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I know theres a lot of people here who werent even born during this period, but theres also a lot of people here who remember this time and have their own memories.

My trip down memory lane starts from 1985 when I REALLY got into it big and Topps was the only game in town. Finding Fleer and Donruss at retail was basically impossible back then although I do remember finding Leaf at drug store and Fleer Raks at a "Five and Dime".

At the end of 1985, the hottest rookie card was Dwight Gooden with the others being Ozzie Guillen, Vince Coleman and Oddibee McDowell who were trailed only by Shawon Dunston, Cory Snyder and Danny Tartabull.

Like the previous year, 1986 found only Topps at retail stores and boy did they miss the biggest rookie card of the year in Jose CAnseco. Back then, rookie cards did not debut at more than a few bucks (if that) but Jose bucked that and I rememeber it booking for a whopping $8.

The Traded/Update sets of that year were blazing hot due to phenoms Canseco, Wally Joyner, Pete Incaviglia, Bo Jackson, Ruben Sierra, Bobby Bonilla, Todd Worrell, Will Clark, John Kruk and Barry Bonds. The hands down hottest end of the season set though belonged to Donruss "The Rookies" which I believe reached $60 in Beckett later on.


This year also marked the first time a true premium card set was issued in packs and it was called Sportflics. At a buck or so for a couple of cards, it was very pricey for that time but I recall it being very successfull, even if it only lasted for another year or two.


Because the Hobby back then (mostly Beckett invented) consisted of something labeled "XRC", the 1987 sets also were blazing hot because all the rookies from the 1986 late update sets were still considered rookie cards for this year. THe 1987 Sets also contained new rookie cards like Devon White, Kevin Seitzer (Fleer), Greg Maddux, Bary Larkin, Terry Steinbach, etc plus rookie year cards of Mark McGwire.


Eventhough all three major brands were considered hits by collectors, it was Fleer who stole the show with a pretty limited (for then) product coupled with an oustanding design.
It also didnt hurt that when Clark blew up, it was Fleer who had THE CARD to have of The Thrill. THe Clark card zoomed to $40 which was totally unheard of back then. The Fleer set became so hot that it was the 1992 Bowman of its time meaning each and every year another rookie became a star from that set.

THe only mess up (other than not having ROY McGwires card in the base series)on Fleer's part came in their Tin Glossy set which was to compete with Topps Tiffany sets. Because the reg Fleer set was a phenominal hit, dealers assumed (as well as collectors) that the much rarer Glossy set would be even better. What no one except Fleer knew was that someone forgot to turn off the printing machine for the Glossy sets and they died a fast, painful dead.


For the first time ever, kids had no problem finding 1988 Donruss alongside 1988 Topps and now there was a new kid called Score. It was insane for us kids becaue now we had THREE brands to choose from all at the same price point and neither of them were hard to find. Our choices tripled in one year (Fleer was still hard to get).

Topps was terrible and had no rookies to note outside of Sam Horn while Score and Donruss each had top prospects including mega phenom Gregg Jefferies. He was enugh to sell millions and milions of packs of cards. Donruss had a bonus over Score in that it had included a card of Mark Grace but around here in NY, that didnt matter as we were excited about Jeffeies and Randy Milligan who was exclusive in 1988 Score (Mets big time prospect).

The only heat Topps had were the error cards of Al Leiter and Keith Comstock followed by the variation card of Eddie Murray. All of which lasted for a short time. Fleer chugged along and again wasnt easy to find and held its value for a while.

But 1988 can be remember for two very hot update sets, Score and, yes, Topps. As bad as Topps was for the reg issue, it was smoking out of the gates for the update because it indluded exclusive U.S.A. Olympic cards and Mark McGwre was very fresh in peoples minds (his 1985 Oly card that is) and many expected someone from the update set to follow his lead. As it is now, think of this U.S.A. set just like the current UD issues, minus autos. Most of these guys were about (or already had) to get drafted in the first round.

