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Tomlinson21RB said:
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Even if they do take back one of the techs on Perk (and, I'm not entirely sure they will, because his reputation is near Sheed-esque levels), he's still one T away from a possible Game 7 suspension, and we know how much refs like handing out those double-techs like they're candy. Sheed's back, Davis' concussion, and KG having to guard Lewis mean that there will be no answer for Howard. Oh, wait, there's Scal...

So that takes care of Game 6.

Game 7 is in Orlando.

This series is over, thanks to some officiating that will rival the 02 Kings/Lakers Game 6.

Now I'm REALLY pissed that Pierce didn't even get a shot off before OT of Game 4. All of this could have been avoided.

I'm generally negative towards my teams because I've been let down too many times, but I'm with you. This series is over, and the Magic will win. The Celts took advantage of having three guys that could guard Howard and use fouls on him. Now Baby is out, Sheed isn't 100%, and Perk is potentially out. Because they didn't take care of business in game 4 they're going to continue having to play every other day and Rondo isn't going to have time to heal. The old three isn't going to have time to rest either.

The Celts didn't play well last night, but it's tough when every time you start to gain momentum the refs take it away. I think it was before the half when the Celts were starting to get a little momentum, and baby was diving/reaching out for a rebound. His hands were on the ball and Reddick ran into baby's side and bounced off. The foul was called on Baby and because the Celts were in the penalty Reddick got two free points. It killed anything the Celtics had going at that time. This happened throughout the game. Now allowing the Magic shooters to get open and hit so many threes is entirely on the Celtics.

As soon as this play happened, I thought the momentum was dead. You're spot-on there.

And when I stopped watching, the Magic were 11-18 from 3. That's insane, and you don't beat a team that's shooting that well (and you aren't rushing them like you did for the first three games).
 

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Boston needs to get back to what got them here.Rondo needs to up his game from the last 2 games and play that smothering defense for 48 minutes and they will win this series.

Only problem is that he's hurting. Jeff Van Gundy said it last night, if it was Lebron we'd hear an update every 15 minutes, but because it's Rondo he's just playing through it quietly. With the schedule being every other day now and the way the Magic are making him run through a million screens, I don't know that he can get healthy.
 

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bungle77 said:
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Even if they do take back one of the techs on Perk (and, I'm not entirely sure they will, because his reputation is near Sheed-esque levels), he's still one T away from a possible Game 7 suspension, and we know how much refs like handing out those double-techs like they're candy. Sheed's back, Davis' concussion, and KG having to guard Lewis mean that there will be no answer for Howard. Oh, wait, there's Scal...

So that takes care of Game 6.

Game 7 is in Orlando.

This series is over, thanks to some officiating that will rival the 02 Kings/Lakers Game 6.

Now I'm REALLY pissed that Pierce didn't even get a shot off before OT of Game 4. All of this could have been avoided.

I'm generally negative towards my teams because I've been let down too many times, but I'm with you. This series is over, and the Magic will win. The Celts took advantage of having three guys that could guard Howard and use fouls on him. Now Baby is out, Sheed isn't 100%, and Perk is potentially out. Because they didn't take care of business in game 4 they're going to continue having to play every other day and Rondo isn't going to have time to heal. The old three isn't going to have time to rest either.

The Celts didn't play well last night, but it's tough when every time you start to gain momentum the refs take it away. I think it was before the half when the Celts were starting to get a little momentum, and baby was diving/reaching out for a rebound. His hands were on the ball and Reddick ran into baby's side and bounced off. The foul was called on Baby and because the Celts were in the penalty Reddick got two free points. It killed anything the Celtics had going at that time. This happened throughout the game. Now allowing the Magic shooters to get open and hit so many threes is entirely on the Celtics.

As soon as this play happened, I thought the momentum was dead. You're spot-on there.

And when I stopped watching, the Magic were 11-18 from 3. That's insane, and you don't beat a team that's shooting that well (and you aren't rushing them like you did for the first three games).

I think it was down to 6 points at that point and baby was getting that board so the Celts would have had a chance to bring it within 4. Instead Reddick gets 2 to bring it to 8, the Celts don't score and the Magic do and it's 10 points. It crushed them.
 

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Couple of thoughts:

1. I don't know whether or not it's intentional, but Howard hits more people harder (and does not get called for it) than anyone I have ever seen. Seems like after every play in the lane he is pulling someone down or hitting someone with an elbow. I know he takes a ton of abuse during the game, but I've never seen anyone do as much damage "inadvertantly" after the play in over.

2. The officiating has been as poor in this series as in any I call recall watching.

3. Rondo is definitely not himself. He's not attacking the way he did against Cleveland and Miami.
 

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Whew, what a relief! The effing Lakers blew a huge lead and let the Suns back into the game. Nash was a madman. It would have served them right to lose but I'm glad they didn't :D
 

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Robert Horry, Derek Fisher and Now Ron Artest :o . The Lakers have had some of the Most amazing Lucky last shots in the playoffs, in the history of Basketball! With Horry it was more luck in the fact that the ball always bounced his way. The ball would litterally bounce of the Backboard then off 2 or 3 defenders and still find it way to Horry. Lakers did their Job, now Boston has to get it done tomorrow.
 

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Jason Richardson does that and Zach Randolph is apparently the Indiana kingpin. My favourite spartans team of all time didn't have a great day(s).

I still have Phoenix faith.
 

