Best starting rotations of all time??

[scotty21690]

Bored so I decided I would make a thread.

Let's discuss the best starting rotations of all time.


I will start...


1907 Detroit Tigers

George Mullin: 20-20, 2.59 ERA
Ed Killian: 25-13, 1.78 ERA
Ed Siever: 18-11 2.16 ERA
Bill Donovan: 25-4, 2.19 ERA

They lost the World Series but man that was a heck of a staff right there. I suppose it didn't hurt they had Ty Cobb and Sam Crawford!


Let's see some others!

 

[trademhigh]

When the orioles had 4 20 game winners?
Dobson, (Qualer, spelling?), Mcnally, Palmer.

 

[scotty21690]

When the orioles had 4 20 game winners?

Year?

 

[trademhigh]

When the orioles had 4 20 game winners?

Year?

Pretty sure it was 71. Could have been 72, but I think 71.

 

[383astro]

When the orioles had 4 20 game winners?

that was like 75 wasnt it?

I vote for the mid 90s Braves. Hard to beat Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Neagle, etc, except in the WS...


edited: It was 71, man what a team

 

[fengzhang]

Bored so I decided I would make a thread.

Let's discuss the best starting rotations of all time.


I will start...


1907 Detroit Tigers

George Mullin: 20-20, 2.59 ERA
Ed Killian: 25-13, 1.78 ERA
Ed Siever: 18-11 2.16 ERA
Bill Donovan: 25-4, 2.19 ERA

They lost the World Series but man that was a heck of a staff right there. I suppose it didn't hurt they had Ty Cobb and Sam Crawford!


Let's see some others!

I'm not really sure if it's applicable to compare stats from so long ago to today's standards. As you can tell from the records, clearly a 2.59 ERA didn't mean the same thing back then as it does today. In fact, in 1907, 2.59 was the league average. So, George Mullin had the equivalent of a 4.3 ERA today and hence his 20-20 record.

 

[scotty21690]

1971 Baltimore Orioles

Mike Cuellar: 20-9, 3.08 ERA
Pat Dobson: 20-8, 2.90 ERA
Jim Palmer: 20-9, 2.68 ERA
Dave McNally: 21-5, 2.89 ERA

 

[trademhigh]

1971 Baltimore Orioles

Mike Cuellar: 20-9, 3.08 ERA
Pat Dobson: 20-8, 2.90 ERA
Jim Palmer: 20-9, 2.68 ERA
Dave McNally: 21-5, 2.89 ERA

Nice, I was right! It was 71. I think that has to be the best staff.

 

[blitzerlover]

Mid 90's Braves were the best long term. As for a one year I vote 71 O's.

 

[scotty21690]

Bored so I decided I would make a thread.

Let's discuss the best starting rotations of all time.


I will start...


1907 Detroit Tigers

George Mullin: 20-20, 2.59 ERA
Ed Killian: 25-13, 1.78 ERA
Ed Siever: 18-11 2.16 ERA
Bill Donovan: 25-4, 2.19 ERA

They lost the World Series but man that was a heck of a staff right there. I suppose it didn't hurt they had Ty Cobb and Sam Crawford!


Let's see some others!

I'm not really sure if it's applicable to compare stats from so long ago to today's standards. As you can tell from the records, clearly a 2.59 ERA didn't mean the same thing back then as it does today. In fact, in 1907, 2.59 was the league average. So, George Mullin had the equivalent of a 4.3 ERA today and hence his 20-20 record.

What can I say, I was bored and thought it would make good discussion. I was browsing baseballreference today and came across that staff and was impressed. I did not take into account the league average, thanks for pointing that out. And it's an opinion thread, no right or wrong answer...care to post a staff?

 

[scotty21690]

Mid 90's Braves were the best long term. As for a one year I vote 71 O's.

Yes 90's Braves was the best I'd say...which year was their best though??

 

[blitzerlover]

Mid 90's Braves were the best long term. As for a one year I vote 71 O's.

Yes 90's Braves was the best I'd say...which year was their best though??

96 was the best year for Smoltz, Maddux and Glavine combined. The problem was that the other 2 starters didn't really do that great.

 

[383astro]

Id say 93 was the best for the Braves rotation

Maddux 20-10
Glavine 22-6
Avery 18-6
Smoltz 15-11

 

[383astro]

Braves in 1998 was also pretty good.

SP Greg Maddux 2.22 18-9
SP *Tom Glavine 2.47 20-6
SP *Denny Neagle 3.55 16-11
SP Kevin Millwood 4.08 17-8
SP John Smoltz 2.90 17-3

 

[bouwob]

How about the 96 tigers

Felipe Lira 5.22 6/14
Omar Olivares 4.89 7/11
Greg Gohr 7.17 4/8
Justin Thompson 4.58 1/ 6
Todd Van Poppel 11.39 2/4
Scott Aldred 9.35 0/4

 

[jeremy]

2003 tigers

 

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I agree with the Braves....you have two sure and maybe a third HOF pitcher in one rotation.

 

[P_Manning 18]

I agree with the Braves....you have two sure and maybe a third HOF pitcher in one rotation.

Which one is the one on the fence?

Maddux is HOF no doubt - no need to list any stats
Glavine is HOF no doubt - 305 wins
Smoltz is HOF no doubt - 210 wins 154 saves - Not sure... but I doubt any other pitcher has hit those 2 #s

 

[scotty21690]

2003 tigers

They actually crossed my mind as being one of the worst. :lol:

 

[383astro]

I agree with the Braves....you have two sure and maybe a third HOF pitcher in one rotation.

Which one is the one on the fence?

Maddux is HOF no doubt - no need to list any stats
Glavine is HOF no doubt - 305 wins
Smoltz is HOF no doubt - 210 wins 154 saves - Not sure... but I doubt any other pitcher has hit those 2 #s

Eck won 197 and had 390 saves