This was the first set I actually invested in in terms of quantity. These sets became very hot and pricey for a while but didnt compare to the value of the Score update from the same year. The Score Update took off because no one ordered it for whatever reason and with the emergence of Grace, JAck McDowell, Craig Biggio and Roberto Alomar, this set zoomed up to $100 shortly after issue. I did manage to buy one set at release though.


1989 could be described as the year that changed the Hobby as two things happened that shook the hobby, "FF" and UD.

For the first time EVER, a brand new, straight from the pack card made front page news on National newspaper pages. We all know the Fleer Billy Ripken story and how that card went from 3 cents to $100 litterally overnight. That card send dealers and collectors digging through their recently sorted Fleer cards in hopes of finding "gold". It also sent me around the neighborhood and anywhere else I could be driven to with the hopes of landing this card (never did). I bought factory set case thinking that perhaps itll be inside but by then the card was already corrected a million times over with another million variations.

Enter Upper Deck. I remember reading an ad mentioning this new card company and their insane $1 pack of cards. I never thought anyone would spend that much money for cards. I mean, I could buy nearly three packs of Topps, Score or Donruss for one UD. Iwas against it.....until I saw them. They were the Rolls Royce of cards and evryone NEEDED to have it, at all costs (and all costs meant well over SRP IF you could find them).

Griffey was NOT the hottest card in any set at release. Nope, it belonged to Jefferies who wasnt even a rokie card. Other hotties were Sandy Alomar, DAvid West, Hensley Bam Bam Meulens, Gary Sheffield, etc. Notice Randy Johnson, Curt Schiling and John Smoltz arent even mentioned.

As hot as the "low number" UD was, the "High Number" series was even hotter lead by the Nolan Ryan "W/FB" cardand rookie cards of Ozie Canseco, Lavell Freeman, Jim Abbott, Dwight Smith and ROY Jerome Walton. Too bad thisseries didnt have some ultra rare error card like the first series Dale Murphy.

I came around like everyone else did once they saw and held UD cards. At that time, they were incredible.

Well that smy trip down memory lane, what was yours?
 

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I remember skipping lunch in elementary and middle school so that I could save the $2-3 my mom gave me so that I could go up to the corner store and by 50 cent packs. Must be why I had 50,000 commons at one point!!!
 

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I remember opening a pack of 1988 Fleer (the candy-strip ones) and getting a Gregg Jeffries rookie - a six dollar card - and showing that to my grandma! .

As a kid, the eighties were a great decade to really get into cards. The hobby was really starting to grow. There were plenty of opportunities to find some nice collections out there. Things weren't too over-priced - well, except the real value of the 1980s cards. Before the internet, I remember I'd ask all my school buddies if they had cards they might want to sell me - that was a good way to find a lot of older stuff.

When I found a hobby shop a few cities away, My biggest holy grail was a 1977 Topps Dale Murphy rookie at the whopper price of $25. I wanted that sucker so bad - and I still haven't ever own one. My late dad did not want me spending that much money on a piece of cardboard. I used to think about that card day and night. Oh, the memories - maybe I should buy one now.

Also a lot of fun was Baseball Card Magazine. That's what got me in the real hobby. Before that, I used to buy complete sets from the Sporting News. Starting in 1982, my dad would always buy me a cello box of Topps Baseball so I could complete my sets - Ripken rookies, I remember having at least 6 of those. By 1985, Donruss were my favorites. That black bordered set is one of my favorites.

Something I always found interesting was that I got into baseball in 1981, the year of the strike. I bought anything and everything: Topps, Fleer, those Topps oversized, Topps stickers, Fleer Stickers, etc... Oh, a good place to buy old cards was across the street from Yankees Stadium. In 1984, I remember buying a 1969 Topps Clemente for $9 and a 1975 Topps Aaron for $5; they had a 1969 Topps Mantle for $20, but that was my entire allowance back then, so I didn't buy that.

