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BA's 2011 Milb Player of the Year Announced

Did BA Make the Right Decision?


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Jaypers

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hail2thevictors said:
Jaypers-I'm just going to put it out there, you need to stop acting like a baby about this stuff. You put your opinion out there to be criticized, and then when someone makes a post saying "here is why they chose Trout" you act like a spoiled brat, and stop posting for the day, 2 days, etc. It's silly man-if you are going to put your opinion out there, you need to understand there are going to be people who disagree with you. Don't run away from it, accept it as a differing opinion.

There are many people who appreciate your contributions to this forum, but your monthly hiatuses are getting a bit old. How many times are you going to spend a day, 2 days, etc off the board because someone disagrees with you?

Just take it for what it is-people are going to disagree. No reason to act childish about it, you are very well liked around here, but this act is starting to get old.

I joined this board not to argue relentlessly with others here (trust me, I have better things to do), but to react and express my opinion. I didn't have the opportunity to dig up all the facts that WJCIII posted earlier.

That's my agenda. If it makes people happy to simply call me a brat or a crybaby, they're welcome to it. I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with me - especially the Mods, since they're the ones who do it most often.
 

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Jaypers said:
hail2thevictors said:
Jaypers-I'm just going to put it out there, you need to stop acting like a baby about this stuff. You put your opinion out there to be criticized, and then when someone makes a post saying "here is why they chose Trout" you act like a spoiled brat, and stop posting for the day, 2 days, etc. It's silly man-if you are going to put your opinion out there, you need to understand there are going to be people who disagree with you. Don't run away from it, accept it as a differing opinion.

There are many people who appreciate your contributions to this forum, but your monthly hiatuses are getting a bit old. How many times are you going to spend a day, 2 days, etc off the board because someone disagrees with you?

Just take it for what it is-people are going to disagree. No reason to act childish about it, you are very well liked around here, but this act is starting to get old.

I joined this board not to argue relentlessly with others here (trust me, I have better things to do), but to react and express my opinion. I didn't have the opportunity to dig up all the facts that WJCIII posted earlier.

That's my agenda. If it makes people happy to simply call me a brat or a crybaby, they're welcome to it. I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with me - especially the Mods, since they're the ones who do it most often.



Whatever JP, if you dont feel you have the time to post and then give some facts to back up your point, then perhaps keep that opinion to yourself or ignore the responses. Your reaction to Adam's response clearly shows what it being pointed out.
 

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phillyfan0417 said:
Whatever JP, if you dont feel you have the time to post and then give some facts to back up your point, then perhaps keep that opinion to yourself or ignore the responses. Your reaction to Adam's response clearly shows what it being pointed out.

Just as your response proved mine. If the TOS forbids me to simply react, feel free to point it out to me. As I said, I have no problem with the responses.
 

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Jaypers said:
phillyfan0417 said:
Whatever JP, if you dont feel you have the time to post and then give some facts to back up your point, then perhaps keep that opinion to yourself or ignore the responses. Your reaction to Adam's response clearly shows what it being pointed out.

Just as your response proved mine. If the TOS forbids me to simply react, feel free to point it out to me. As I said, I have no problem with the responses.


Oh, absolutely. I must need to get my head examined.

(Hey Will, case closed.)

My job is now done here.



I'm glad JP, respond whatever way you'd like.
 

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From a marketing standpoint BA is genious in picking Mike Trout as everyone in the know (here or otherwise) is now reading through the articles, chats, etc on Trout being picked instead of the odds on favorite in Moore as I and some others would have expected. Their site traffic and page views must be through the roof today. Look out for Nolan Arenado to be in the running next year as he will be out of the California League and be able to continue to rake without getting the * for being in the California League.
 

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phillyfan0417 said:
I'm glad JP, respond whatever way you'd like.

Sure thing. How's the weather where you are? 8-)

Anyway, back to the topic of this thread.
 

