Baseball Busts

[predatorkj]

Looks like we need to come up with a board certified definition of "bust".

 

[Zan]

Dude, really, Adenhart? Take him off that list right now. How insensitive can you be?

zan

Honestly...by the definitions a lot of the board seems to recognize for a prospect being a bust...Adenhart qualifies.He never lived up to the hype.While his death was tragic and a serious waste of life and talent due to idiocy...he never ='d his hype factor.I don't personally agree he was a bust by I think a lot of people are trying to pick and choose their definition as it suits them.Ernie Davis would have been considered a bust as well by a lot of standards the board seems to have.

You are an absolute moron. Maybe he didn't live up to the "hype" because HE DIDN'T LIVE PAST 22. God, honestly, you people really get me heated sometimes. I'd look at what I bolded, look at yourself in the mirror, and seriously reconsider your thought process.

zan

 

[thenumberonemetfan]

Dude, really, Adenhart? Take him off that list right now. How insensitive can you be?

zan

Honestly...by the definitions a lot of the board seems to recognize for a prospect being a bust...Adenhart qualifies.He never lived up to the hype.While his death was tragic and a serious waste of life and talent due to idiocy...he never ='d his hype factor.I don't personally agree he was a bust by I think a lot of people are trying to pick and choose their definition as it suits them.Ernie Davis would have been considered a bust as well by a lot of standards the board seems to have.

You are an absolute moron. Maybe he didn't live up to the "hype" because HE DIDN'T LIVE PAST 22. God, honestly, you people really get me heated sometimes. I'd look at what I bolded, look at yourself in the mirror, and seriously reconsider your thought process.

zan

He didnt mean Nick A. was a waste of life he meant that the stupid decision of the drunk driver wasted the life of a young pitcher....he could have worded it better though.

 

[jlecates]

Dude, really, Adenhart? Take him off that list right now. How insensitive can you be?

zan

Honestly...by the definitions a lot of the board seems to recognize for a prospect being a bust...Adenhart qualifies.He never lived up to the hype.While his death was tragic and a serious waste of life and talent due to idiocy...he never ='d his hype factor.I don't personally agree he was a bust by I think a lot of people are trying to pick and choose their definition as it suits them.Ernie Davis would have been considered a bust as well by a lot of standards the board seems to have.

You are an absolute moron. Maybe he didn't live up to the "hype" because HE DIDN'T LIVE PAST 22. God, honestly, you people really get me heated sometimes. I'd look at what I bolded, look at yourself in the mirror, and seriously reconsider your thought process.

zan

I think he was really just trying to establish what he sees as the ethos of what can be an all too myopic board - don't think he was personally attacking Adenhart at all.

 

[josh3302]

My reason for adenhart being considered a bust is not like how delmon young would be considered. I consider adenhart a bust because he had so much talent that was just taken away from him by a stupid drunk driver.

 

[predatorkj]

Dude, really, Adenhart? Take him off that list right now. How insensitive can you be?

zan

Honestly...by the definitions a lot of the board seems to recognize for a prospect being a bust...Adenhart qualifies.He never lived up to the hype.While his death was tragic and a serious waste of life and talent due to idiocy...he never ='d his hype factor.I don't personally agree he was a bust by I think a lot of people are trying to pick and choose their definition as it suits them.Ernie Davis would have been considered a bust as well by a lot of standards the board seems to have.

You are an absolute moron. Maybe he didn't live up to the "hype" because HE DIDN'T LIVE PAST 22. God, honestly, you people really get me heated sometimes. I'd look at what I bolded, look at yourself in the mirror, and seriously reconsider your thought process.

zan

:lol:

Dude...I am not saying he was a bust.Maybe you couldn't understand that.Not sure.Maybe my wording was too harsh.In any case...I don't care.I wasn't doing it to piss you off or belittle the fact the man has passed on.That was not the point.

The point was....that by the very definition of the word "bust" that many on this board seem to carry...Adenhart would be considered a bust.I don't think he was but I am just saying...a lot of people here seem to want to be able to pick and choose.Either a bust means one thing or the other.I am just a little tired of the double standard definitions.


And Zan...try not to give me the whole guilt trip.You don't know me or my family.You have no idea whether or not we have had a problem with a family death due to drunk driving.The fact that I just typed that should give you a hint.