Sorry for that rant.
 

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Don't forget about the Dale Murphy revneg craze and the Pat Sheridan missing position card- that's really what pushed the Upper Deck craze.

Plus Fleer/7-11 retail box sets were pretty hot as well, usually containing about 50 cards.
 

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Don't forget about the Dale Murphy revneg craze and the Pat Sheridan missing position card- that's really what pushed the Upper Deck craze.

Plus Fleer/7-11 retail box sets were pretty hot as well, usually containing about 50 cards.

Well the first one of those little retail box sets was the 1982 Topps K-Mart 20th Anniversary set. Those were fun. McCrorys and Fleer did a beautiful little 1985 set of the best players.
 

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After I posted it, I saw that I wrote more of a history of cards than what I experienced as a kid.

Needless to say I bought everything Topps. Wax, Cello, Raks, super Raks, etc. I remember seeing and buying those 100 count mega raks (1987 and 1988) at Waldbaums supermarket.

I bought so much 1987 that I actually knew the patterns for the best cards (ex: before Mattingly came Tim Leary and before him came so and so and before so and so came X, etc) that all I needed to do was look at the players on top/back of raks and cellos to know what cards were probably inside. I freaked a few friends out by telling them I was going to get a Mattingly in every pack I bought without telling them how I did it. I actually got up to over 50 Mattingly 1987 cards and I dont think I bought any loose.

Still thats my favorite set of all time and I have many of the cards still in my albums from back then. Because I had so many of each good rookie or star, I always liked the way 9 pockets looked with nine of the same card so I loaded up the pages with everyone from Mattingly to Kalvoski Daniels.
 

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Oh the 80's... got me into collecting.

A friend of mine got me hooked in 87-88. At the time, the bash borthers were the two main hits. I ended up buying a Canseco 86 TT rookie. He was my favorite player with McGwire at the time. In 88, Marc Grace was the man. Trying to get that 88 fleer RC was a pain.
I really got active in 89. First with Topps and once in awhile with UD. UD was too expensive for my wallet at the time and I didn't want to spend that much. I always wanted that Griffey RC but never got it. (I have it today though).
I remember that the BIG cards at the time were Mattingly 84 Donruss, Henderson, Gooden, Clemens, McGwire... all of them were my "oh man what would I do with a card like that?".
Great times.
Then came the 90s. Leaf and Frank Thomas. Everything changed for me.
 

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Oh the 80's... got me into collecting.

A friend of mine got me hooked in 87-88. At the time, the bash borthers were the two main hits. I ended up buying a Canseco 86 TT rookie. .

The big guy in 1986 was Canseco, especially the Donruss. I was at a show with a friend and we were craving that card but instead of just buying it for $10, we kept buying packs. We just wouldnt spend that much on one card.

So my friend spent all his cash and while walking around, he found a buck and bought one last pack and found the Canseco. He let me have it, not the card but he wouldnt stop laughing at me and taunting me. It was so bad that I broke down and went to buy the card froma dealer.

When I got to him, he told me $10 and he was the cheapest dealer with the card there. So I reached into my pocket and what did I have? Eight bucks and change.

The dealer let me have it but on the way home, my friend, still taunting me, made up some song about how much I paid compared to him.

But in the end I was the winner because my friend still has the card while I sold mine for $100 twenty years ago.
 

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Same Trip for me as well.

One thing i'll add for now....three letters....SCD. i had the weekly subscription, and read it from
cover to cover (it was about an inch thick, printed on "penny saver" paper, for lack of a better term)

man, life really was better back then. Also, collecting all four sports was no problem then either! lol
 

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Great post. 1980-1989 were great years for collecting. It is truly a shame that those born after this time couldn't experience this era of card collecting. It is criminal what the hobby has become with patch cards, sticker autographs, and worst of all ugly chrome crap! Photography is no longer a consideration and many of those buying this overpriced garbage just do it to turn it for a profit. Every collector should be forced to sit down and look at the entire 1984 Donruss set card by card so they can understand what a truly great baseball card looks like.

