Belichick & Co Just Lost Respect (Not Because of Losing)

[trademhigh]

Just another case of people that hate the Pats/Belichick will see something one way, and fans will see it another way. YouTube is blocked here, so I can't re-watch it, but on first glance when I saw it live, I thought he got caught in the wires.

I echo the sentiment that I could care less about post-game handshakes. He blew the timeouts, Kevin Faulk cut his route about a yard too short, and Peyton Manning did what Peyton Manning does. I WANT him to be pissed off about it.

Let the fans of the 8-8 teams care about a post-game handshake. As far as I'm concerned, if he's not publicly complaining about the other coach, then he's not being disrespectful. And I don't think he's ever been accused of that, even from the "glass-half-full-of-*********" crowd.

Having a body guard escort him while pushing cameramen isn't disrespectful? Also, what about Belichick's spying scandal? Even though he may be an incredible coach, I still think he is clearly one of if not the most disrespectful coach in the league.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

Just another case of people that hate the Pats/Belichick will see something one way, and fans will see it another way. YouTube is blocked here, so I can't re-watch it, but on first glance when I saw it live, I thought he got caught in the wires.

I echo the sentiment that I could care less about post-game handshakes. He blew the timeouts, Kevin Faulk cut his route about a yard too short, and Peyton Manning did what Peyton Manning does. I WANT him to be pissed off about it.

Let the fans of the 8-8 teams care about a post-game handshake. As far as I'm concerned, if he's not publicly complaining about the other coach, then he's not being disrespectful. And I don't think he's ever been accused of that, even from the "glass-half-full-of-*********" crowd.

Having a body guard escort him while pushing cameramen isn't disrespectful? Also, what about Belichick's spying scandal? Even though he may be an incredible coach, I still think he is clearly one of if not the most disrespectful coach in the league.

First, whether the guy walking with him pushed the guy to the ground is up for debate. People that like the Patriots will say he didn't, people that dislike the patriots will say he did, and everyone else will fall in the middle.

Now, as far as him being disrespectful I guess it is probably pretty similar. The guy is extremely respectful of the history of the game and the great players in it. He does show his emotions after a tough loss, and you might cry "disrespectful" while I cry "I'm glad he's angry because I'm angry about that loss too." I guess the thing is do you hire a coach to be perfect role model or to win? I vote win, and that's what he's done. This is pro sports, not pee wee football. You get paid big money, you're expected to win. If you do, other issues are normally ignored/forgiven. I can understand fans of teams that aren't as good, have lost to the Patriots, or just don't like successful teams calling foul on every little thing Bill does or doesn't do. I can tell you one thing, New England Patriots fans wouldn't trade him for any coach in the league and I'd even bet almost any team in the league would trade their coach for him.

 

[KandKCards]

Just another case of people that hate the Pats/Belichick will see something one way, and fans will see it another way. YouTube is blocked here, so I can't re-watch it, but on first glance when I saw it live, I thought he got caught in the wires.

I echo the sentiment that I could care less about post-game handshakes. He blew the timeouts, Kevin Faulk cut his route about a yard too short, and Peyton Manning did what Peyton Manning does. I WANT him to be pissed off about it.

Let the fans of the 8-8 teams care about a post-game handshake. As far as I'm concerned, if he's not publicly complaining about the other coach, then he's not being disrespectful. And I don't think he's ever been accused of that, even from the "glass-half-full-of-*********" crowd.

Having a body guard escort him while pushing cameramen isn't disrespectful? Also, what about Belichick's spying scandal? Even though he may be an incredible coach, I still think he is clearly one of if not the most disrespectful coach in the league.

First, whether the guy walking with him pushed the guy to the ground is up for debate. People that like the Patriots will say he didn't, people that dislike the patriots will say he did, and everyone else will fall in the middle.