 

[Wes]

So, I am only 15 and started watching baseball when I was 4, so since 1998. My cousin really got me into prospects and all this since I was 10 so since 2003. Since then I have followed prospects and have come across many "busts". Here is my list of the "biggest busts" in my opinion

BUSTS:

Matt Bush (Major idiot)
Mark Prior (He was so good but just was over-used. Not his fault but lost a great opportunity)
Brien Taylor (Idiot)
Wade Townsend (Drafted #6 two years in a row)
Eric Duncan (I actually saw him play in high school and he was absolutly great)
Delmon Young (He still has a chance but seems to be getting worse and worse. I am glad Tampa traded him)
Nick Adenhart (A bust because he had his life stolen from him and he really had a bright future ahead for him)
Matt Antonelli (Just don't know what happened)
Bryon Bullington
Dewon Brazelton (I remember all the hype he had with Tampa saying he was their "Ace of the Future" What happened?)
Rocco Baldelli (A sad bust here as well. He had some good years up until his 1st couple injuries and then being diagnosed with the Mitochondrial disorder. Could have been a great player)

ON THE CUSP OF BEING A BUST:

Alex Gordon (He's not living up to all the hype that was surrounding him and seems like the MLB is "too much")
Jeremy Jeffress (With all the steroid use he just is making himself worse and worse)
Billy Rowell (I think the O's may give up on him. I saw him play in High School too and he probably should have gone to college to develop)


I am sure there are more so let's see who your busts are and here what you guys have to say

A little harsh for a guy who was defending his brother don't you think?

 

[bradical]

The point was....that by the very definition of the word "bust" that many on this board seem to carry...Adenhart would be considered a bust.I don't think he was but I am just saying...a lot of people here seem to want to be able to pick and choose.Either a bust means one thing or the other.I am just a little tired of the double standard definitions.

A bust is, and always will be, someone who is given the opportunity to perform, and then performs at a less-than-desirable level. Adenhart's opportunity was sadly cut short, but he did shine whenever the opportunity allowed.

 

[Daltonb1219]

Pryor is the biggest bust imo

 

[predatorkj]

So, I am only 15 and started watching baseball when I was 4, so since 1998. My cousin really got me into prospects and all this since I was 10 so since 2003. Since then I have followed prospects and have come across many "busts". Here is my list of the "biggest busts" in my opinion

BUSTS:

Matt Bush (Major idiot)
Mark Prior (He was so good but just was over-used. Not his fault but lost a great opportunity)
Brien Taylor (Idiot)
Wade Townsend (Drafted #6 two years in a row)
Eric Duncan (I actually saw him play in high school and he was absolutly great)
Delmon Young (He still has a chance but seems to be getting worse and worse. I am glad Tampa traded him)
Nick Adenhart (A bust because he had his life stolen from him and he really had a bright future ahead for him)
Matt Antonelli (Just don't know what happened)
Bryon Bullington
Dewon Brazelton (I remember all the hype he had with Tampa saying he was their "Ace of the Future" What happened?)
Rocco Baldelli (A sad bust here as well. He had some good years up until his 1st couple injuries and then being diagnosed with the Mitochondrial disorder. Could have been a great player)

ON THE CUSP OF BEING A BUST:

Alex Gordon (He's not living up to all the hype that was surrounding him and seems like the MLB is "too much")
Jeremy Jeffress (With all the steroid use he just is making himself worse and worse)
Billy Rowell (I think the O's may give up on him. I saw him play in High School too and he probably should have gone to college to develop)


I am sure there are more so let's see who your busts are and here what you guys have to say

A little harsh for a guy who was defending his brother don't you think?

Nope...go do some research...he was a hothead.He could have avoided that.I guess when people don't understand just how easily they can loose their chance...they do stupid things.They try to keep on living the life they used to have and don't understand that if they make bad choices, like they may have been accustomed to doing(read Mike Vick) and they hang around with the same element and same people...they can loose their dream.The people they are hanging around and with certainly don't have that to loose so they live like they don't have it to lose.Its your job as someone who does have something to lose to distance yourself from those situations.

 

[jlecates]

Pryor is the biggest bust imo

Man, Richard had plus-plus mic skills. :lol:
You mean Prior?

 

[predatorkj]

The point was....that by the very definition of the word "bust" that many on this board seem to carry...Adenhart would be considered a bust.I don't think he was but I am just saying...a lot of people here seem to want to be able to pick and choose.Either a bust means one thing or the other.I am just a little tired of the double standard definitions.