I miss the eighties. :(
 

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I got into collecting in 1983,when a friend of the family gave me a shoebox of 79-82 topps that were in terrible shape.It made me want more cards and i was 12 at the time,so i mowed grass in the summer,shoveled snow in the winter for money.

Saved up around 70.00 and went to a cardshop and bought rc's of Gwynn,Sandberg,Boggs and several other singles from the late 70's.Also remember cutting school in h.s. and went to the local cardshop to buy boxes of 85-86 Donruss and bust them at home while the Parents were working.Only did it a couple of times.I did have 6 Canseco rc's at 1 time in the late 80's,but i sold 3 for 20.00 each at a fleamarket and the other 3 i traded for other misc commons from the late 70's.

It was fun and exciting back in those days.
 

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I know theres a lot of people here who werent even born during this period, but theres also a lot of people here who remember this time and have their own memories.

My trip down memory lane starts from 1985 when I REALLY got into it big and Topps was the only game in town. Finding Fleer and Donruss at retail was basically impossible back then although I do remember finding Leaf at drug store and Fleer Raks at a "Five and Dime".

At the end of 1985, the hottest rookie card was Dwight Gooden with the others being Ozzie Guillen, Vince Coleman and Oddibee McDowell who were trailed only by Shawon Dunston, Cory Snyder and Danny Tartabull.

Like the previous year, 1986 found only Topps at retail stores and boy did they miss the biggest rookie card of the year in Jose CAnseco. Back then, rookie cards did not debut at more than a few bucks (if that) but Jose bucked that and I rememeber it booking for a whopping $8.

The Traded/Update sets of that year were blazing hot due to phenoms Canseco, Wally Joyner, Pete Incaviglia, Bo Jackson, Ruben Sierra, Bobby Bonilla, Todd Worrell, Will Clark, John Kruk and Barry Bonds. The hands down hottest end of the season set though belonged to Donruss "The Rookies" which I believe reached $60 in Beckett later on.


This year also marked the first time a true premium card set was issued in packs and it was called Sportflics. At a buck or so for a couple of cards, it was very pricey for that time but I recall it being very successfull, even if it only lasted for another year or two.


Because the Hobby back then (mostly Beckett invented) consisted of something labeled "XRC", the 1987 sets also were blazing hot because all the rookies from the 1986 late update sets were still considered rookie cards for this year. THe 1987 Sets also contained new rookie cards like Devon White, Kevin Seitzer (Fleer), Greg Maddux, Bary Larkin, Terry Steinbach, etc plus rookie year cards of Mark McGwire.


Eventhough all three major brands were considered hits by collectors, it was Fleer who stole the show with a pretty limited (for then) product coupled with an oustanding design.
It also didnt hurt that when Clark blew up, it was Fleer who had THE CARD to have of The Thrill. THe Clark card zoomed to $40 which was totally unheard of back then. The Fleer set became so hot that it was the 1992 Bowman of its time meaning each and every year another rookie became a star from that set.

THe only mess up (other than not having ROY McGwires card in the base series)on Fleer's part came in their Tin Glossy set which was to compete with Topps Tiffany sets. Because the reg Fleer set was a phenominal hit, dealers assumed (as well as collectors) that the much rarer Glossy set would be even better. What no one except Fleer knew was that someone forgot to turn off the printing machine for the Glossy sets and they died a fast, painful dead.


For the first time ever, kids had no problem finding 1988 Donruss alongside 1988 Topps and now there was a new kid called Score. It was insane for us kids becaue now we had THREE brands to choose from all at the same price point and neither of them were hard to find. Our choices tripled in one year (Fleer was still hard to get).

