best of basketball update

[Leaf]

We will be announcing this product soon.... 2012 Leaf Best of Basketball....

In 2011 Rookie Retro, we included 2007-2008 Kevin Durant rookies that were PSA slabbed authentic, but the autographs were stickers applied to previously released (not signed before) cards.....

We had a number of collectors who were not fond of these and originally planned to NOT include these in 2012 Best of Basketball....

HOWEVER, we have received numerous emails form collectors who have either pulled these or seen them pulled and asked if we will be releasing more.... The number of favorable emails has now far exceeded the number (5 to 1) of those who were not fond of the cards....

Therefore, we will be including these cards (which appear to be growing increasingly popular) in our Best of Basketball release...

Just wanted consumers to be aware prior to release in case it affects their buying decision... BG

*** SORRY TO POST IN THIS FORUM, BUT IT IS RELEVANT BASED ON PREVIOUS THREADS IN THIS FORUM.

 

[Pine Tar]

Interesting concept BG

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

So this is another set similar to rookie retro, but it will all be basketball?

Will there be any original Leaf cards included?

 

[Leaf]

So this is another set similar to rookie retro, but it will all be basketball?

Will there be any original Leaf cards included?

Yes.. Like retro (atcually, more like Best of baseball)... yes, there is a 20-30 card original Leaf autograph set including Pippen, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Magic Johnson and some surprises..

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

So this is another set similar to rookie retro, but it will all be basketball?

Will there be any original Leaf cards included?

Yes.. Like retro (atcually, more like Best of baseball)... yes, there is a 20-30 card original Leaf autograph set including Pippen, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Magic Johnson and some surprises..

Awesome. Any previews on the design of the Leaf cards? Will they be Metal? Stickers or on card autos?

 

[Slette]

Please tell me Charles Barkley = surprises!

 

[matfanofold]

Although the skeptics might say this is a bunch of BS, that LEAF never really planned to NOT include these, and the 5 to 1 ratio of favorable e-mails is a myth, in good faith I commend BG for catering to the popular opinion and giving collectors what they like. Is this product for me? Not really. Do I find the inclusion of hybred buy back / after market sticker cards to be desirable? No, not at all... But according to BG there is an overwhelming demand and support for them, so far be it for me (or anyone) to stand in the way of customer satisfaction!

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

Although the skeptics might say this is a bunch of BS, that LEAF never really planned to NOT include these, and the 5 to 1 ratio of favorable e-mails is a myth, in good faith I commend BG for catering to the popular opinion and giving collectors what they like. Is this product for me? Not really. Do I find the inclusion of hybred buy back / after market sticker cards to be desirable? No, not at all... But according to BG there is an overwhelming demand and support for them, so far be it for me (or anyone) to stand in the way of customer satisfaction!

This is the basketball board, we aren't as cranky as the baseball board.

 

[Leaf]

So this is another set similar to rookie retro, but it will all be basketball?

Will there be any original Leaf cards included?

Yes.. Like retro (atcually, more like Best of baseball)... yes, there is a 20-30 card original Leaf autograph set including Pippen, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Magic Johnson and some surprises..

Awesome. Any previews on the design of the Leaf cards? Will they be Metal? Stickers or on card autos?

Stickers, but a VERY solid checklist... BG

 

[Leaf]

Although the skeptics might say this is a bunch of BS, that LEAF never really planned to NOT include these, and the 5 to 1 ratio of favorable e-mails is a myth, in good faith I commend BG for catering to the popular opinion and giving collectors what they like. Is this product for me? Not really. Do I find the inclusion of hybred buy back / after market sticker cards to be desirable? No, not at all... But according to BG there is an overwhelming demand and support for them, so far be it for me (or anyone) to stand in the way of customer satisfaction!

If you look on ebay, these cards are selling very nicely....
Durant is on fire and collectors have told us they like these in an overwhelming majority.

Honestly, the only negative comments came from FCB people (and only a handful at that)...

I just have to think thes eprovide better resale value (at our cost) than the Kevin Garnett Upper Deck autograph card that it replaces...

Most importantly, this should serve as no surprise on release and that is key ,,,BG

 

[Leaf]

Although the skeptics might say this is a bunch of BS, that LEAF never really planned to NOT include these, and the 5 to 1 ratio of favorable e-mails is a myth, in good faith I commend BG for catering to the popular opinion and giving collectors what they like. Is this product for me? Not really. Do I find the inclusion of hybred buy back / after market sticker cards to be desirable? No, not at all... But according to BG there is an overwhelming demand and support for them, so far be it for me (or anyone) to stand in the way of customer satisfaction!

This is the basketball board, we aren't as cranky as the baseball board.

I love the crew in this thread... so civil!... BG

 

[bigeric]

So this is another set similar to rookie retro, but it will all be basketball?

Will there be any original Leaf cards included?

Yes.. Like retro (atcually, more like Best of baseball)... yes, there is a 20-30 card original Leaf autograph set including Pippen, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Magic Johnson and some surprises..

will their be rookie autos in the set?

 

[DaveH]

why not just buy game-used band-aids from players. have the players sign them and then stick em on some cards.

game used and sticker autos... with a hint of DNA.

 

[Orangejello727]

Im a bit intrigued by this product.

2 major questions. With MJ and Lebron exclusive to UD and Kobe exclusive to Panini, will there be Autos of these players? I know you cant have them sign but that doesnt stop you guys from re issuing past autos in cut format or any other ways.

Im hoping there are deceased players in the Auto checklist from on card autos that were psa/dna. Namely Wilt, Pistol Pete, Reggie Lewis, Drazen Petrovic etc. The hobby lack many of these autos as many people have been working on completing their top 50 plays in the NBA checklist.

Im a huge fan of Barkley. But dont want to see him sign. Dont want his autos being watered down due to an increase in population.

 

[goldenegg1]

I was one of the few that did not care for the aftermarket UD sticker placed on a Topps rookie card, and I voiced my opinion in that thread, I was very civil too. I still hate the idea of calling a sticker placed on a card a "buyback." But I do commend you for letting us know prior to release. I would never purchase any of these Durant cards because they simply do not make sense, and I think the longterm value of the card will decrease.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

Just to be fair, if any of those Durant's that I saw were actually produced by Topps when Durant was a rookie then the cards would have still featured a sticker autograph.

 

[P_Manning 18]

Just to be fair, if any of those Durant's that I saw were actually produced by Topps when Durant was a rookie then the cards would have still featured a sticker autograph.

Durant was an exclusive to Upper Deck. These are Upper Deck stickers....

Do we know who put these stickers on? Is it Brian? Or were they bought like this already PSA'd?

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

Just to be fair, if any of those Durant's that I saw were actually produced by Topps when Durant was a rookie then the cards would have still featured a sticker autograph.

Durant was an exclusive to Upper Deck. These are Upper Deck stickers....

Do we know who put these stickers on? Is it Brian? Or were they bought like this already PSA'd?

I thought the issue was people complaining about the use of stickers not who produced them. I thought Brian had said he was able to purchase these stickers and then Leaf used them to make these cards.

 

[P_Manning 18]

Oh he did.

But 5 to 1 is a big number.... no one has an issue with him buying a $15 Durant Chrome RC and putting these stickers on.

They sell for $80-100 so thats all that matters