Now, as far as him being disrespectful I guess it is probably pretty similar. The guy is extremely respectful of the history of the game and the great players in it. He does show his emotions after a tough loss, and you might cry "disrespectful" while I cry "I'm glad he's angry because I'm angry about that loss too." I guess the thing is do you hire a coach to be perfect role model or to win? I vote win, and that's what he's done. This is pro sports, not pee wee football. You get paid big money, you're expected to win. If you do, other issues are normally ignored/forgiven. I can understand fans of teams that aren't as good, have lost to the Patriots, or just don't like successful teams calling foul on every little thing Bill does or doesn't do. I can tell you one thing, New England Patriots fans wouldn't trade him for any coach in the league and I'd even bet almost any team in the league would trade their coach for him.

The thing that no one understands (because the media would prefer him to be the evil genius, and thus they don't report it) is that after all of his "classless" handshakes, he always makes right. For example, after the 2006 AFC Championship where he barely shook Dungy's hand, he sought him out in the tunnel and the two spoke for quite awhile.
I've always been impressed with his willingness to look bad in public and do his good deeds quietly. He doesn't go in front of the media and brag that he wrote a personal letter to a guy who just lost his wife. It's refreshing that there's still someone in the spotlight who doesn't care about how people look at him.

 

[trademhigh]

Just another case of people that hate the Pats/Belichick will see something one way, and fans will see it another way. YouTube is blocked here, so I can't re-watch it, but on first glance when I saw it live, I thought he got caught in the wires.

I echo the sentiment that I could care less about post-game handshakes. He blew the timeouts, Kevin Faulk cut his route about a yard too short, and Peyton Manning did what Peyton Manning does. I WANT him to be pissed off about it.

Let the fans of the 8-8 teams care about a post-game handshake. As far as I'm concerned, if he's not publicly complaining about the other coach, then he's not being disrespectful. And I don't think he's ever been accused of that, even from the "glass-half-full-of-*********" crowd.

Having a body guard escort him while pushing cameramen isn't disrespectful? Also, what about Belichick's spying scandal? Even though he may be an incredible coach, I still think he is clearly one of if not the most disrespectful coach in the league.

First, whether the guy walking with him pushed the guy to the ground is up for debate. People that like the Patriots will say he didn't, people that dislike the patriots will say he did, and everyone else will fall in the middle.

Now, as far as him being disrespectful I guess it is probably pretty similar. The guy is extremely respectful of the history of the game and the great players in it. He does show his emotions after a tough loss, and you might cry "disrespectful" while I cry "I'm glad he's angry because I'm angry about that loss too." I guess the thing is do you hire a coach to be perfect role model or to win? I vote win, and that's what he's done. This is pro sports, not pee wee football. You get paid big money, you're expected to win. If you do, other issues are normally ignored/forgiven. I can understand fans of teams that aren't as good, have lost to the Patriots, or just don't like successful teams calling foul on every little thing Bill does or doesn't do. I can tell you one thing, New England Patriots fans wouldn't trade him for any coach in the league and I'd even bet almost any team in the league would trade their coach for him.

The thing that no one understands (because the media would prefer him to be the evil genius, and thus they don't report it) is that after all of his "classless" handshakes, he always makes right. For example, after the 2006 AFC Championship where he barely shook Dungy's hand, he sought him out in the tunnel and the two spoke for quite awhile.
I've always been impressed with his willingness to look bad in public and do his good deeds quietly. He doesn't go in front of the media and brag that he wrote a personal letter to a guy who just lost his wife. It's refreshing that there's still someone in the spotlight who doesn't care about how people look at him.

That's not being a role model, that's called covering his own ass. Why should he have to always make things right? Can't he do the right thing the first time?

 

[trademhigh]

Just another case of people that hate the Pats/Belichick will see something one way, and fans will see it another way. YouTube is blocked here, so I can't re-watch it, but on first glance when I saw it live, I thought he got caught in the wires.

I echo the sentiment that I could care less about post-game handshakes. He blew the timeouts, Kevin Faulk cut his route about a yard too short, and Peyton Manning did what Peyton Manning does. I WANT him to be pissed off about it.

Let the fans of the 8-8 teams care about a post-game handshake. As far as I'm concerned, if he's not publicly complaining about the other coach, then he's not being disrespectful. And I don't think he's ever been accused of that, even from the "glass-half-full-of-*********" crowd.