Topps was terrible and had no rookies to note outside of Sam Horn while Score and Donruss each had top prospects including mega phenom Gregg Jefferies. He was enugh to sell millions and milions of packs of cards. Donruss had a bonus over Score in that it had included a card of Mark Grace but around here in NY, that didnt matter as we were excited about Jeffeies and Randy Milligan who was exclusive in 1988 Score (Mets big time prospect).

The only heat Topps had were the error cards of Al Leiter and Keith Comstock followed by the variation card of Eddie Murray. All of which lasted for a short time. Fleer chugged along and again wasnt easy to find and held its value for a while.

But 1988 can be remember for two very hot update sets, Score and, yes, Topps. As bad as Topps was for the reg issue, it was smoking out of the gates for the update because it indluded exclusive U.S.A. Olympic cards and Mark McGwre was very fresh in peoples minds (his 1985 Oly card that is) and many expected someone from the update set to follow his lead. As it is now, think of this U.S.A. set just like the current UD issues, minus autos. Most of these guys were about (or already had) to get drafted in the first round.

This was the first set I actually invested in in terms of quantity. These sets became very hot and pricey for a while but didnt compare to the value of the Score update from the same year. The Score Update took off because no one ordered it for whatever reason and with the emergence of Grace, JAck McDowell, Craig Biggio and Roberto Alomar, this set zoomed up to $100 shortly after issue. I did manage to buy one set at release though.


1989 could be described as the year that changed the Hobby as two things happened that shook the hobby, "FF" and UD.

For the first time EVER, a brand new, straight from the pack card made front page news on National newspaper pages. We all know the Fleer Billy Ripken story and how that card went from 3 cents to $100 litterally overnight. That card send dealers and collectors digging through their recently sorted Fleer cards in hopes of finding "gold". It also sent me around the neighborhood and anywhere else I could be driven to with the hopes of landing this card (never did). I bought factory set case thinking that perhaps itll be inside but by then the card was already corrected a million times over with another million variations.

Enter Upper Deck. I remember reading an ad mentioning this new card company and their insane $1 pack of cards. I never thought anyone would spend that much money for cards. I mean, I could buy nearly three packs of Topps, Score or Donruss for one UD. Iwas against it.....until I saw them. They were the Rolls Royce of cards and evryone NEEDED to have it, at all costs (and all costs meant well over SRP IF you could find them).

Griffey was NOT the hottest card in any set at release. Nope, it belonged to Jefferies who wasnt even a rokie card. Other hotties were Sandy Alomar, DAvid West, Hensley Bam Bam Meulens, Gary Sheffield, etc. Notice Randy Johnson, Curt Schiling and John Smoltz arent even mentioned.

As hot as the "low number" UD was, the "High Number" series was even hotter lead by the Nolan Ryan "W/FB" cardand rookie cards of Ozie Canseco, Lavell Freeman, Jim Abbott, Dwight Smith and ROY Jerome Walton. Too bad thisseries didnt have some ultra rare error card like the first series Dale Murphy.

I came around like everyone else did once they saw and held UD cards. At that time, they were incredible.

Well that smy trip down memory lane, what was yours?

Your memory is a bit hazy, so let me fix it for you.

For one, the UD Griffey WAS THE HOTTEST card in the 1989 UD set upon release. It wasn't the Gregg Jeffries card. Not even close. The second hottest card was the Murphy reverse negative and possibly the Sheffield error card with the upside down SS. Jeffries wasn't even in the discussion.


As for the "hottest" cards in 1986 - you forgot THE hottest, and that was Eric Davis. His 1985 Donruss was scorching @ $50 per. The 1984 Donruss Don Mattingly was pushing $100. The 1983 Topps Traded Darryl Strawberry was also pushing $100 and the 1984 Fleer Update Dwight Gooden was close to a C-note, as well.

