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As part of Baseball America's Ben Badler's involvement with the site, every now and then he will write an article just for us after looking through a checklist of a prospect product. This is what he saw after observing the 09 BCDP checklist...

Enjoy!



1. Tyler Matzek, lhp, Rockies: Matzek was the 11th overall pick in the draft, but he was behind only Stephen Strasburg on some teams’ draft boards and slid due to a wave of signability picks ahead of him. Matzek immediately becomes one of the elite pitching prospects in baseball, as has everything scouts look for in a high school pitcher. With throws a 90-94 mph fastball that touches 98, two potential plus breaking balls and shows feel for a changeup. He’s athletic, has a smooth delivery that he repeats and throws strikes. In other words, Matzek has all the ingredients of a future star.

2. Jiovanni Mier, ss, Astros: While some scouts had reservations about Mier’s bat heading into his senior year of high school, he has become one of the top all-around shortstop prospects in baseball. Mier is a true shortstop, an athletic defender with good hands, range, arm strength and instincts in the field. He had an emphatic pro debut at the plate in the Appalachian League, showing a smooth, loose stroke with quick hands, good balance and solid bat speed to go with an advanced approach and pitch recognition. Mier is a high-ceiling player who is relatively polished for his age, a combination that might end up making a steal for the Astros with the 21st overall pick in the draft.

3. Jared Mitchell, of, White Sox: Mitchell, who also served as a wide receiver at LSU, is one of the best athletes in the minors. Focusing on baseball full-time should accelerate development for Mitchell, who offers a tantalizing package of plus-plus speed and above-average raw power potential, though the power might not come until later in his career. Mitchell’s swing will need some work in pro ball and his strikeout rate is a concern, but he had a strong showing in the South Atlantic League in his pro debut, where he showed the patience to work the count and get on base at a high clip.

4. Mike Trout, of, Angels: Trout has above-average tools both at the plate and in the field at a premium position. Trout is a good defensive center fielder with plus-plus speed, and his wheels are also a weapon on the basepaths because he’s an efficient basestealer. Trout tore through the Arizona League in his pro debut, showing an advanced approach for his age. He’s still growing into his power and his swing can get long at times, but he doesn’t swing and miss much, which combined with his plate discipline is an excellent start for a 19-year-old hitter.

5. Tony Sanchez, c, Pirates: Was Sanchez a consensus pick at fourth overall? No, but he’s still a fine catching prospect and performed well in his first taste of pro ball. Sanchez projects to stick at catcher as an above-average defender. He doesn’t have any plus tools at the plate, but as a catcher his solid-average offensive tools could make him a valuable player. Sanchez has a solid feel for the strike zone and for hitting, and he showed a steady middle-of-the-field approach in his pro debut. Sanchez is an instinctive player who has the potential to move through the system relatively quickly.

Avoid
Mike Minor, lhp, Braves: Minor went seventh overall in the 2009 draft and was the first college pitcher drafted after Strasburg. But on talent alone, Minor wasn’t the best available player on the board. He throws an average fastball and an above-average changeup, but he’s still trying to find a reliable breaking ball. He has an advanced idea of how to pitch, but while that skill set works well in college, the track record of pitchers with that package hasn’t been kind. Minor might end up as a back-of-the-rotation starter, but he also might top out as a fringy big leaguer.

Randall Grichuk, of, Angels: Power isn’t a question mark with Grichuk, who has proven himself to be a masher with good bat speed and strength as an amateur. But Grichuk is a below-average runner with a fringy arm, so his value will be tied up entirely in how much he can hit. That’s not a problem for a player with an elite bat, but Grichuk’s questionable approach at the plate is a major risk factor. Grichuk swings and misses at an alarming rate, and he doesn’t show the plate discipline to get into hitters’ counts and get on base.

Sleepers
Tanner Bushue, rhp, Astros: Houston went against the industry grain last year, taking high school righthander Jordan Lyles in the supplemental first round. Lyles looks like one of the better young pitching prospects in the game, and the Astros hope they have another hit with Bushue, another tall, athletic righthander. Bushue doesn't have overpowering velocity, sitting at 88-90 mph and touching 94, but he has youth, good size and and easy delivery, which could lead to better velocity down the road. He shows some feel to spin a curveball as well, though his breaking ball and his changeup will both need to progress.

Robert Stock, c, Cardinals: Stock has taken an atypical path for a college player, graduating from high school a year early so he could attend Southern California. Stock didn't dominate at college the way some expected him to, but his age might be a mitigating factor, as he will make his full-season debut as a 20-year-old with experience at an elite college program under his belt. Some teams preferred Stock as a pitcher (and some scouts still think he will end up on the mound) with a fastball that can hit 95 mph, but Stock hit well in his pro debut, showing a promising combination of contact-hitting skills and power from the left side. His receiving still needs work, but his arm is clearly a weapon behind the plate.


Feel free to ask questions here, and I am sure he will see them and maybe send a reply.
 

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Hey Ben thanks for the insight. I have 2 questions for you.

#1) What is your take on Robert Stock as a hitter? When I saw him this year he looked like he had a long swing. I wasn't sure how that would translate at higher levels.

#2) Being a Cubs fan and not having Brett Jackson in the set (Yes, I'm still bitter about it ;) ) what is your ceiling on DJ LeMahieu. Average everyday player or platoon type? He made great contact at Peoria last year just showed no power. How much do you see that changing?

Thanks for the time. Rob
 

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Pretty Outrageous "opinion" on Mike Minor.

He was top notch at Vandy, and Also pitched EXTREMELY well on the USA team.
And now in his pro showing before the AFL Winter League, his starts look pretty good.

