Cameron Maybin vs. Mike Stanton

[Autismic]

JP..Never open a polling firm..It would be a short endeavour :lol: :lol:

I was one of the few who voted against heyward but I gotta go with Maybin

 

[LaPorta Fan]

Maybin, not even close. Morrison and probably Dominguez are better prospects than Stanton.

Stantons younger and he hit 39 Hrs. Let me repeat that. 39 Homers. Pretty good.

 

[andyduke86]

Maybin, not even close. Morrison and probably Dominguez are better prospects than Stanton.

Stantons younger and he hit 39 Hrs. Let me repeat that. 39 Homers. Pretty good.

Sure, but how good a season a prospect had really has limited bearing on how good of a prospect he is. It's about what they will do, not what they did. Something most don't understand. Stanton played his home games in one of the best hitting parks in the minors and struck out in 28.3% of his at bats, an outrageous amount. He's got an incredibly long swing which will cause him big time problems as he advances where pitchers can take advantage of the holes in his swing. If he's having such poor contact against SAL pitchers, it's only going to get worse as he advances against better pitchers. Sure, he's a good prospect but there are major red flags regarding his skill set from a statistical and scouting standpoint. Maybin's tools are better across the board except for power, where Stanton has a slight advantage currently. Maybin has as much raw power as just about anyone, he just hasn't developed it in games yet.

 

[Brett Keith]

Maybin, not even close. Morrison and probably Dominguez are better prospects than Stanton.

Stantons younger and he hit 39 Hrs. Let me repeat that. 39 Homers. Pretty good.

Sure, but how good a season a prospect had really has limited bearing on how good of a prospect he is. It's about what they will do, not what they did. Something most don't understand. Stanton played his home games in one of the best hitting parks in the minors and struck out in 28.3% of his at bats, an outrageous amount. He's got an incredibly long swing which will cause him big time problems as he advances where pitchers can take advantage of the holes in his swing. If he's having such poor contact against SAL pitchers, it's only going to get worse as he advances against better pitchers. Sure, he's a good prospect but there are major red flags regarding his skill set from a statistical and scouting standpoint. Maybin's tools are better across the board except for power, where Stanton has a slight advantage currently. Maybin has as much raw power as just about anyone, he just hasn't developed it in games yet.

He did play in a comfy home park, but actually posted a better SLG% away from home, had an identical OPS, and his AVG was only .011 lower. If you were talking about a prospect who has a few seasons as a pro under his belt, or someone who was 22 or so coming out of college, then your statement "If he's having such poor contact against SAL pitchers, It's only going to get worse as he advances against better pitchers" might sound reasonable. Stanton was only 18 though, the entire year, and had only 56 AB's as a pro prior to this season. Not only that, but he was a football star too, so he didn't get the reps most top baseball prospects coming out of a warm weather states do. Even with the K's he maintained a high AVG, and kept the ball off the ground. Everything, including his well above average athleticism and lauded work ethic, points to him improving.

 

[BGSRCGUY]

Maybin, not even close. Morrison and probably Dominguez are better prospects than Stanton.

Stantons younger and he hit 39 Hrs. Let me repeat that. 39 Homers. Pretty good.

Sure, but how good a season a prospect had really has limited bearing on how good of a prospect he is. It's about what they will do, not what they did. Something most don't understand. Stanton played his home games in one of the best hitting parks in the minors and struck out in 28.3% of his at bats, an outrageous amount. He's got an incredibly long swing which will cause him big time problems as he advances where pitchers can take advantage of the holes in his swing. If he's having such poor contact against SAL pitchers, it's only going to get worse as he advances against better pitchers. Sure, he's a good prospect but there are major red flags regarding his skill set from a statistical and scouting standpoint. Maybin's tools are better across the board except for power, where Stanton has a slight advantage currently. Maybin has as much raw power as just about anyone, he just hasn't developed it in games yet.

Is my Math off or is yours? (I wouldn't be suprised I am surely not a math major in college)
Maybin's 2008 Season in the Minors: 390 Ab's 124 K's 31.79% 124/390
Stanton 2008 Season In Minors: 468 Ab's 153 K's 32.69% 153/468

In A Ball at 19 Maybin struck out 116/385 for a 30.12%


Maybin also has a total of 36 HR's in a career of 1098 AB's
Stanton has 40 Hr's in 524 AB's and 39 in one season out doing maybin's career total.

So I don't understand the concept about saying that Stanton strikes out way more than Maybin, simply untrue, that being said I think Maybin has more skill sets and voted for him, but I think Stanton is a very strong prospect as well.

 

[andyduke86]

http://firstinning.com/players/Cameron-Maybin-a/
http://firstinning.com/players/Michael-Stanton-a/

Got to factor in walks and hbp when calculating K%. Both guys certainly have their flaws (strikeouts), but both are definately good prospects that are still pretty raw. They'll both get better but contact skills generally don't improve like power can. I think Maybin's on the edge of a big breakthrough next year though.

 

[BGSRCGUY]

http://firstinning.com/players/Cameron-Maybin-a/
http://firstinning.com/players/Michael-Stanton-a/

Got to factor in walks and hbp when calculating K%. Both guys certainly have their flaws (strikeouts), but both are definately good prospects that are still pretty raw. They'll both get better but contact skills generally don't improve like power can. I think Maybin's on the edge of a big breakthrough next year though.

I forgot BB do not count as Ab's I knew my percentages were to high, I guess that is why I am a Political Science Major.

I hope Maybin breaks out, I have a few things that could be moved

 

[southeastjerome]

All i know is that my guy Logan Morrison will be in the top 3

 

[chrome_ball]

I predict Maybin by a chicken wing.

 

[leatherman]

Maybin is going to have a tough spots in his rookie season, and he is going to have some brilliant spots as well. I hope he has a great season, but I think he will probably strike out a ton. I see 120 Ks minimum (possibly over 150), but I wouldn't be surprised to see 30 steals and a few highlight catches. Home runs, I expect 15-18 next year, but I think he could be hitting 30 in 2-3 years.

I don't think we see Stanton in Miami before September, and by then we will all know a lot more about Cameron Maybin.

Just wondering...where would Chris Volstad fit on this list were he still eligible?


David

 

[ThoseBackPages]

Maybin is going to have a tough spots in his rookie season, and he is going to have some brilliant spots as well. I hope he has a great season, but I think he will probably strike out a ton. I see 120 Ks minimum (possibly over 150), but I wouldn't be surprised to see 30 steals and a few highlight catches. Home runs, I expect 15-18 next year, but I think he could be hitting 30 in 2-3 years.

I don't think we see Stanton in Miami before September, and by then we will all know a lot more about Cameron Maybin.

Just wondering...where would Chris Volstad fit on this list were he still eligible?


David

are the pants on?