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kobe has been flirting with a 30 point triple double every single game...as great as kobe is, i definately didnt think i would be seeing that
 

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Biased site (Boston sports), but interesting collection of videos on Howard playing dirty. I'm sure there are plenty of videos of Celtics doing things they shouldn't too, but a lot of these prove my biggest problem with Dwight. I'm fine with contact, but when someone is in the air and you hit them, don't follow through. That's how people land awkwardly and get hurt.

http://www.sawxblog.com/2010/05/video-o ... inals.html
 

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Tomlinson21RB said:
Biased site (Boston sports), but interesting collection of videos on Howard playing dirty. I'm sure there are plenty of videos of Celtics doing things they shouldn't too, but a lot of these prove my biggest problem with Dwight. I'm fine with contact, but when someone is in the air and you hit them, don't follow through. That's how people land awkwardly and get hurt.

http://www.sawxblog.com/2010/05/video-o ... inals.html


lol biased is an understatement....celtics have kendrick perkins, garnett and rasheed who do the EXACT same things and have been for years..dont get me wrong garnett is one of my favorite players because of his passion but he is one of the dirtiest players in the league and all the players know it as well..and hell im not even going to show the video were he swung a elbow and hit q rich in the face...any other team and garnett would have been getting swung on for that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0tiQ01BhGM
 

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Tomlinson21RB said:
Biased site (Boston sports), but interesting collection of videos on Howard playing dirty. I'm sure there are plenty of videos of Celtics doing things they shouldn't too, but a lot of these prove my biggest problem with Dwight. I'm fine with contact, but when someone is in the air and you hit them, don't follow through. That's how people land awkwardly and get hurt.

http://www.sawxblog.com/2010/05/video-o ... inals.html


lol biased is an understatement....celtics have kendrick perkins, garnett and rasheed who do the EXACT same things and have been for years..dont get me wrong garnett is one of my favorite players because of his passion but he is one of the dirtiest players in the league and all the players know it as well..and hell im not even going to show the video were he swung a elbow and hit q rich in the face...any other team and garnett would have been getting swung on for that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0tiQ01BhGM

Like I said, the Celtics have plenty of players that aren't model citizens, but I view Howard very differently. I do agree you shouldn't show the KG elbow on Q video because that wasn't dirty. First, it wasn't in play. Second, it was provoked and possibly deserved. Third, it's a cheap shot if anything, but not dirty play. Howard does things both intentionally and unintentionally that can seriously hurt players, and his actions are unprovoked and in the flow of the game. KG has his emotional blow ups, but the other stuff he does isn't going to hurt anyone. Hell, Rick Bucher went on a twitter rampage today talking about how Howard is dirty.

Being physical is not dirty. It's being physical when your opponent can't see it coming + protect him/herself. That's the difference.

I don't think DHoward meant to clock Davis. But he purposely plays w/his arms too high. Post play is about body angle, not eye-level 'bows.

Stop w/"keep the ball high" pablum. Not the issue w/Dwight. Most of his elbows come w/out the ball. Elbows out/ball high= contradiction.

He also said KG, Kobe, and MJ played dirty at times, so again, no one is saying Howard is the only one.
 

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i personally think he gets singled out because of his size and the fact that hes a star in the league, i mean kobe and others are not going to be able to knock someone out with an elbow but dwight is a monster and is STRONG so when he does it yes people are going to fall....and yes there are other big guys in the league that do stuff but dont get as much media attention because there not the star player that dwight is (perkins for example)

Tomlinson21RB said:
KOBEARODLT said:
Tomlinson21RB said:
Biased site (Boston sports), but interesting collection of videos on Howard playing dirty. I'm sure there are plenty of videos of Celtics doing things they shouldn't too, but a lot of these prove my biggest problem with Dwight. I'm fine with contact, but when someone is in the air and you hit them, don't follow through. That's how people land awkwardly and get hurt.

http://www.sawxblog.com/2010/05/video-o ... inals.html


lol biased is an understatement....celtics have kendrick perkins, garnett and rasheed who do the EXACT same things and have been for years..dont get me wrong garnett is one of my favorite players because of his passion but he is one of the dirtiest players in the league and all the players know it as well..and hell im not even going to show the video were he swung a elbow and hit q rich in the face...any other team and garnett would have been getting swung on for that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0tiQ01BhGM

Like I said, the Celtics have plenty of players that aren't model citizens, but I view Howard very differently. I do agree you shouldn't show the KG elbow on Q video because that wasn't dirty. First, it wasn't in play. Second, it was provoked and possibly deserved. Third, it's a cheap shot if anything, but not dirty play. Howard does things both intentionally and unintentionally that can seriously hurt players, and his actions are unprovoked and in the flow of the game. KG has his emotional blow ups, but the other stuff he does isn't going to hurt anyone. Hell, Rick Bucher went on a twitter rampage today talking about how Howard is dirty.

Being physical is not dirty. It's being physical when your opponent can't see it coming + protect him/herself. That's the difference.

[quote:2xxvhk2w]I don't think DHoward meant to clock Davis. But he purposely plays w/his arms too high. Post play is about body angle, not eye-level 'bows.

Stop w/"keep the ball high" pablum. Not the issue w/Dwight. Most of his elbows come w/out the ball. Elbows out/ball high= contradiction.

He also said KG, Kobe, and MJ played dirty at times, so again, no one is saying Howard is the only one.[/quote:2xxvhk2w]
 

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That's probably true too. It's enhanced to a degree because he's in the spotlight, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he plays dirty.

I'm perfectly fine with other people liking him, but back to my original point: I lost all respect for him this series.
 

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Now the Lakers need to close out. I must admit I didn't think that Boston would be able to close this one out but I am glad they did.
 

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