Call me crazy-but I'm taking the Tigers to win ALCS in 7

[nborton]

This series is closer than a typical 3-1 series. I can see the reasoning, but winning 3 straight is going to be tough no matter who is pitching. Although, baseball unlike other sports is easier to come back down 3-1 because it's very dependent on who starts. And like you mentioned you have to like the Tigers starters. They have to get leads early though. That's the only way they make it interesting.

 

[hail2thevictors]

Not saying it will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised. Also, I feel as if the Tigers had a shot at winning all three games they lost, but in the end, allowed the games to slip away.

I agree. We could have easily won all 4 games. But, that is how it goes. These 2 teams are very evenly matched.

I guess my point is that I like our pitching matchups in each game. But being down 3-1 leaves no margin for error. But if Verlander can get by today, I really like our chances.

Seeing a game 7 would be nuts, especially with Fister going. Gotta just take it 1 game at a time. Verlander needs to get it rolling today.

I love when fans talk themselves in to believing irrational things

I guess that's why it's called faith

And what exactly is irrational about this?

Scherzer, and Fister are throwing the ball very, very well-especially Fister. Verlander threw well today.

In related news, we are on to a Game 6. This thing starts to squeeze tighter and tighter on the Rangers.

 

[lisu]

Not saying it will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised. Also, I feel as if the Tigers had a shot at winning all three games they lost, but in the end, allowed the games to slip away.

I agree. We could have easily won all 4 games. But, that is how it goes. These 2 teams are very evenly matched.

I guess my point is that I like our pitching matchups in each game. But being down 3-1 leaves no margin for error. But if Verlander can get by today, I really like our chances.

Seeing a game 7 would be nuts, especially with Fister going. Gotta just take it 1 game at a time. Verlander needs to get it rolling today.

I love when fans talk themselves in to believing irrational things

I guess that's why it's called faith

And what exactly is irrational about this?

Scherzer, and Fister are throwing the ball very, very well-especially Fister. Verlander threw well today.

In related news, we are on to a Game 6. This thing starts to squeeze tighter and tighter on the Rangers.

I hope the Tigers can do it. I love that all the series are well matched.

 

[TomMurry]

Not saying it will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised. Also, I feel as if the Tigers had a shot at winning all three games they lost, but in the end, allowed the games to slip away.

I agree. We could have easily won all 4 games. But, that is how it goes. These 2 teams are very evenly matched.

I guess my point is that I like our pitching matchups in each game. But being down 3-1 leaves no margin for error. But if Verlander can get by today, I really like our chances.

Seeing a game 7 would be nuts, especially with Fister going. Gotta just take it 1 game at a time. Verlander needs to get it rolling today.

I love when fans talk themselves in to believing irrational things

I guess that's why it's called faith

How is it irrational? Maybe unlikely, but irrational isnt the right word here.

 

[hail2thevictors]

Not saying it will happen, but I wouldn't be surprised. Also, I feel as if the Tigers had a shot at winning all three games they lost, but in the end, allowed the games to slip away.

I agree. We could have easily won all 4 games. But, that is how it goes. These 2 teams are very evenly matched.

I guess my point is that I like our pitching matchups in each game. But being down 3-1 leaves no margin for error. But if Verlander can get by today, I really like our chances.

Seeing a game 7 would be nuts, especially with Fister going. Gotta just take it 1 game at a time. Verlander needs to get it rolling today.

I love when fans talk themselves in to believing irrational things

I guess that's why it's called faith

How is it irrational? Maybe unlikely, but irrational isnt the right word here.

Glad someone else sees this. When you have pitching matchups of:

Verlander vs Wilson
Scherzer vs Holland
Fister vs Lewis

I don't understand how it is irrational to reason that the Tigers could come back in this thing. As I said in my 1st post-the margin for error is about zero, so you can't afford to have a bad outing from our starters, or relievers. If we get to the Rangers starters, the bullpen becomes much less of a force. Our starters have been much better than I anticipated against the loaded Rangers lineup. Holland and Lewis both have shown flashes of dominance, but I'll take my chances with them. This is going to be very interesting.

 

[James52411]

Tigers still have a shot obviously, but they better have a lead heading into the 6th because the Rangers bullpen is superior to what Detroit has. I'd much rather be the Rangers and up 3-2, heading home, and having split with Verlander during the series.

PS: You make yourself seem silly when you imply the Rangers have all this pressure on them but the Tigers don't. Both teams have pressure. It was the Tigers center fielder who dropped a fly ball in today's game.

 

[All The Hype]

I didn't have a chance to post yesterday but I would have agreed with you completely, and still do...even down 3 games to 1.


I thought Verlander would have been a little better than he was today, although minus the homerun to Cruz, he pitched very well. I still feel like it's almost automatic every time he's on the mound, even though he has proved to be human this postseason.

Scherzer is inconsistent, but he has been very tough during the postseason. The bats will need to be there tomorrow, but they roughed up Holland early in game 2, so I don't see why they can't do that again in game 6.

Fister is the best pitcher on our staff right now, so if it gets to game 7, I think the momentum all goes to the Tigers, even though it will be an away game.

So bottom line, if the Tigers' pitchers are on top of their game, I like their chances. If not, the Rangers are gonna be really tough to come back against.

This has been a great series to watch and I hope it goes to a game 7 regardless of who wins. There's nothing better than playoff baseball!!

 

[bouwob]

I think the biggest issue is that they are going back to texas. The tigers have maybe 3 guys who can hit home runs consistently. the rangers definitely have 6 who will all start every game.

They say good pitching beats good hitting, but going back to a hitters park give the advantage to the hitting team.

 

[hofautos]

IT will go to 7 games, but valverde will give up a walk off hit in bottom of the 9th.