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Count me in the group shocked to see the award not go to Moore. I can't really pull up the numbers as Im on my phone, but I would have thought this decision would be unanimous. I guess we know who will more than likely be crowned BA's top prospect next february assuming he doesn't exhaust his prospect status, so I'll say it again like last offseason, buy some Trout.
 

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bballcardkid said:
Count me in the group shocked to see the award not go to Moore. I can't really pull up the numbers as Im on my phone, but I would have thought this decision would be unanimous. I guess we know who will more than likely be crowned BA's top prospect next february assuming he doesn't exhaust his prospect status, so I'll say it again like last offseason, buy some Trout.


Yeah I'm shocked as well, I thought it was a slam dunk for Moore this year with how dominant he has been all year, and especially with the way his numbers actually improved when he went from Double-A to Triple-A. The way I see it, Trout had a great year but wasn't THE Player of the Year in the Minors.
 

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Arguing that Trout gets the edge because of his age seems silly to me. I don't see how that should factor into the equation when determining a Player of the Year. I understand why it would matter when creating a top prospects list, but it just doesn't make sense that it would be considered when naming a Player of the Year. Shocking that Moore was overlooked.
 

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It's obvious that the player must be one of the top prospects in MiLB to get the Baseball America award. Otherwise AAAA guys like Bryan LaHair would probably be deserving of the award over both Trout and Moore: .330 Avg, 1.070 OPS, 38 2B, 38 HR, 108 RBI in 129 AAA games. I'm not saying LaHair is a live prospect or someone to be excited about, but if it were simply about production I doubt anyone's numbers are too much better than his at the highest level of MiLB. However, BA wouldn't sell many magazines or web subscriptions by naming a guy like him as their POY. It also probably feels good for them to give the award to the guy they named the #2 overall prospect in the game.
 

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James52411 said:
It's obvious that the player must be one of the top prospects in MiLB to get the Baseball America award. Otherwise AAAA guys like Bryan LaHair would probably be deserving of the award over both Trout and Moore: .330 Avg, 1.070 OPS, 38 2B, 38 HR, 108 RBI in 129 AAA games. I'm not saying LaHair is a live prospect or someone to be excited about, but if it were simply about production I doubt anyone's numbers are too much better than his at the highest level of MiLB. However, BA wouldn't sell many magazines or web subscriptions by naming a guy like him as their POY. It also probably feels good for them to give the award to the guy they named the #2 overall prospect in the game.

This is my point - I don't see a problem with that. If he's the best player that year without being a prospect, more power to him!
 

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JEA2880 said:
Arguing that Trout gets the edge because of his age seems silly to me. I don't see how that should factor into the equation when determining a Player of the Year. I understand why it would matter when creating a top prospects list, but it just doesn't make sense that it would be considered when naming a Player of the Year. Shocking that Moore was overlooked.

Just stating age alone isn't the factor here. It's that when matched up historically, the numbers are extreme. Moore did none of that, but rather was his usual dominant self.

If you want to go further, we all know BA factors tools and projection into their equations. The sum of all parts that is Trout, coupled with his historically matched specific (and majorly telling) statistics, points to him being the POY.
 

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Albeit a homer, I am not surprised in the least to see Trout walk away with the honor. The .958 OPS while playing half of his games at a very pitcher friendly park against competition 3-4 years older is quite impressive. Had he not been called up early out of necessity he could have easily hit 25-2b, 15-3b, 15-hr while stealing 40-45 bags. Again, there were players with better numbers but when upside is added into the equation Trout is as good a pick as any.
 

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I do not denounce the decision made by BA to pick Trout over more, but needless to say I really thought that Moore would take the honors. Moore is one of those special pitchers that do not come around very often. He is a left hander with great velocity and no one has awed crowds this season better than more. Trout is one hell of a ball player and he will go onto a successful big league career. Trout would have had better numbers if he didn't go back and forth, but the key words are WOULD HAVE. Moore put together quality start after quality start. Both are very good candidates, but Moore should have won this award.
 

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