Carlos Santana Named Eastern League MVP

[Jaypers]

http://www.oursportscentral.com/service ... id=3900277

Well deserved, although I probably would have voted for Taylor.

 

[pujolsjunkie]

Re: Carlos Santana Voted Eastern League MVP

Well deserved.

 

[Bosox3]

CT's Brett Pill shouldve won this award over Santana but the politics of being a prospect took over.
The voters gave all the awards to Akron this season.
Very Cheap.

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=3900277

Well deserved, although I probably would have voted for Taylor.

I agree (M.Taylor was there for the majority of the season & topped Santana in all categories while Taylor was there!)...I guess since M.Taylor was nominated Eastern League Rookie of the Year, they figured they'd divide the award's!?!? (also, M.Taylor/Drabek were just nominated by the Phillies as the Phillies minor-leaguer's of the year...Drabek the best pitcher & Taylor the best position player). Too bad BA can't see it this way!

 

[DaveH]

lol, politics?

you realize Santana had a fairly similar season to Taylor, only at a much much more valuable position, right?

Catcher, the most valuable position for a hitter.
versus left field... the 2nd to last [1B].

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

lol, politics?

you realize Santana had a fairly similar season to Taylor, only at a much much more valuable position, right?

Catcher, the most valuable position for a hitter.
versus left field... the 2nd to last [1B].

Yes I realize that catcher is a more valuable position...but the award is Most Valuable Player, not Most Valuable Postion (or highest rated/ranked prospect, or which prospect is higher in BA's Top 100)! The measurement for the MVP award is NOT which position makes a prospect more valuable, it's what the prospect accomplished across the board's for thier team & in thier production! Taylor put up better stats overall across the board (he was the best overall producer of the Eastern League for the majority of the season..."FACT").

I do agree though that your openning of "lol, politics? :lol: " was rather hillarious (seriously I just pee'd a little)! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[DaveH]

well, they are talking about value. you get much more value with Santana at catcher than you do with a left-fielder who hits well. so... Santana is most valuable player.

 

[nyyankeesfan.13722]

CT's Brett Pill shouldve won this award over Santana but the politics of being a prospect took over.
The voters gave all the awards to Akron this season.
Very Cheap.

.820 ops vs .930
.473 slg vs .518
all at a more valuable position

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

well, they are talking about value. you get much more value with Santana at catcher than you do with a left-fielder who hits well. so... Santana is most valuable player.

I understand they are talking about value, but the value of a prospect based on thier position is not what the MVP award takes into consideration (at least it shouldn't be....MVP takes into consideration alot of things but it has nothing to do with the value of a prospect's position, that's set aside for Prospect Ranking's & the like...Now the MilbPOY award, that's a different story as they are supposed to take into consideration a "prospect's worth" which position is a huge factor)!

 

[Bigfan5]

So glad the Dodgers traded him for Blake. (insert sarcasm here). I like Blake but we would have been better of giving a lesser prospect and paying some cash in this case. I think this kid's going to be special.

 

[ozzie's translator]

Awesome! Just wish he wasn't going to be playing against my favorite team on the reg.

 

[kentuckyderby]

So glad the Dodgers traded him for Blake. (insert sarcasm here). I like Blake but we would have been better of giving a lesser prospect and paying some cash in this case. I think this kid's going to be special.

Blake was one of the team's MVP during first half

Plus no room for Santana

Not a bad deal for Balke at all

 

[Johan Santana 57]

well, they are talking about value. you get much more value with Santana at catcher than you do with a left-fielder who hits well. so... Santana is most valuable player.

I understand they are talking about value, but the value of a prospect based on thier position is not what the MVP award takes into consideration (at least it shouldn't be....MVP takes into consideration alot of things but it has nothing to do with the value of a prospect's position, that's set aside for Prospect Ranking's & the like...Now the MilbPOY award, that's a different story as they are supposed to take into consideration a "prospect's worth" which position is a huge factor)!

Dave I think you are wrong here.

Aside from the fact that Mauer is having an incredible season, he is much more valuable because if you get that production from a catcher that is amazing.

That is what Santana is doing. There are many great outfielders (as there should be, 3 positions), while catchers are few and far between. Another reason why Wieters is so highly ranked.

 

[DaveH]

no johan, thats what i was saying. you just said it better.

 

[Johan Santana 57]

no johan, thats what i was saying. you just said it better.

haha I wasnt talking to you, HoustonTeams4me's name is also Dave haha

I agree with you

 

[Bigfan5]

So glad the Dodgers traded him for Blake. (insert sarcasm here). I like Blake but we would have been better of giving a lesser prospect and paying some cash in this case. I think this kid's going to be special.

Blake was one of the team's MVP during first half

Plus no room for Santana

Not a bad deal for Balke at all

I have no problems with Blake but if the Dodgers had actually acted like a big market team and taken on some money instead of just sending prospects we could have kept Santana. At a premium position like catcher it's huge to have such depth and especially true given Martin't regression at the plate this year.

 

[go_tribe]

So glad we got this kid last year. Without him, this year would be a total downer, not that our system is bad, but we are replacing Vic with a guy who is almost a clone of him. I plan on attending some Akron playoff games next week, hope to get a ball signed and inscribed mpv by Carlos

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

well, they are talking about value. you get much more value with Santana at catcher than you do with a left-fielder who hits well. so... Santana is most valuable player.

I understand they are talking about value, but the value of a prospect based on thier position is not what the MVP award takes into consideration (at least it shouldn't be....MVP takes into consideration alot of things but it has nothing to do with the value of a prospect's position, that's set aside for Prospect Ranking's & the like...Now the MilbPOY award, that's a different story as they are supposed to take into consideration a "prospect's worth" which position is a huge factor)!

Dave I think you are wrong here.

Aside from the fact that Mauer is having an incredible season, he is much more valuable because if you get that production from a catcher that is amazing.

That is what Santana is doing. There are many great outfielders (as there should be, 3 positions), while catchers are few and far between. Another reason why Wieters is so highly ranked.

I fully understand the "ranking" of prospect's & the deciphering of thier worth by position bud, but as I stated before the MVP award does not delve into a prospect's ranking or worth due to position (if it were then how come so many OF's & 1st Baseman have won the award?). I get that Milb POY award goes to position player's based on production & determined also by position, but this is the Most Valuable Player (which doesn't go in the direction of a player's worth as a "prospect", it goes in the direction of a player's worth judged by thier "production" and thier "contribution's to thier team").

 

[95vr4]

So glad the Dodgers traded him for Blake. (insert sarcasm here). I like Blake but we would have been better of giving a lesser prospect and paying some cash in this case. I think this kid's going to be special.

Blake was one of the team's MVP during first half

Plus no room for Santana

Not a bad deal for Balke at all

I have no problems with Blake but if the Dodgers had actually acted like a big market team and taken on some money instead of just sending prospects we could have kept Santana. At a premium position like catcher it's huge to have such depth and especially true given Martin't regression at the plate this year.

My exact thought..

Now his sterling are sitting at $15, I guess he is no Matt Wieters.

 

[DaveH]

no johan, thats what i was saying. you just said it better.

haha I wasnt talking to you, HoustonTeams4me's name is also Dave haha

I agree with you

oh, haha. got it now