I absolutely raked the week before last, got robbed of a Hot Sheet appearance because of the "holiday version", but didn't do quite as well this past week and as a result, I missed my chance. Would you call me Philly's #1 overall prospect at this point, or does Dom Brown still own that title?

J.J. Cooper: I'd still go with Brown because of the age difference (Brown is two years younger), Brown's better speed and better defense in right. But it's nitpicking as both are among the top 25 prospects in baseball.

This is why B.A. sucks. How can Cooper look people in the face and tell you that a guy on the DL is better than a man with production? Taylor is your number one hands down.


No he isnt, for reasons that have been posted many times. This isnt really a shot at taylor but more about how good Brown could be.
 

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jbone17 said:
Jaypers said:
One of my aliases made it. :D


Michael Taylor (Reading): You guys are REALLY hard to predict. I absolutely raked the week before last, got robbed of a Hot Sheet appearance because of the "holiday version", but didn't do quite as well this past week and as a result, I missed my chance. Would you call me Philly's #1 overall prospect at this point, or does Dom Brown still own that title?

J.J. Cooper: I'd still go with Brown because of the age difference (Brown is two years younger), Brown's better speed and better defense in right. But it's nitpicking as both are among the top 25 prospects in baseball.

This is why B.A. sucks. How can Cooper look people in the face and tell you that a guy on the DL is better than a man with production? Taylor is your number one hands down.

So, basically your line of thinking is if Albert Pujols went on the DL annd
Mark DeRosa starts to rake, then obviously Mark DeRosa is better than Ablert Pujols.
 

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phillyfan0417 said:
jbone17 said:
Jaypers said:
One of my aliases made it. :D


Michael Taylor (Reading): You guys are REALLY hard to predict. I absolutely raked the week before last, got robbed of a Hot Sheet appearance because of the "holiday version", but didn't do quite as well this past week and as a result, I missed my chance. Would you call me Philly's #1 overall prospect at this point, or does Dom Brown still own that title?

J.J. Cooper: I'd still go with Brown because of the age difference (Brown is two years younger), Brown's better speed and better defense in right. But it's nitpicking as both are among the top 25 prospects in baseball.

This is why B.A. sucks. How can Cooper look people in the face and tell you that a guy on the DL is better than a man with production? Taylor is your number one hands down.


No he isnt, for reasons that have been posted many times. This isnt really a shot at taylor but more about how good Brown could be.

I understand how speculation rules the prospect world, but the underlined is what my beef is with. Dominic Brown's "ceiling" when he goes to AA will be M.Taylor's current stat-line or level of production (that's most likely about as good as he could be, what Taylor is actually "doing" right now).... So how does Brown = a better prospect than Taylor when Taylor's production is most likely his ceiling? Also, who said Taylor's done progressing??? It looks to me that Taylor has increased production & improved in every level promotion he's received, so what's to stop him from continuing that progression & taking it to a whole other level??? This is why it's baffling when some try to say that Brown has more upside than Taylor (I understand those invested in Brown want his SV's to catch up to Taylor's but c'mon guy's...) :D
 

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soxrchamps07 said:
jbone17 said:
Jaypers said:
One of my aliases made it. :D


Michael Taylor (Reading): You guys are REALLY hard to predict. I absolutely raked the week before last, got robbed of a Hot Sheet appearance because of the "holiday version", but didn't do quite as well this past week and as a result, I missed my chance. Would you call me Philly's #1 overall prospect at this point, or does Dom Brown still own that title?

J.J. Cooper: I'd still go with Brown because of the age difference (Brown is two years younger), Brown's better speed and better defense in right. But it's nitpicking as both are among the top 25 prospects in baseball.

This is why B.A. sucks. How can Cooper look people in the face and tell you that a guy on the DL is better than a man with production? Taylor is your number one hands down.

So, basically your line of thinking is if Albert Pujols went on the DL annd
Mark DeRosa starts to rake, then obviously Mark DeRosa is better than Ablert Pujols.

