BIGBOYDSPORTSCARDS a shiller ??

[VizquelCollector.com]

how does sniping stop shilling?? i dont see the correlation

It doesn't. It's a common misconception. I have been shilled on many auctions I have sniped. As a matter of fact, what would stop the shill from using a snipe program themselves.

It certainly MAY help, but it depends on the seller and how he's shilling. If you snipe and it's above the previous shilled bid, the seller doesn't have a chance to manually shill the auction back up. But he may have a snipe or high shill bid already set, in which case sniping may not help you at all.

The shill bid will be placed no matter what. A snipe doesn't change anything unless the shill-bidder is a complete moron and won't place the shill-bid unless there is already a bid. Don't you think someone crafty enough to break the law by shill bidding knows about sniping? Like I said, I have been shilled on numerous occasions on sniped auctions. The shill simply places a bid for the price he wants either right-away or right at the end. My snipes didn't stop me from being shilled. Plus, a lot of shill bids are simply snipes set by the shill-bidder.

I agree with you. Just adding that it does happen, and a sniping program can only help in general. It doesn't take someone crafty to get a friend to bid on their stuff. There are some pretty dumb sellers out there!

 

[TheAdamTing]

been following a few of his auctions, and was bidding on a couple & gave up after i noticed, they were just being blown out of proportion. Some going for almost double market, couple examples:

http://cgi.ebay.com/JAHVID-BEST-2010-10 ... 4cf4bdae05

this item usually goes for about $35, love the bidder with 100% bid activity with the seller , now this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &viewitem=

this item goes for $30-35 pretty consistently, winning bidder has almost 30 % of his 132 recent bids on bigboydsportscards items.

Just frustrated with shilling, i know there is always the chance of 2 bidders going back and forth trying to win an item, but the jahvid best is pretty bad with the 100% bid activity.

Just wondering if anyone else has had any issues with bigboydsportscards?

Total Shiller. He even uses other eBay handles to bid his own up & will win it himself & cancel the transaction if he doesn't get the amount he wants. Other handles r versions of his original, like bigboysportscard3
Guys like him ruin the hobby. He doesn't have a real Twitter for a reason.
& he does something else, but I won't post it until I have exact proof.
Advice: Don't deal w/ the guy, let the newbies on eBay get screwed.

This is also EBay's fault. Multiple people have pointed him out to them & they do nothing. My fees must go to running for Governor & losing. Lol

 

[u2me57]

I'm not sure about the shilling but he is the 1st ebay seller I ever had a problem with.

 

[fordman]

Never had an issue with the guy but he knows that I know where he lives just north of Cincinnati, OH.

Sell me your Jay Bruce cards!

 

[Bob M]

What is a good sniper program to use? I had one a couple of years ago but it stopped working.

 

[Casebusters]

www.auctionstealer.com

 

[Pine Tar]

Gixen.com and free too.

 

[smapdi]

If you place a $100 bid on a card a week before an auction ends, someone can come along and bid you up to your max, retract the last bid, and push you right up to your max.

If you place your bid 5 seconds before the auction ends, they can't do all that. They might hit your max, they might outbid you, but the likely outcome is you save at least something off your top bid.

If no one bids on an auction until right at the end, the shiller probably won't enter a bid, either. If they do, they'll have no guidance for what the top bid might be.

So in all, there is nothing lost, and potentially some gain, from sniping.

AFAIK, I've bought from bigboyd and not had any questions about the transaction or price paid. But I snipe 99.9% of the time, and I'm rarely bidding on anything that might draw such activity, I think. But his name always comes up. Whether he is doing it or it's the consignors he sells for is also difficult to determine.

 

[MansGame]

I'm sorry but I find it funny that a thread goes unseen for almost four years to the day and then someone bumps it using their 1st and only post on the site. I don't really care but it does have me scratching my head. Not to mention I can think of probably a half dozen threads about BigBoyd since this thread was created four years ago, including one of my own.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

Absolutely!

 

[WCTYSON]

If you place a $100 bid on a card a week before an auction ends, someone can come along and bid you up to your max, retract the last bid, and push you right up to your max.

If you place your bid 5 seconds before the auction ends, they can't do all that. They might hit your max, they might outbid you, but the likely outcome is you save at least something off your top bid.

If no one bids on an auction until right at the end, the shiller probably won't enter a bid, either. If they do, they'll have no guidance for what the top bid might be.

So in all, there is nothing lost, and potentially some gain, from sniping.

AFAIK, I've bought from bigboyd and not had any questions about the transaction or price paid. But I snipe 99.9% of the time, and I'm rarely bidding on anything that might draw such activity, I think. But his name always comes up. Whether he is doing it or it's the consignors he sells for is also difficult to determine.

This is shilling. So yes, there is something lost for the buyer and certainly gained for the seller.

 

[hive17]

I always got the sense that people who feel they were shilled are people who ended up paying more than they wanted to for an item. If you only want to pay so much, set your snipe for it. You're effectively complaining about a price YOU agreed to pay, regardless if the auction was shilled or not. YOU can set the max value with your bid/snipe, and that's the most you'll have to pay. You can't pay "more" if you set a snipe for a certain level.

People who feel cheated by shillers are obviously spending more than they should.

 

[WCTYSON]

I always got the sense that people who feel they were shilled are people who ended up paying more than they wanted to for an item. If you only want to pay so much, set your snipe for it. You're effectively complaining about a price YOU agreed to pay, regardless if the auction was shilled or not. YOU can set the max value with your bid/snipe, and that's the most you'll have to pay. You can't pay "more" if you set a snipe for a certain level.

People who feel cheated by shillers are obviously spending more than they should.

While I agree with some of this, shilling misrepresents the market value of an item.

 

[hive17]

While I agree with some of this, shilling misrepresents the market value of an item.

Something is only worth what someone will pay. To your point, that applies when some shills and cancels and others fold that price into the market value. But when you win and you were shilled, you are 50% responsible for setting that market share; and if it's more than you were willing to pay, you have a money problem.

 

[WCTYSON]

Something is only worth what someone will pay. To your point, that applies when some shills and cancels and others fold that price into the market value. But when you win and you were shilled, you are 50% responsible for setting that market share; and if it's more than you were willing to pay, you have a money problem.

I disagree. What you are willing to pay, is not the determining factor of market value. There are others in the market place and the inflated price misleads other buyers on the value of the item. I see your point on paying what you can afford to pay but it is market manipulation.

 

[jcmint]

This happens in almost every industry imaginable. It sucks but it is what it is. Wanna see someone who shills worse this this clown rochchestersports sells auto jerseys. It's the worse case of schilling I ever saw

 

[bigboydsportscards3]

Total Shiller. He even uses other eBay handles to bid his own up & will win it himself & cancel the transaction if he doesn't get the amount he wants. Other handles r versions of his original, like bigboysportscard3
Guys like him ruin the hobby. He doesn't have a real Twitter for a reason.
& he does something else, but I won't post it until I have exact proof.
Advice: Don't deal w/ the guy, let the newbies on eBay get screwed.


This is also EBay's fault. Multiple people have pointed him out to them & they do nothing. My fees must go to running for Governor & losing. Lol

Not one thing you said is true. We have never bid on our own auction. We do have other eBay names.. all with same handle.. all with same contact info and used on same computer. We do have a twitter account.

Whether he is doing it or it's the consignors he sells for is also difficult to determine.

We do not sell items on consignment. Have not sold a consigned item in over 2 years. None of our items are shill bid. Any questions, as always, contact me directly and will answer your questions. Email or phone.