Belichick & Co Just Lost Respect (Not Because of Losing)

[Gwynn545]

Sure looks to me like the bodyguard grabs the cameraman's left arm and throws him to the ground without warning.

That's what it looked like to me. He glared at him too while he was walking away. It seemed like one of those "Get that _____in camer out out of my face!" moments.

certainly looked intentional to me.

Sorry guys...no way. Watch the camera cord start slack, go tight, the guy running to help him, just before he is pulled to the ground. There's no way baldy threw him to the ground.

 

[Card Magnet]

Sure looks to me like the bodyguard grabs the cameraman's left arm and throws him to the ground without warning.

That's what it looked like to me. He glared at him too while he was walking away. It seemed like one of those "Get that _____in camer out out of my face!" moments.

certainly looked intentional to me.

Sorry guys...no way. Watch the camera cord start slack, go tight, the guy running to help him, just before he is pulled to the ground. There's no way baldy threw him to the ground.

I noticed that, but it seems like he would have been fine until cue ball grabbed the camera and ****** it. He also didn't have the look of a guy who didn't mean to do it, but that doesn't mean anything.

 

[Groat]

Upon further review, ruling on the field is that the cameraman ran out of cord without realizing it. I guess he could have potentially been facilitated by the goon, but I see no conclusive evidence to bolster that point.

 

[cartersprings]

Obviously the camera guy was about to spill something on Bill's shirt. The aide was just doing his job.

Pause it at 0:15 and you can see Mr. Clean has a hold of his arm before he falls/is pushed.

 

[Pinbreaker]

I watched it on Youtubes HD video and the camera cable caused him to trip up. I think the assistant was just trying to stay out of the way..

I didn't see anything that would warant the accusation.

 

[Card Magnet]

I watched it on Youtubes HD video and the camera cable caused him to trip up. I think the assistant was just trying to stay out of the way..

I didn't see anything that would warant the accusation.

You didn't see him grab the camera? He also pushed another camermans camera out of the way before, and that guy just walked away.

 

[Rickzcards]

Classy has never been something Bill has ever been accused of.

+1, this is nothing new. He's always been a cheating crybaby bitch.

There fixed it for posterity.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

I'm not going to pretend Belichick is the classiest guy in the league, but when you think about there are examples of the elite and driven athletes or coaches having issues in that department. Look at two of the greatest basketball players of all time, Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan. I think to some extent these individuals want to win and be the best more than anything and end up losing some of the personality and personal traits that people want to see.

It's a trade off for Pats fans. Piss and moan about his handshakes or whatever you want, but he is the best coach in the league. What he does in free agency, trades, drafting, player development, and schemes has created a winning environment. Sure he isn't the greatest guy on the field (although I've heard numerous accounts of him being a great off the field), but I'd trade it for what this franchise has become. Heck, I even like seeing athletes and coaches show that losing actually bothers them. It reminds me of the Celtics/Pistons/Lakers from the 80's. Those guys really hated each other, and you knew they cared as much and even more than fans.

 

[Card Magnet]

This incident is being investigated by the NFL now. NBC and the Pats are going with it as being "inadvertent", which is a repectable conclusion. I guess it's just unfortunate timing. I still don't like how he was pushing cameras out of the way. I wanted to count Belichick's tears of anger :lol:

Baldy's title is "Chief Operating Officer of TeamOps Security". When he's not in awkward situations with cameramen, I bet he assassinates African War Lords. What a title.

Pretty entertaining article from PFT.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... cameraman/

After last night's 35-34 instant classic win by the Colts over the Pats, New England coach Bill Belichick went to the middle of the field for a very quick handshake with Indy coach Jim Caldwell. Then, Belichick made for the tunnel.

Along the way, a Patriots employee running next to Belichick encountered a cameraman.

And, by all appearances. knocked him on his ass.

As it turns out, the Pats employee was Chief Operating Officer of TeamOps Security (seriously, that's his title) Mark Briggs, and the dude with the camera works for NBC.

And a league spokesman tells Ian Rapoport of the Boston Herald that the NFL is "looking into" the situation.

Rapoport also reports that the Pats and NBC have been "discussing the incident" and that NBC is "on board" with the tentative conclusion that it was all inadvertent.

We tend to agree. At full speed, it looks like Briggs takes the guy down without missing a beat, like a trained assasin nonchalantly breaking a neck. However, closer review shows that the cameraman, who was trying to get in position for a shot facing Belichick as he left the field, ran out of rope, like a robot with a six-foot extension cord.

It just so happened that Briggs made contact with the cameraman as the camera was yanking the man backward.

Then again, a Chief Operating Officer of TeamOps Security would tend to know how to take advantage of an opportunity to make something look like an accident.

 

[bodiaz]

I am not a Pats fan, but I do respect the orginazation. I think Bellichek is the best coach of alltime in the NFL. I used to think Parcells, but I think he has been passed.