And the 1987 Fleer set being like 1992 Bowman. Not quite. There weren't any major rookie cards that emerged from that set after 1988, and by that time all the big names were already well known, whereas with 1992 Bowman, guys like Mariano Rivera and Derek Lowe didn't take off until 4-5 years after the product's release, or more.
 

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I graduated High School in 1985. The year before I foolishly became convinced that cards were for kids and stopped collecting. 1984-1986 were the black hole years in my collection. In 1987, two years out of high school, I realized that all the "cool kids" were, indeed, just idiots and I was embarrassed for giving a doohickey what they thought.

I saw some packs of 87 Topps and just decided to get a few. They looked great! It was pretty near the end of the year and I didn't go for the whole set.

But 1988 was another story. I got back into buying packs and packs and packs of not only Topps, but also Donruss, Fleer and Score. From there it was "Good Night, Nurse!" and no looking back! :)
 

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011873 said:
I know theres a lot of people here who werent even born during this period, but theres also a lot of people here who remember this time and have their own memories.

My trip down memory lane starts from 1985 when I REALLY got into it big and Topps was the only game in town. Finding Fleer and Donruss at retail was basically impossible back then although I do remember finding Leaf at drug store and Fleer Raks at a "Five and Dime".

At the end of 1985, the hottest rookie card was Dwight Gooden with the others being Ozzie Guillen, Vince Coleman and Oddibee McDowell who were trailed only by Shawon Dunston, Cory Snyder and Danny Tartabull.

Like the previous year, 1986 found only Topps at retail stores and boy did they miss the biggest rookie card of the year in Jose CAnseco. Back then, rookie cards did not debut at more than a few bucks (if that) but Jose bucked that and I rememeber it booking for a whopping $8.

The Traded/Update sets of that year were blazing hot due to phenoms Canseco, Wally Joyner, Pete Incaviglia, Bo Jackson, Ruben Sierra, Bobby Bonilla, Todd Worrell, Will Clark, John Kruk and Barry Bonds. The hands down hottest end of the season set though belonged to Donruss "The Rookies" which I believe reached $60 in Beckett later on.


This year also marked the first time a true premium card set was issued in packs and it was called Sportflics. At a buck or so for a couple of cards, it was very pricey for that time but I recall it being very successfull, even if it only lasted for another year or two.


Because the Hobby back then (mostly Beckett invented) consisted of something labeled "XRC", the 1987 sets also were blazing hot because all the rookies from the 1986 late update sets were still considered rookie cards for this year. THe 1987 Sets also contained new rookie cards like Devon White, Kevin Seitzer (Fleer), Greg Maddux, Bary Larkin, Terry Steinbach, etc plus rookie year cards of Mark McGwire.


Eventhough all three major brands were considered hits by collectors, it was Fleer who stole the show with a pretty limited (for then) product coupled with an oustanding design.
It also didnt hurt that when Clark blew up, it was Fleer who had THE CARD to have of The Thrill. THe Clark card zoomed to $40 which was totally unheard of back then. The Fleer set became so hot that it was the 1992 Bowman of its time meaning each and every year another rookie became a star from that set.

THe only mess up (other than not having ROY McGwires card in the base series)on Fleer's part came in their Tin Glossy set which was to compete with Topps Tiffany sets. Because the reg Fleer set was a phenominal hit, dealers assumed (as well as collectors) that the much rarer Glossy set would be even better. What no one except Fleer knew was that someone forgot to turn off the printing machine for the Glossy sets and they died a fast, painful dead.


For the first time ever, kids had no problem finding 1988 Donruss alongside 1988 Topps and now there was a new kid called Score. It was insane for us kids becaue now we had THREE brands to choose from all at the same price point and neither of them were hard to find. Our choices tripled in one year (Fleer was still hard to get).

Topps was terrible and had no rookies to note outside of Sam Horn while Score and Donruss each had top prospects including mega phenom Gregg Jefferies. He was enugh to sell millions and milions of packs of cards. Donruss had a bonus over Score in that it had included a card of Mark Grace but around here in NY, that didnt matter as we were excited about Jeffeies and Randy Milligan who was exclusive in 1988 Score (Mets big time prospect).