0-1 but 0.64 ERA in 4 games. 14 IP. 10 H. 1 R. 1 ER. O BB 17 SO.
 

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Russ S. said:
Pretty Outrageous "opinion" on Mike Minor.

He was top notch at Vandy, and Also pitched EXTREMELY well on the USA team.
And now in his pro showing before the AFL Winter League, his starts look pretty good.

0-1 but 0.64 ERA in 4 games. 14 IP. 10 H. 1 R. 1 ER. O BB 17 SO.

From players I have talked to who play on Team USA, they have all said almost never put any stock in to stats when they play there since the competition they play is sub par. A player told me, "You practice with great players, and it's an amazing vacation. But does nothing to show what kind of player you are since you are playing against people who aren't even close to the talent level you play in college."
 

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I am shocked about the Minor opinion. This kid was a beast in the AFL and that is the first time that I have really heard anything negative about the kid.
 

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Ben, I'd be curious to get your evaluation of Matt Davidson and Mycal Jones.

Thanks.
 

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Three guys I am highest about that weren't top 5 picks =
Mitchell
Davidson
Minor

I will be using a majority of my pokerstars winnings this December and January stocking up on all 3 (although I think I have enough Davidson AFLAC)
 

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kentuckyderby said:
Three guys I am highest about that weren't top 5 picks =
Mitchell
Davidson
Minor

I will be using a majority of my pokerstars winnings this December and January stocking up on all 3 (although I think I have enough Davidson AFLAC)

Davidson :D
 

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Good read.
The Cardinals Staff is high on Stock.

i'll be looking to pick up a bgs 9 ref auto of his from this set
 

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Thanks for sharing your opinion's Ben, it is really cool that you've taken the time to do a write-up for the member's of this board! :D You have some good points & your thought's have not fallen upon deaf ear's although I do I have to disagree with your opinion's here on both of the player's listed under your "Avoid" section. Depending upon the buy-in value's, of Grichuk & Minor, they are two of the top player's that I'll be targetting as they are both the type of player's that look to have what it takes to be successful!

Thanks again Ben, I look forward to future post's of your thought's & personal opinion's!
Take care bud & may you & your family have a safe & Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!!!
Dave :D
 

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jbone17 said:
I am shocked about the Minor opinion. This kid was a beast in the AFL and that is the first time that I have really heard anything negative about the kid.


Publications have been saying this for a while now. His stuff isn't as good as the results. That kind of prospect doesn't do as well at the upper levels and big leagues.

He was widely considered an over draft where the Braves got him.
 

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Russ S. said:
Pretty Outrageous "opinion" on Mike Minor.

He was top notch at Vandy, and Also pitched EXTREMELY well on the USA team.
And now in his pro showing before the AFL Winter League, his starts look pretty good.

0-1 but 0.64 ERA in 4 games. 14 IP. 10 H. 1 R. 1 ER. O BB 17 SO.

his low ceiling evaluation on minor is quite accurate, and many other scouts and evaluators agree with him

keep in mind this is a professional writing this, and not just some guy off the street.
 

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cgilmo said:
Russ S. said:
Pretty Outrageous "opinion" on Mike Minor.

He was top notch at Vandy, and Also pitched EXTREMELY well on the USA team.
And now in his pro showing before the AFL Winter League, his starts look pretty good.

0-1 but 0.64 ERA in 4 games. 14 IP. 10 H. 1 R. 1 ER. O BB 17 SO.

his low ceiling evaluation on minor is quite accurate, and many other scouts and evaluators agree with him

keep in mind this is a professional writing this, and not just some guy off the street.

I do agree for the most part! BUT, not every prospect with overpowering, 60+ grade pitches across the board makes it either. Just as not every successful big league pitcher has Tommy hanson, or Tim Lincecum type stuff. There is plenty of room in an MLB rotation for guys with very average "stuff", considering most rotations have at least two of them.

How do you compare him to Dan Hudson? Most say his stuff is very average, but has excellent pitchability.

skrip
 

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ThoseBackPages said:
Good read.
The Cardinals Staff is high on Stock.

i'll be looking to pick up a bgs 9 ref auto of his from this set

I thought he was just in as a base card?

I really like Stock too, but where is he going to play?
 

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ThoseBackPages said:
Good read.
The Cardinals Staff is high on Stock.

i'll be looking to pick up a bgs 9 ref auto of his from this set

The Cardinals staff is high on every single one of their prospects. One of the columnists here has begun to refer to them as the faberge eggs.
 

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cgilmo said:
Russ S. said:
Pretty Outrageous "opinion" on Mike Minor.

He was top notch at Vandy, and Also pitched EXTREMELY well on the USA team.
And now in his pro showing before the AFL Winter League, his starts look pretty good.

0-1 but 0.64 ERA in 4 games. 14 IP. 10 H. 1 R. 1 ER. O BB 17 SO.

his low ceiling evaluation on minor is quite accurate, and many other scouts and evaluators agree with him

keep in mind this is a professional writing this, and not just some guy off the street.

Ow wow I didn't realize B.Badler was a scout, I thought he was a writer for BA. I guess ya learn something new everyday! :D
 

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Skorris CCBC said:
ThoseBackPages said:
Good read.
The Cardinals Staff is high on Stock.

i'll be looking to pick up a bgs 9 ref auto of his from this set

I thought he was just in as a base card?

I really like Stock too, but where is he going to play?

He also has an AFLAC Auto in the set.
 

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Somehow I'm not surprised at all that some on here are shocked at his (very accurate) assessment of Mike Minor.
 

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