BGS 9.0 Sell or Crack?

[Wes]

What do you do if selling?

 

[brouthercard]

It really depends what card and from what set you are talking about.

 

[Wes]

It really depends what card and from what set you are talking about.

Assume Bowman Chromes and Sterlings...

 

[brouthercard]

It really depends what card and from what set you are talking about.

Assume Bowman Chromes and Sterlings...

If the centering is good, then crack and sell raw.

If the centering is bad, keep it slabbed.

 

[Wes]

It really depends what card and from what set you are talking about.

Assume Bowman Chromes and Sterlings...

If the centering is good, then crack and sell raw.

If the centering is bad, keep it slabbed.

Short and sweet - and logical. Thanked!

 

[cardboardGIANTS]

How close is it to a 9.5? 10 auto?

If close...resub with FCB order.

Otherwise, crack and sell raw.

 

[Jeff D]

I vote sell as 9. If you're not going to sell cards as 9's, just ask for a min grade of 9.5 when you sub.

I don't think it's immoral (or wrong per se) but I feel cracking it is a bit dishonest to the buyers. It's like you're pretending the card could be something it isn't. We all know grading can be a crap shoot, but it just seems like you're kind of pulling a fast one in hopes that people will think the card COULD be better than it really has proven to be.

 

[brouthercard]

I vote sell as 9. If you're not going to sell cards as 9's, just ask for a min grade of 9.5 when you sub.

I don't think it's immoral (or wrong per se) but I feel cracking it is a bit dishonest to the buyers. It's like you're pretending the card could be something it isn't. We all know grading can be a crap shoot, but it just seems like you're kind of pulling a fast one in hopes that people will think the card COULD be better than it really has proven to be.

But who is to say that the next guy who submits the exact same card won't get a 9.5?

I've seen this unfortunately too many times.

Grading by this company is dishonest.........

 

[Wes]

I vote sell as 9. If you're not going to sell cards as 9's, just ask for a min grade of 9.5 when you sub.

I don't think it's immoral (or wrong per se) but I feel cracking it is a bit dishonest to the buyers. It's like you're pretending the card could be something it isn't. We all know grading can be a crap shoot, but it just seems like you're kind of pulling a fast one in hopes that people will think the card COULD be better than it really has proven to be.

My sense is that the bolded may actually be true, as brouthercard already said... Such is the way of subjective grading...

 

[mredsox89]

[quote="Jeff D"]I vote sell as 9. If you're not going to sell cards as 9's, just ask for a min grade of 9.5 when you sub.

I don't think it's immoral (or wrong per se) but I feel cracking it is a bit dishonest to the buyers. It's like you're pretending the card could be something it isn't. We all know grading can be a crap shoot, but it just seems like you're kind of pulling a fast one in hopes that people will think the card COULD be better than it really has proven to be.[/quote]

But if you are not getting some sort of deal for cards that dont meet the MG, at least you get to see what you missed.

 

[Jeff D]

I vote sell as 9. If you're not going to sell cards as 9's, just ask for a min grade of 9.5 when you sub.

I don't think it's immoral (or wrong per se) but I feel cracking it is a bit dishonest to the buyers. It's like you're pretending the card could be something it isn't. We all know grading can be a crap shoot, but it just seems like you're kind of pulling a fast one in hopes that people will think the card COULD be better than it really has proven to be.

But who is to say that the next guy who submits the exact same card won't get a 9.5?

That's why I said that grading is a crap shoot. What if when t was submitted to PSA it came back as evidence of trimming. Could you say possible BGS 9.5? Cards are labeled altered often when they aren't, so is it ok not to disclose this?

Obviously my example is a bit extreme (and I mentioned that it's not nec. WRONG to not disclose the 9), but it seems a little disingenuous.

And if we all know any card can come back a 9 or 9.5 on any given day, why not leave it in the 9 holder? At least we know it won't come back a 7 for some surface scratch, or worse yet, altered

 

[Big Mac McGwire]

crack and sell raw

 

[lisu]

I've had cards that were 8.5 come back as 9.5, so I don't see anything wrong with cracking a card out that is 8.5 + and selling as raw as in NM condition.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

If grading cards were a perfect science then cracking would be wrong. Since it is nowhere close to that I don't see the downside of cracking it.

 

[All The Hype]

A 9 is actually a great grade for a card. It's just too bad they don't sell that way.

 

[lambert58]

I'm glad to see this topic as this is something that has I have been wondering about for some time. When I 1st saw a graded card at a big show it was an 1982 Fleer PSA 10 Ripken. The guy wanted like $8k for it, I think....this was a long time ago. Anyway, I am curious why cards sell Raw for more or the same as a 9 graded. It used to be an 8 was what a Raw card sold for. How did this change and when did it change?

 

[bballcardkid]

I'm glad to see this topic as this is something that has I have been wondering about for some time. When I 1st saw a graded card at a big show it was an 1982 Fleer PSA 10 Ripken. The guy wanted like $8k for it, I think....this was a long time ago. Anyway, I am curious why cards sell Raw for more or the same as a 9 graded. It used to be an 8 was what a Raw card sold for. How did this change and when did it change?

It changed when the process of grading cards became more lenient with their scale. More 9s and 9.5s means premiums paid for these grades decreases. Even grading fees decrease (something we have noticed recently) as the incentive to grade a card is decreased due to the reduced premium.