Boston trading Rondo?

[Tomlinson21RB]

So a recent report had Ainge saying he'd be willing to move Rondo if it added another scorer to put next to Pierce. I mostly figured it was just him saying anyone is available for the right deal. I also didn't think the players Boston would take for Rondo would be available.

Now the local sports talks are saying sources are saying Ainge is looking for a 3 way deal to get Chris Paul, with Rondo being the main piece from the Celtics. I'm one of the biggest Rondo fans out there, but if this worked I'd be thrilled. Obviously, Ainge doesn't do the deal unless Paul extends long term. So that gives the Celtics Paul, Allen, Pierce and KG this year, but it gives some more hope to the future. With KG off the books after this year, could Pierce, Paul and Doc Rivers be enough to lure Dwight Howard to come to Boston?

 

[ljw29]

Love to see him go elsewhere and watch him be half the player people think he is without the surrounding cast

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

Love to see him go elsewhere and watch him be half the player people think he is without the surrounding cast

Rondo has some serious flaws in his game, and he's benefited from playing with great players. At the same time, he has carried the team offensively, defensively or on both ends of the court for stretches throughout his career. He played his best ball when KG went down a couple years ago, and had triple doubles in almost every game against the Bulls in the playoffs.

People are going to think what they do about Rondo, and it comes down to two things:

1. Chicken or the egg? In other words, did Rondo's unselfishness and court vision allow the big 3 to gel the way they did and put up better numbers? Or would the big 3 have done exactly what they did with any mediocre point guard?

2. What is the role of a point guard? Does a point guard need to score 30 to be great, or does being an efficient scorer, great passer, good rebounder, and great defensive player balance out the lack of scoring?

But the debate isn't worth having. I've watched Rondo 60+ games a year the last 4 years, and I know what I see. It's completely the opposite of what you believe, but I'm sure you have you're reasons too.

 

[ljw29]

Love to see him go elsewhere and watch him be half the player people think he is without the surrounding cast

Rondo has some serious flaws in his game, and he's benefited from playing with great players. At the same time, he has carried the team offensively, defensively or on both ends of the court for stretches throughout his career. He played his best ball when KG went down a couple years ago, and had triple doubles in almost every game against the Bulls in the playoffs.

People are going to think what they do about Rondo, and it comes down to two things:

1. Chicken or the egg? In other words, did Rondo's unselfishness and court vision allow the big 3 to gel the way they did and put up better numbers? Or would the big 3 have done exactly what they did with any mediocre point guard?

2. What is the role of a point guard? Does a point guard need to score 30 to be great, or does being an efficient scorer, great passer, good rebounder, and great defensive player balance out the lack of scoring?

But the debate isn't worth having. I've watched Rondo 60+ games a year the last 4 years, and I know what I see. It's completely the opposite of what you believe, but I'm sure you have you're reasons too.

Watched him probably 20 a year, I dont think hes that good a player and is why I want to see him traded and exposed

 

[Weimer]

Please God, do not let that trade happen. I like Chris Paul a lot and do not want to see him play for the Celtics. :evil:

 

[Rickzcards]

Love to see him go elsewhere and watch him be half the player people think he is without the surrounding cast

Rondo has some serious flaws in his game, and he's benefited from playing with great players. At the same time, he has carried the team offensively, defensively or on both ends of the court for stretches throughout his career. He played his best ball when KG went down a couple years ago, and had triple doubles in almost every game against the Bulls in the playoffs.

People are going to think what they do about Rondo, and it comes down to two things:

1. Chicken or the egg? In other words, did Rondo's unselfishness and court vision allow the big 3 to gel the way they did and put up better numbers? Or would the big 3 have done exactly what they did with any mediocre point guard?

2. What is the role of a point guard? Does a point guard need to score 30 to be great, or does being an efficient scorer, great passer, good rebounder, and great defensive player balance out the lack of scoring?

But the debate isn't worth having. I've watched Rondo 60+ games a year the last 4 years, and I know what I see. It's completely the opposite of what you believe, but I'm sure you have you're reasons too.