Having a body guard escort him while pushing cameramen isn't disrespectful? Also, what about Belichick's spying scandal? Even though he may be an incredible coach, I still think he is clearly one of if not the most disrespectful coach in the league.

First, whether the guy walking with him pushed the guy to the ground is up for debate. People that like the Patriots will say he didn't, people that dislike the patriots will say he did, and everyone else will fall in the middle.

Now, as far as him being disrespectful I guess it is probably pretty similar. The guy is extremely respectful of the history of the game and the great players in it. He does show his emotions after a tough loss, and you might cry "disrespectful" while I cry "I'm glad he's angry because I'm angry about that loss too." I guess the thing is do you hire a coach to be perfect role model or to win? I vote win, and that's what he's done. This is pro sports, not pee wee football. You get paid big money, you're expected to win. If you do, other issues are normally ignored/forgiven. I can understand fans of teams that aren't as good, have lost to the Patriots, or just don't like successful teams calling foul on every little thing Bill does or doesn't do. I can tell you one thing, New England Patriots fans wouldn't trade him for any coach in the league and I'd even bet almost any team in the league would trade their coach for him.

Where did I say he was a bad coach? And, why would the Patriots trade him when they are a winning football team? That makes no sense. Also, where did I say he pushed him to the ground (that I'm not sure about)? I said he pushed him which is undeniable.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

Just another case of people that hate the Pats/Belichick will see something one way, and fans will see it another way. YouTube is blocked here, so I can't re-watch it, but on first glance when I saw it live, I thought he got caught in the wires.

I echo the sentiment that I could care less about post-game handshakes. He blew the timeouts, Kevin Faulk cut his route about a yard too short, and Peyton Manning did what Peyton Manning does. I WANT him to be pissed off about it.

Let the fans of the 8-8 teams care about a post-game handshake. As far as I'm concerned, if he's not publicly complaining about the other coach, then he's not being disrespectful. And I don't think he's ever been accused of that, even from the "glass-half-full-of-*********" crowd.

Having a body guard escort him while pushing cameramen isn't disrespectful? Also, what about Belichick's spying scandal? Even though he may be an incredible coach, I still think he is clearly one of if not the most disrespectful coach in the league.

First, whether the guy walking with him pushed the guy to the ground is up for debate. People that like the Patriots will say he didn't, people that dislike the patriots will say he did, and everyone else will fall in the middle.

Now, as far as him being disrespectful I guess it is probably pretty similar. The guy is extremely respectful of the history of the game and the great players in it. He does show his emotions after a tough loss, and you might cry "disrespectful" while I cry "I'm glad he's angry because I'm angry about that loss too." I guess the thing is do you hire a coach to be perfect role model or to win? I vote win, and that's what he's done. This is pro sports, not pee wee football. You get paid big money, you're expected to win. If you do, other issues are normally ignored/forgiven. I can understand fans of teams that aren't as good, have lost to the Patriots, or just don't like successful teams calling foul on every little thing Bill does or doesn't do. I can tell you one thing, New England Patriots fans wouldn't trade him for any coach in the league and I'd even bet almost any team in the league would trade their coach for him.

The thing that no one understands (because the media would prefer him to be the evil genius, and thus they don't report it) is that after all of his "classless" handshakes, he always makes right. For example, after the 2006 AFC Championship where he barely shook Dungy's hand, he sought him out in the tunnel and the two spoke for quite awhile.
I've always been impressed with his willingness to look bad in public and do his good deeds quietly. He doesn't go in front of the media and brag that he wrote a personal letter to a guy who just lost his wife. It's refreshing that there's still someone in the spotlight who doesn't care about how people look at him.

That's not being a role model, that's called covering his own ass. Why should he have to always make things right? Can't he do the right thing the first time?

Covering his ass how? Even after the loss to Denver this year he went into the Broncos locker room and personally congratulated McDaniels. McDaniels is the one who told the media, not Belichick. Is he covering his ass so other coaches like him? That's far fetched.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

Just another case of people that hate the Pats/Belichick will see something one way, and fans will see it another way. YouTube is blocked here, so I can't re-watch it, but on first glance when I saw it live, I thought he got caught in the wires.