BTW, I loved the 4th down call! Much rather have a coach that will go for the win than a coach that kicks a FG on 4th and 1 from the 1. Most coaches are WAY to conservative! If you want to blame someone for that loss, blame whoever called the timeout before the 2 minute warning, or Merriweather for tackling Addai at the 2 with over a minute left! If Merriweather lets him score, the Pats have time to drive down and win!

 

[KandKCards]

Yeah, such an *******!
http://twitpic.com/cc63j
http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random ... -revealed/

 

[Daltonb1219]

Yeah, such an *******!
http://twitpic.com/cc63j
http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random ... -revealed/

:lol:

 

[cowboysrule48]

Yeah, such an *******!
http://twitpic.com/cc63j
http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random ... -revealed/

:lol:

How is that funny?

 

[Daltonb1219]

Yeah, such an *******!
http://twitpic.com/cc63j
http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random ... -revealed/

:lol:

How is that funny?

I think its funny how much of a dick he is but yet people still like him.

 

[Wes]

Who cares about postgame handshakes? The guy is heated for good reason. I like baseball much better in this aspect - no joking around with the other team after a big loss.

As far as him as a person, it's pretty well established the good character he displays away from the field.

For the record, I have ZERO issue with him going for it on fourth down. They convert that probably 90% of the time. Manning leads the Colts to the end zone WAY more than 10% of the time if they punt it there.

 

[ctmike]

From the video, I don't think he threw him down...the cameraman was hung up on his wires or something...You can see another guy trying to untangle him, or pull him or something.
Bald man is safe...

I'm inclined to agree with you, looks like he was just trying to keep him from colliding with himself and/or Bill, and he just got caught up and fell down.

Not sure how you can lose respect for Bill, other than the results from his coaching style, there's not much else to respect. He's a shining example in sports of how not to act in winning or losing, but people will accept it more when there's winning, and it's a good thing he's had success or his tired act would have been long gone.

 

[Card Magnet]

From the video, I don't think he threw him down...the cameraman was hung up on his wires or something...You can see another guy trying to untangle him, or pull him or something.
Bald man is safe...

I'm inclined to agree with you, looks like he was just trying to keep him from colliding with himself and/or Bill, and he just got caught up and fell down.

Not sure how you can lose respect for Bill, other than the results from his coaching style, there's not much else to respect. He's a shining example in sports of how not to act in winning or losing, but people will accept it more when there's winning, and it's a good thing he's had success or his tired act would have been long gone.

He was drinitely trying to push the camera out of the way because they were upset they lost. Maybe it didn't cause the guy to fall, but if you watch them walk off, the bald guy pushes another camera out of the way before the one who falls.

 

[ctmike]

Sure looks to me like the bodyguard grabs the cameraman's left arm and throws him to the ground without warning.

That's what it looked like to me. He glared at him too while he was walking away. It seemed like one of those "Get that _____in camer out out of my face!" moments.

Or maybe he was thinking, wow I can't believe he actually fell over, I hope he's OK, but I have to go eat some raw meat now.

 

[ctmike]

From the video, I don't think he threw him down...the cameraman was hung up on his wires or something...You can see another guy trying to untangle him, or pull him or something.
Bald man is safe...

I'm inclined to agree with you, looks like he was just trying to keep him from colliding with himself and/or Bill, and he just got caught up and fell down.

Not sure how you can lose respect for Bill, other than the results from his coaching style, there's not much else to respect. He's a shining example in sports of how not to act in winning or losing, but people will accept it more when there's winning, and it's a good thing he's had success or his tired act would have been long gone.

He was drinitely trying to push the camera out of the way because they were upset they lost. Maybe it didn't cause the guy to fall, but if you watch them walk off, the bald guy pushes another camera out of the way before the one who falls.

Oh I didn't say he wasn't trying to touch the man or his equipment, but he was just doing his job and there were other circumstances that made the man fall down, convenient or not. I am sure he makes that move all the time and the guys don't fall down, this guy just happened to do it at the right/wrong time and it made it look worse in all likelihood than it actually was.

And I don't think winning or losing changed the behavior, although they might not have been running as quickly off the field if they had won.

 

[KC37]

Just another case of people that hate the Pats/Belichick will see something one way, and fans will see it another way. YouTube is blocked here, so I can't re-watch it, but on first glance when I saw it live, I thought he got caught in the wires.

I echo the sentiment that I could care less about post-game handshakes. He blew the timeouts, Kevin Faulk cut his route about a yard too short, and Peyton Manning did what Peyton Manning does. I WANT him to be pissed off about it.

Let the fans of the 8-8 teams care about a post-game handshake. As far as I'm concerned, if he's not publicly complaining about the other coach, then he's not being disrespectful. And I don't think he's ever been accused of that, even from the "glass-half-full-of-*********" crowd.