That is not what I am saying. It is different when you are talking about major leaguers. Do you think I am stupid or something lol. That is not even a fair comparison because Pujols is a star and Derosa is a utility type player. Taylor is a prospect who has done nothing but mash the ball. I love Dominic Brown don't get me wrong, but it is what he could be. Ceiling over production when you are talking about minor leaguers is overrated.
 

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Nice to see the lower Brewers' pitching prospects get noticed. Too bad none of them have an releases. It's even WORSE that they are all about 2-3 years away from helping.
 

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jbone17 said:
soxrchamps07 said:
jbone17 said:
Jaypers said:
One of my aliases made it. :D


Michael Taylor (Reading): You guys are REALLY hard to predict. I absolutely raked the week before last, got robbed of a Hot Sheet appearance because of the "holiday version", but didn't do quite as well this past week and as a result, I missed my chance. Would you call me Philly's #1 overall prospect at this point, or does Dom Brown still own that title?

J.J. Cooper: I'd still go with Brown because of the age difference (Brown is two years younger), Brown's better speed and better defense in right. But it's nitpicking as both are among the top 25 prospects in baseball.

This is why B.A. sucks. How can Cooper look people in the face and tell you that a guy on the DL is better than a man with production? Taylor is your number one hands down.

So, basically your line of thinking is if Albert Pujols went on the DL annd
Mark DeRosa starts to rake, then obviously Mark DeRosa is better than Ablert Pujols.

That is not what I am saying. It is different when you are talking about major leaguers. Do you think I am stupid or something lol. That is not even a fair comparison because Pujols is a star and Derosa is a utility type player. Taylor is a prospect who has done nothing but mash the ball. I love Dominic Brown don't get me wrong, but it is what he could be. Ceiling over production when you are talking about minor leaguers is overrated.

First, my comment was sarcasm, I was just exagerating a lame reason for Taylor being better than Brown. Do you seem to forget that before Brown went on the DL he was absolutley raking, hitting around .330 and with an Isolated power of .241 and improving pretty much every aspect of his game in the Florida State League no less. Michael Taylor has also raked this year, but for Brown to be 2 years younger and have a higher ceiling than Taylor, you can see why BA is giving the edge to Brown.
 

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soxrchamps07 said:
jbone17 said:
soxrchamps07 said:
jbone17 said:
Jaypers said:
One of my aliases made it. :D


Michael Taylor (Reading): You guys are REALLY hard to predict. I absolutely raked the week before last, got robbed of a Hot Sheet appearance because of the "holiday version", but didn't do quite as well this past week and as a result, I missed my chance. Would you call me Philly's #1 overall prospect at this point, or does Dom Brown still own that title?

J.J. Cooper: I'd still go with Brown because of the age difference (Brown is two years younger), Brown's better speed and better defense in right. But it's nitpicking as both are among the top 25 prospects in baseball.

This is why B.A. sucks. How can Cooper look people in the face and tell you that a guy on the DL is better than a man with production? Taylor is your number one hands down.

So, basically your line of thinking is if Albert Pujols went on the DL annd
Mark DeRosa starts to rake, then obviously Mark DeRosa is better than Ablert Pujols.

That is not what I am saying. It is different when you are talking about major leaguers. Do you think I am stupid or something lol. That is not even a fair comparison because Pujols is a star and Derosa is a utility type player. Taylor is a prospect who has done nothing but mash the ball. I love Dominic Brown don't get me wrong, but it is what he could be. Ceiling over production when you are talking about minor leaguers is overrated.

First, my comment was sarcasm, I was just exagerating a lame reason for Taylor being better than Brown. Do you seem to forget that before Brown went on the DL he was absolutley raking, hitting around .330 and with an Isolated power of .241 and improving pretty much every aspect of his game in the Florida State League no less. Michael Taylor has also raked this year, but for Brown to be 2 years younger and have a higher ceiling than Taylor, you can see why BA is giving the edge to Brown.