I echo the sentiment that I could care less about post-game handshakes. He blew the timeouts, Kevin Faulk cut his route about a yard too short, and Peyton Manning did what Peyton Manning does. I WANT him to be pissed off about it.

Let the fans of the 8-8 teams care about a post-game handshake. As far as I'm concerned, if he's not publicly complaining about the other coach, then he's not being disrespectful. And I don't think he's ever been accused of that, even from the "glass-half-full-of-*********" crowd.

Having a body guard escort him while pushing cameramen isn't disrespectful? Also, what about Belichick's spying scandal? Even though he may be an incredible coach, I still think he is clearly one of if not the most disrespectful coach in the league.

First, whether the guy walking with him pushed the guy to the ground is up for debate. People that like the Patriots will say he didn't, people that dislike the patriots will say he did, and everyone else will fall in the middle.

Now, as far as him being disrespectful I guess it is probably pretty similar. The guy is extremely respectful of the history of the game and the great players in it. He does show his emotions after a tough loss, and you might cry "disrespectful" while I cry "I'm glad he's angry because I'm angry about that loss too." I guess the thing is do you hire a coach to be perfect role model or to win? I vote win, and that's what he's done. This is pro sports, not pee wee football. You get paid big money, you're expected to win. If you do, other issues are normally ignored/forgiven. I can understand fans of teams that aren't as good, have lost to the Patriots, or just don't like successful teams calling foul on every little thing Bill does or doesn't do. I can tell you one thing, New England Patriots fans wouldn't trade him for any coach in the league and I'd even bet almost any team in the league would trade their coach for him.

Where did I say he was a bad coach? And, why would the Patriots trade him when they are a winning football team? That makes no sense. Also, where did I say he pushed him to the ground (that I'm not sure about)? I said he pushed him which is undeniable.

"Where did I say he was a bad coach?"
You didn't but I'm saying all great athletes and coaches get away with things because they are great. That's what Belichick is, and it allows him to have his heat of the moment actions of not having a meaningless handshake, half hug, whatever.

"And, why would the Patriots trade him when they are a winning football team?"
Again, saying it's a trade off that in pro sports it isn't about being respectful or mr. nice guy. It's about winning, and every team wants the Bill Belichick package that includes the not so great stuff along with the winning.

"Also, where did I say he pushed him to the ground (that I'm not sure about)? I said he pushed him which is undeniable."
Sorry, I assumed you were talking about the camera guy that fell that the OP was arguing was thrown to the ground. Camera men get in people's faces, and Bill and his staff take losses hard. They do their handshake and walk into the locker room as quickly as possible. If someone is in their way they put their arms out and move them to the side, and sometimes it has some force. I think it's silly to make a big deal out of it because it's not like they are trying to harm anyone, but just trying to get where they are going when someone is blocking their path.

 

[KC37]

Just another case of people that hate the Pats/Belichick will see something one way, and fans will see it another way. YouTube is blocked here, so I can't re-watch it, but on first glance when I saw it live, I thought he got caught in the wires.

I echo the sentiment that I could care less about post-game handshakes. He blew the timeouts, Kevin Faulk cut his route about a yard too short, and Peyton Manning did what Peyton Manning does. I WANT him to be pissed off about it.

Let the fans of the 8-8 teams care about a post-game handshake. As far as I'm concerned, if he's not publicly complaining about the other coach, then he's not being disrespectful. And I don't think he's ever been accused of that, even from the "glass-half-full-of-*********" crowd.

Having a body guard escort him while pushing cameramen isn't disrespectful? Also, what about Belichick's spying scandal? Even though he may be an incredible coach, I still think he is clearly one of if not the most disrespectful coach in the league.

I meant he wasn't being disrespectful to the other coaches. Like has been said, he will almost always have a more meaningful, private conversation away from the cameras and the field.

And are you implying that he's instructing the bodyguard to push cameramen out of his way? Has there even been any thought that maybe, just maybe, that guy acted of his own volition? Oh, wait, it's easier to hate him.