Watched him probably 20 a year, I dont think hes that good a player and is why I want to see him traded and exposed

Rondo is a good player just not a great player, and you're right, lot's of weaknesses in his game. Too many Celtics homers on here that always defend him though. I really doubt that a trade involving Rondo can land the Celts Paul, even with a third team involved.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

Love to see him go elsewhere and watch him be half the player people think he is without the surrounding cast

Rondo has some serious flaws in his game, and he's benefited from playing with great players. At the same time, he has carried the team offensively, defensively or on both ends of the court for stretches throughout his career. He played his best ball when KG went down a couple years ago, and had triple doubles in almost every game against the Bulls in the playoffs.

People are going to think what they do about Rondo, and it comes down to two things:

1. Chicken or the egg? In other words, did Rondo's unselfishness and court vision allow the big 3 to gel the way they did and put up better numbers? Or would the big 3 have done exactly what they did with any mediocre point guard?

2. What is the role of a point guard? Does a point guard need to score 30 to be great, or does being an efficient scorer, great passer, good rebounder, and great defensive player balance out the lack of scoring?

But the debate isn't worth having. I've watched Rondo 60+ games a year the last 4 years, and I know what I see. It's completely the opposite of what you believe, but I'm sure you have you're reasons too.

Watched him probably 20 a year, I dont think hes that good a player and is why I want to see him traded and exposed

Rondo is a good player just not a great player, and you're right, lot's of weaknesses in his game. Too many Celtics homers on here that always defend him though. I really doubt that a trade involving Rondo can land the Celts Paul, even with a third team involved.

I don't think there are too many of any team's homers on the basketball board since there are about 3 people total.

I don't know if I'd say lot's of weaknesses, but I do see them. I'd rather him on my team than most of the point guards in the league.

I don't think the trade is an easy one, but if Paul wants to leave then NO will want to trade him instead of getting nothing. If they could get Rondo, they'd get an all-star with championship experience who is locked up for 4 more years at a very reasonable salary. They'd also get someone like Glen Davis, who has looked like a legitimate 6th man at times and at times he's looked very mediocre. If they get the good Glen Davis and Rondo locked up it's not a bad deal. The Celtics also have some decent picks they could trade.

 

[Huffamaniac]

From an article I jsut read

All of the chatter about Boston's interest in Chris Paul is a moot point because the All-Star point guard will not sign a long-term contract extension with the Celtics, according to a person close to the situation.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

From an article I jsut read

All of the chatter about Boston's interest in Chris Paul is a moot point because the All-Star point guard will not sign a long-term contract extension with the Celtics, according to a person close to the situation.

Interesting. KG did say the same thing, but the Celtics got Allen and were able to convince him. If they were able to work out a deal and Doc, KG, Ray, Pierce and Ainge were able to talk to him he may change his mind. I always thought it seemed like a tough trade to work out with the players and contracts involved.

 

[Weimer]

I don't think them talking to him would make much of a difference for the reason the article stated. That being, KG and Ray Allen's contracts are up after this season and they will both most likely retire or sign a one year deal somewhere and that will be about it. The Celtics will be in full blown rebuild mode once they leave because Paul Pierce would be the only guy left if they dealt Rondo and some other guys for Chris Paul.

So he would be coming into a situation where it's him and Paul Pierce and a bunch of role players and nobodies. I wouldn't want to put myself in that situation either, as he would be trading basically the same situation in New Orleans for the situation in Boston, the only difference being the location.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

I don't think them talking to him would make much of a difference for the reason the article stated. That being, KG and Ray Allen's contracts are up after this season and they will both most likely retire or sign a one year deal somewhere and that will be about it. The Celtics will be in full blown rebuild mode once they leave because Paul Pierce would be the only guy left if they dealt Rondo and some other guys for Chris Paul.

So he would be coming into a situation where it's him and Paul Pierce and a bunch of role players and nobodies. I wouldn't want to put myself in that situation either, as he would be trading basically the same situation in New Orleans for the situation in Boston, the only difference being the location.

But they also would have $30 million in salary coming off the books when KG and Ray's contracts are up. I think any pitch they make to someone they would trade for would be the idea of using that 30 million to get a max contract guy after this year. That's the difference between NO and Boston. Chance to win this year, and a solid rebuilding plan.

The more I look at the Celtics situation the more I don't think they have a chance of any significant moves, so I'm leaning more towards the no chance camp now.