Just curious, who originally interpretted M.Taylor's "ceiling"??? If you're going by what BA came up with as his initial ceiling then that isn't saying much given that they themselves have admitted they were skeptical of Taylor from the get-go (Taylor's already surpassed that of the ceiling that BA established for him by leading the AA Eastern league in overall offense; and BA didn't think Taylor would produce in AA as he did in High-A yet he's IMPROVED in almost EVERY ASPECT of the game)!
When it comes down to it, Michael Taylor IS D.Brown's ceiling for potential & production (Brown hasn't been better than Taylor at Low-A nor Hi-A, & BA's only excuse to cover thier arse on them blowing the call on thier ranking's & speculation of the 2 prospect's is age difference...which IMO is rather shallow)! :D
 

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HoustonTeams4Me said:
soxrchamps07 said:
jbone17 said:
soxrchamps07 said:
jbone17 said:
[quote="Jaypers":6yfyqh67]One of my aliases made it. :D


Michael Taylor (Reading): You guys are REALLY hard to predict. I absolutely raked the week before last, got robbed of a Hot Sheet appearance because of the "holiday version", but didn't do quite as well this past week and as a result, I missed my chance. Would you call me Philly's #1 overall prospect at this point, or does Dom Brown still own that title?

J.J. Cooper: I'd still go with Brown because of the age difference (Brown is two years younger), Brown's better speed and better defense in right. But it's nitpicking as both are among the top 25 prospects in baseball.

This is why B.A. sucks. How can Cooper look people in the face and tell you that a guy on the DL is better than a man with production? Taylor is your number one hands down.

So, basically your line of thinking is if Albert Pujols went on the DL annd
Mark DeRosa starts to rake, then obviously Mark DeRosa is better than Ablert Pujols.

That is not what I am saying. It is different when you are talking about major leaguers. Do you think I am stupid or something lol. That is not even a fair comparison because Pujols is a star and Derosa is a utility type player. Taylor is a prospect who has done nothing but mash the ball. I love Dominic Brown don't get me wrong, but it is what he could be. Ceiling over production when you are talking about minor leaguers is overrated.

First, my comment was sarcasm, I was just exagerating a lame reason for Taylor being better than Brown. Do you seem to forget that before Brown went on the DL he was absolutley raking, hitting around .330 and with an Isolated power of .241 and improving pretty much every aspect of his game in the Florida State League no less. Michael Taylor has also raked this year, but for Brown to be 2 years younger and have a higher ceiling than Taylor, you can see why BA is giving the edge to Brown.

Just curious, who originally interpretted M.Taylor's "ceiling"??? If you're going by what BA came up with as his initial ceiling then that isn't saying much given that they themselves have admitted they were skeptical of Taylor from the get-go (Taylor's already surpassed that of the ceiling that BA established for him by leading the AA Eastern league in overall offense; and BA didn't think Taylor would produce in AA as he did in High-A yet he's IMPROVED in almost EVERY ASPECT of the game)!
When it comes down to it, Michael Taylor IS D.Brown's ceiling for potential & production (Brown hasn't been better than Taylor at Low-A nor Hi-A, & BA's only excuse to cover thier arse on them blowing the call on thier ranking's & speculation of the 2 prospect's is age difference...which IMO is rather shallow)! :D[/quote:6yfyqh67]


Man, some folks are so hard headed or dont really understand how ceiling is determined.


Dominic Brown has played fewer games at High A when compared with Michael Taylor. Looking at the numbers, they are pretty much the same. Michael Taylor has played alot more baseball than Dominic Brown including MAJOR college baseball at Stanford. Dominic Brown was a football player on his way to Miami when the SAT's got in the way.

Dominic Brown is considered the better prospect beecause he's younger and still developing. Like i've said several times, this is not a slam of Taylor.
 

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