And I'm surprised it took this long for someone to make the strained and convoluted connection to SpyGate.

 

[Card Magnet]

Just another case of people that hate the Pats/Belichick will see something one way, and fans will see it another way. YouTube is blocked here, so I can't re-watch it, but on first glance when I saw it live, I thought he got caught in the wires.

I echo the sentiment that I could care less about post-game handshakes. He blew the timeouts, Kevin Faulk cut his route about a yard too short, and Peyton Manning did what Peyton Manning does. I WANT him to be pissed off about it.

Let the fans of the 8-8 teams care about a post-game handshake. As far as I'm concerned, if he's not publicly complaining about the other coach, then he's not being disrespectful. And I don't think he's ever been accused of that, even from the "glass-half-full-of-*********" crowd.

Having a body guard escort him while pushing cameramen isn't disrespectful? Also, what about Belichick's spying scandal? Even though he may be an incredible coach, I still think he is clearly one of if not the most disrespectful coach in the league.

I meant he wasn't being disrespectful to the other coaches. Like has been said, he will almost always have a more meaningful, private conversation away from the cameras and the field.

And are you implying that he's instructing the bodyguard to push cameramen out of his way? Has there even been any thought that maybe, just maybe, that guy acted of his own volition? Oh, wait, it's easier to hate him.

And I'm surprised it took this long for someone to make the strained and convoluted connection to SpyGate.

Come on, you should know damn well that Belichick wanted that guy to push cameras out of his face, as any coach/player dodging through the crowd to escape to the locker room. If he's sidestepping the players who are coming up to shake his hand, he definitely doesn't want a camera closeup.

 

[KC37]

Just another case of people that hate the Pats/Belichick will see something one way, and fans will see it another way. YouTube is blocked here, so I can't re-watch it, but on first glance when I saw it live, I thought he got caught in the wires.

I echo the sentiment that I could care less about post-game handshakes. He blew the timeouts, Kevin Faulk cut his route about a yard too short, and Peyton Manning did what Peyton Manning does. I WANT him to be pissed off about it.

Let the fans of the 8-8 teams care about a post-game handshake. As far as I'm concerned, if he's not publicly complaining about the other coach, then he's not being disrespectful. And I don't think he's ever been accused of that, even from the "glass-half-full-of-*********" crowd.

Having a body guard escort him while pushing cameramen isn't disrespectful? Also, what about Belichick's spying scandal? Even though he may be an incredible coach, I still think he is clearly one of if not the most disrespectful coach in the league.

I meant he wasn't being disrespectful to the other coaches. Like has been said, he will almost always have a more meaningful, private conversation away from the cameras and the field.

And are you implying that he's instructing the bodyguard to push cameramen out of his way? Has there even been any thought that maybe, just maybe, that guy acted of his own volition? Oh, wait, it's easier to hate him.

And I'm surprised it took this long for someone to make the strained and convoluted connection to SpyGate.

Come on, you should know damn well that Belichick wanted that guy to push cameras out of his face, as any coach/player dodging through the crowd to escape to the locker room. If he's sidestepping the players who are coming up to shake his hand, he definitely doesn't want a camera closeup.

OK - fine. You're right. But, just for arguments' sake...

..shouldn't cameramen know to stay out of the patch of the rampaging Belichick beast? With his decades long track record of disrespect and destruction, you would think these noble creatures would know to stay outside a 10 foot radius of Satan, out of pitchfork and uppercut range. Of course, he can kill you with a stare and disable your children with a wink and a nod, but surely these HD cameras have a zoom function that would allow you to capture the true evil without getting his snot bubbles all over your lens.

Or, do cameramen have the same laws as pedestrians in a crosswalk, where you have to stop and let them pass?

 

[Card Magnet]

My friend showed me a hillarious gif with this. I'll have to have him send me the link.

It's of Belichick and balds walking together, and it goes into slow motion as the incident happens, and a speech bubble comes up for baldy that says "GROG SMASH!" and the guy falls over.

 

[andyduke86]

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