There you got your answer.

 

[hail2thevictors]

Tigers still have a shot obviously, but they better have a lead heading into the 6th because the Rangers bullpen is superior to what Detroit has. I'd much rather be the Rangers and up 3-2, heading home, and having split with Verlander during the series.

PS: You make yourself seem silly when you imply the Rangers have all this pressure on them but the Tigers don't. Both teams have pressure. It was the Tigers center fielder who dropped a fly ball in today's game.

Obviously you would rather be up 3-2.

However, my point is that we possess the better starting pitching, as it stands right now. Scherzer is inconsistent, though, and could have that dud of a start that he is capable of having. In terms of the bullpen, the key is that our starter goes at least 6 innings, 7+ if possible. I tell you what, I will put Benoit and Valverde up against Ogando and Feliz ALL day. Sure, the Texas pen is deeper-but I will take Benoit and Valverde all day long. That is the key, we can't be using any RP's except Benoit, Valverde, and maybe Coke. Outside of those guys, it's a disaster.

And yes, both teams have pressure. I never said the Tigers don't have pressure. My point is, each win by the Tigers and the Rangers have got to feel a greater sense of urgency. One more and this thing is squared up. And good pitching beats good hitting. The Rangers do not want to see our best pitcher, Fister, in a game 7.

 

[hail2thevictors]

I didn't have a chance to post yesterday but I would have agreed with you completely, and still do...even down 3 games to 1.


I thought Verlander would have been a little better than he was today, although minus the homerun to Cruz, he pitched very well. I still feel like it's almost automatic every time he's on the mound, even though he has proved to be human this postseason.

Scherzer is inconsistent, but he has been very tough during the postseason. The bats will need to be there tomorrow, but they roughed up Holland early in game 2, so I don't see why they can't do that again in game 6.

Fister is the best pitcher on our staff right now, so if it gets to game 7, I think the momentum all goes to the Tigers, even though it will be an away game.

So bottom line, if the Tigers' pitchers are on top of their game, I like their chances. If not, the Rangers are gonna be really tough to come back against.

This has been a great series to watch and I hope it goes to a game 7 regardless of who wins. There's nothing better than playoff baseball!!

Completely agree. Verlander has been average in these playoffs-there isn't anyway to get around that. He hasn't been the Cy Young guy we saw most of the year.

And Scherzer is very inconsistent like you said. I just hope he has found a groove, because his pitching in the postseason has been lights out.

And Fister is our best starter, I have been saying that since that Yankees game 5. He is ridiculous with the movement on his pitches. I would rather face him than Verlander, because even though Verlander can get up to 100, it doesn't move that much. Heck, Beltre just about hit that one out yesterday.

 

[James52411]

You're crazy.

 

[hail2thevictors]

You're crazy.

Cool man, cool. I put my opinion out there. What did you do? Sit in your chair and wait until it looks like the Rangers will win? Congrats man, that's awesome.

In unrelated news, there should be 3 outs right now. The last thing this team needs is 4 outs. 7-2 is manageable IMO, 9-2, well not so much.

Still, I haven't followed every pitch of this year to throw the towel in right now.

 

[miguelcabrera]

08 alcs game 5

not over just yet

 

[James52411]

You're crazy.

Cool man, cool. I put my opinion out there. What did you do? Sit in your chair and wait until it looks like the Rangers will win? Congrats man, that's awesome.

In unrelated news, there should be 3 outs right now. The last thing this team needs is 4 outs. 7-2 is manageable IMO, 9-2, well not so much.

Still, I haven't followed every pitch of this year to throw the towel in right now.

You had to know this would happen. :lol:

 

[ThoseBackPages]

ZING!

 

[hail2thevictors]

You're crazy.

Cool man, cool. I put my opinion out there. What did you do? Sit in your chair and wait until it looks like the Rangers will win? Congrats man, that's awesome.

In unrelated news, there should be 3 outs right now. The last thing this team needs is 4 outs. 7-2 is manageable IMO, 9-2, well not so much.

Still, I haven't followed every pitch of this year to throw the towel in right now.

You had to know this would happen. :lol:

Seriously dude, read my posts. I have said numerous times IN THIS THREAD that Scherzer has been inconsistent all year. But, he has had 2 great starts this postseason. It was up to him-if he had a good start, I love our chances. But, a potential dud of a start was completely possible. I said as much. It's simple-Max didn't do what he needed to.

I expected a win tonight, especially after giving Max a 2-0 lead. He just couldn't command the zone, gave up 9 hits/bb in under 3 innings. That is a disaster.

 

[hail2thevictors]

ZING!

I think the zing was applied in the ALDS bro.

 

[JoshHamilton]

08 alcs game 5

not over just yet

Do you know the difference between impossible and improbable?

 

[James52411]

You're crazy.

Cool man, cool. I put my opinion out there. What did you do? Sit in your chair and wait until it looks like the Rangers will win? Congrats man, that's awesome.

In unrelated news, there should be 3 outs right now. The last thing this team needs is 4 outs. 7-2 is manageable IMO, 9-2, well not so much.

Still, I haven't followed every pitch of this year to throw the towel in right now.

You had to know this would happen. :lol:

Seriously dude, read my posts. I have said numerous times IN THIS THREAD that Scherzer has been inconsistent all year. But, he has had 2 great starts this postseason. It was up to him-if he had a good start, I love our chances. But, a potential dud of a start was completely possible. I said as much. It's simple-Max didn't do what he needed to.

I expected a win tonight, especially after giving Max a 2-0 lead. He just couldn't command the zone, gave up 9 hits/bb in under 3 innings. That is a disaster.

I think we can agree that this is a disaster.