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Contrary to popular belief, Mark Prior actually injured his arm from surfing. Remember how everyone said he had flawless mechanics? Those people weren't too far off. During the off-season, Prior, from Southen Cal, overused his shoulder surfing.

I also wouldn't call Adenhart a bust. There's a big difference between bust and tragedy.
 

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My definition of a bust is someone who fails to reach the Major Leagues after having some sort of hype.

Busts
Brien Taylor
Wade Townsend
Toe Nash

Being labeled a bust can sometimes used be to define guys who didn't live up to expectations after reaching the Major Leagues, but if you play two, three or four years and seemingly have earned a regular MLB paycheck for that period of time - you are really more of a disappointment than strictly being a bust - as tempting as it is for casual fans to label the player a straight out bust.

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Delmon Young
Jeff Francoeur
 

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Phil Hiatt
Donnie Sadler
Kevin Maas
Travis Lee
Bryan Bullington
Matt Moses
Ozzie Canseco
Matt Harrington
David McCarty

Those are just a few on my list.

And, Adenhart wouldn't be considered a bust by anyone else in the collecting or sports world. Period.
 

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ALL_THE_HYPE said:
Contrary to popular belief, Mark Prior actually injured his arm from surfing. Remember how everyone said he had flawless mechanics? Those people weren't too far off. During the off-season, Prior, from Southen Cal, overused his shoulder surfing.

I also wouldn't call Adenhart a bust. There's a big difference between bust and tragedy.

Prior in fact had horrible mechanics.

I think Delmon Young and Alex Gordon are quickly making their way towards Ben McDonald, Brien Taylor, Todd VanPoppel territory.
 

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andyduke86 said:
ALL_THE_HYPE said:
Remember how everyone said he had flawless mechanics?
Prior in fact had horrible mechanics.
You're both correct.

From Wikipedia: (yes I know it's Wikipedia, but the following contains footnotes from various sources.)

Prior's pitching mechanics have been the subject of much attention throughout his career. As a prospect, Mark Prior's symmetrical, seemingly effortless delivery was widely regarded as mechanically efficient and sound, most notably by former Cubs announcer Steve Stone. Prior's former personal pitching coach Tom House labeled the right-hander a "can't-miss" prospect. However, after Prior suffered a series of debilitating arm injuries, many experts have re-examined Prior's delivery.
As easy and flowing as Prior's pitching mechanics seem to be, his arm action contains elements that some analysts believe to be hazardous.

According to Chris O'Leary of The Pitching Mechanic, an online pitching mechanics blog, Prior's injury problems are largely derived from his arm action. More specifically, they are due to Prior's Inverted W arm action in which he lifts his elbows above and behind the level of his shoulders. According to O'Leary, this creates a timing problem that places an undue stress on the muscles and ligaments of the shoulder and elbow.

Dick Mills, a former major league pitcher and co-author of The Science and Art of Baseball Pitching and Pitching.com, has speculated that Prior's injuries were a result of a movement known as scapular loading. Scapular loading is an arm action in which a pitcher's shoulder blades are pinched together and the elbows are taken behind, and sometimes above, the level of the shoulders. The idea that scapular loading is dangerous has been disputed by some in the field of athletic training.
 

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Seiya said:
Antonelli can;t be called a bust yet, what happened is that his swing sucked. The Padres FO had a problem with it when he was drafted, but since he was having success with it they let him go on with it. But now that he's struggled two years in a row he was sent to Instructs to rework it completely, he could make a comeback next year.
Give up Gustavo :lol:.
 

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TelePlayer22 said:
Brian Dopirak
Jason Stokes
Jeremy Reed
Adam Miller
Mitch Einertson
Josh Wall

I remember someone on the Beckett Boards way back when, had seemingly all his BCD cards. Wonder where that guy is now (both the collector & Einertson).
 

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55_marlins_sp said:
TelePlayer22 said:
Brian Dopirak
Jason Stokes
Jeremy Reed
Adam Miller
Mitch Einertson
Josh Wall

I remember someone on the Beckett Boards way back when, had seemingly all his BCD cards. Wonder where that guy is now (both the collector & Einertson).
I think his name was Jay something or other.

Jaypas? Jaypers?
 

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josh3302 said:
So, I am only 15 and started watching baseball when I was 4, so since 1998. My cousin really got me into prospects and all this since I was 10 so since 2003. Since then I have followed prospects and have come across many "busts". Here is my list of the "biggest busts" in my opinion

BUSTS:

Matt Bush (Major idiot)
Mark Prior (He was so good but just was over-used. Not his fault but lost a great opportunity)
Brien Taylor (Idiot)
Wade Townsend (Drafted #6 two years in a row)
Eric Duncan (I actually saw him play in high school and he was absolutly great)
Delmon Young (He still has a chance but seems to be getting worse and worse. I am glad Tampa traded him)
Nick Adenhart (A bust because he had his life stolen from him and he really had a bright future ahead for him)
Matt Antonelli (Just don't know what happened)
Bryon Bullington
Dewon Brazelton (I remember all the hype he had with Tampa saying he was their "Ace of the Future" What happened?)
Rocco Baldelli (A sad bust here as well. He had some good years up until his 1st couple injuries and then being diagnosed with the Mitochondrial disorder. Could have been a great player)

ON THE CUSP OF BEING A BUST:

Alex Gordon (He's not living up to all the hype that was surrounding him and seems like the MLB is "too much")
Jeremy Jeffress (With all the steroid use he just is making himself worse and worse)
Billy Rowell (I think the O's may give up on him. I saw him play in High School too and he probably should have gone to college to develop)


I am sure there are more so let's see who your busts are and here what you guys have to say

A little harsh for a guy who was defending his brother don't you think?

Nope...go do some research...he was a hothead.He could have avoided that.I guess when people don't understand just how easily they can loose their chance...they do stupid things.They try to keep on living the life they used to have and don't understand that if they make bad choices, like they may have been accustomed to doing(read Mike Vick) and they hang around with the same element and same people...they can loose their dream.The people they are hanging around and with certainly don't have that to loose so they live like they don't have it to loose.Its your job as someone who does have something to loose to distance yourself from those situations.

I know a heck of a lot of people who would do the same exact thing as him if someone beat up their friend or family member. Around here we call them good friends/family.

It's funny that you say he should have distanced himself from the "people he was hanging around with." It was his brother. You don't distance yourself from family.


Man...I had no freaking idea that I would be sitting here all night trying to stick up for a list I didn't even necessarily agree with.

I know you have your own idea of what a good family member constitutes and who knows...I may agree with some of it.But if I was going to strike it rich and there were knuckle heads around me?Bon freaking voyage!I don't care.

I know for a fact you have no idea what you are talking about either.Obviously you have no idea what happened to Taylor.I can tell.

Taylor actually was mislead by his brother(Brenden) into believing he had been jumped.He was lied to.There have been many articles about this.So Brien goes over to the guys home(the guy who kicked Brenden's ass for pushing his mother down in an earlier altercation) and wants to fight.So ensues a stupid ass debacle that could have been avoided.

Like I said...hang around ******* people, family or not, and pay a price.Trust me...if I struck it rich or had something going for me like that...there are people I would have to steer clear of(even family members).
 

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