A bust is, and always will be, someone who is given the opportunity to perform, and then performs at a less-than-desirable level. Adenhart's opportunity was sadly cut short, but he did shine whenever the opportunity allowed.

Okay...well argue that with all the people who feel like if you don't live up to the hype , whatever the circumstances, you are a bust.The OP would be a good place to start eh?

 

[Daltonb1219]

Pryor is the biggest bust imo

Man, Richard had plus-plus mic skills. :lol:
You mean Prior?

Yes sorry

Im so used to hating on Terrelle Pryor from Ohio st so i accidentally put that

 

[Wes]

So, I am only 15 and started watching baseball when I was 4, so since 1998. My cousin really got me into prospects and all this since I was 10 so since 2003. Since then I have followed prospects and have come across many "busts". Here is my list of the "biggest busts" in my opinion

BUSTS:

Matt Bush (Major idiot)
Mark Prior (He was so good but just was over-used. Not his fault but lost a great opportunity)
Brien Taylor (Idiot)
Wade Townsend (Drafted #6 two years in a row)
Eric Duncan (I actually saw him play in high school and he was absolutly great)
Delmon Young (He still has a chance but seems to be getting worse and worse. I am glad Tampa traded him)
Nick Adenhart (A bust because he had his life stolen from him and he really had a bright future ahead for him)
Matt Antonelli (Just don't know what happened)
Bryon Bullington
Dewon Brazelton (I remember all the hype he had with Tampa saying he was their "Ace of the Future" What happened?)
Rocco Baldelli (A sad bust here as well. He had some good years up until his 1st couple injuries and then being diagnosed with the Mitochondrial disorder. Could have been a great player)

ON THE CUSP OF BEING A BUST:

Alex Gordon (He's not living up to all the hype that was surrounding him and seems like the MLB is "too much")
Jeremy Jeffress (With all the steroid use he just is making himself worse and worse)
Billy Rowell (I think the O's may give up on him. I saw him play in High School too and he probably should have gone to college to develop)


I am sure there are more so let's see who your busts are and here what you guys have to say

A little harsh for a guy who was defending his brother don't you think?

Nope...go do some research...he was a hothead.He could have avoided that.I guess when people don't understand just how easily they can loose their chance...they do stupid things.They try to keep on living the life they used to have and don't understand that if they make bad choices, like they may have been accustomed to doing(read Mike Vick) and they hang around with the same element and same people...they can loose their dream.The people they are hanging around and with certainly don't have that to loose so they live like they don't have it to loose.Its your job as someone who does have something to loose to distance yourself from those situations.

I know a heck of a lot of people who would do the same exact thing as him if someone beat up their friend or family member. Around here we call them good friends/family.

It's funny that you say he should have distanced himself from the "people he was hanging around with." It was his brother. You don't distance yourself from family.

 

[subpop77]

Todd Van Poppel
Jaret Wright
Phil Plantier

Ben McDonald too....remember how crazy his stuff was especially the 1990 Upper Deck.......also, Kevin Mass,


TK

100% Agreed on all

 

[Philip J. Fry]

Todd Van Poppel
Jaret Wright
Phil Plantier

Ben McDonald too....remember how crazy his stuff was especially the 1990 Upper Deck.......also, Kevin Mass,


TK

100% Agreed on all

Oh I don't know how I missed those 2.

 

[matfanofold]

What ever the census comes up with for a prefered definition of a "bust", I would like to submit to keep the bar just above Alex Gordon. To me, he is a classic definition of a bust(at this point). I mean, lets face the facts here. The guy is almost 26, had 3 bad years in the Bigs after being touted as the next Brett, and is currently trying to 'find himself' in the minors.

Could he turn it around? Perhaps, but I feel it's only time before the last 'bust' nail is hammered in to the coffen.

 

[subpop77]

[quote="Philip J. Fry":1khhhifs]Todd Van Poppel
Jaret Wright
Phil Plantier

Ben McDonald too....remember how crazy his stuff was especially the 1990 Upper Deck.......also, Kevin Mass,


TK

100% Agreed on all

Oh I don't know how I missed those 2.[/quote:1khhhifs]
:lol: Thats what thier teams said too

 

[matfanofold]

Oh, and I'll also offer Ron Kittle (remember the hype around this guy in 82'??) a couple others from a time long forgotten...

Al Chambers
Shawn Abner

 

[Hallsgator]

Pryor is the biggest bust imo

Terrelle Pryor?