The only heat Topps had were the error cards of Al Leiter and Keith Comstock followed by the variation card of Eddie Murray. All of which lasted for a short time. Fleer chugged along and again wasnt easy to find and held its value for a while.

But 1988 can be remember for two very hot update sets, Score and, yes, Topps. As bad as Topps was for the reg issue, it was smoking out of the gates for the update because it indluded exclusive U.S.A. Olympic cards and Mark McGwre was very fresh in peoples minds (his 1985 Oly card that is) and many expected someone from the update set to follow his lead. As it is now, think of this U.S.A. set just like the current UD issues, minus autos. Most of these guys were about (or already had) to get drafted in the first round.

This was the first set I actually invested in in terms of quantity. These sets became very hot and pricey for a while but didnt compare to the value of the Score update from the same year. The Score Update took off because no one ordered it for whatever reason and with the emergence of Grace, JAck McDowell, Craig Biggio and Roberto Alomar, this set zoomed up to $100 shortly after issue. I did manage to buy one set at release though.


1989 could be described as the year that changed the Hobby as two things happened that shook the hobby, "FF" and UD.

For the first time EVER, a brand new, straight from the pack card made front page news on National newspaper pages. We all know the Fleer Billy Ripken story and how that card went from 3 cents to $100 litterally overnight. That card send dealers and collectors digging through their recently sorted Fleer cards in hopes of finding "gold". It also sent me around the neighborhood and anywhere else I could be driven to with the hopes of landing this card (never did). I bought factory set case thinking that perhaps itll be inside but by then the card was already corrected a million times over with another million variations.

Enter Upper Deck. I remember reading an ad mentioning this new card company and their insane $1 pack of cards. I never thought anyone would spend that much money for cards. I mean, I could buy nearly three packs of Topps, Score or Donruss for one UD. Iwas against it.....until I saw them. They were the Rolls Royce of cards and evryone NEEDED to have it, at all costs (and all costs meant well over SRP IF you could find them).

Griffey was NOT the hottest card in any set at release. Nope, it belonged to Jefferies who wasnt even a rokie card. Other hotties were Sandy Alomar, DAvid West, Hensley Bam Bam Meulens, Gary Sheffield, etc. Notice Randy Johnson, Curt Schiling and John Smoltz arent even mentioned.

As hot as the "low number" UD was, the "High Number" series was even hotter lead by the Nolan Ryan "W/FB" cardand rookie cards of Ozie Canseco, Lavell Freeman, Jim Abbott, Dwight Smith and ROY Jerome Walton. Too bad thisseries didnt have some ultra rare error card like the first series Dale Murphy.

I came around like everyone else did once they saw and held UD cards. At that time, they were incredible.

Well that smy trip down memory lane, what was yours?

Your memory is a bit hazy, so let me fix it for you.

For one, the UD Griffey WAS THE HOTTEST card in the 1989 UD set upon release. It wasn't the Gregg Jeffries card. Not even close. The second hottest card was the Murphy reverse negative and possibly the Sheffield error card with the upside down SS. Jeffries wasn't even in the discussion.


As for the "hottest" cards in 1986 - you forgot THE hottest, and that was Eric Davis. His 1985 Donruss was scorching @ $50 per. The 1984 Donruss Don Mattingly was pushing $100. The 1983 Topps Traded Darryl Strawberry was also pushing $100 and the 1984 Fleer Update Dwight Gooden was close to a C-note, as well
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And the 1987 Fleer set being like 1992 Bowman. Not quite. There weren't any major rookie cards that emerged from that set after 1988, and by that time all the big names were already well known, whereas with 1992 Bowman, guys like Mariano Rivera and Derek Lowe didn't take off until 4-5 years after the product's release, or more.

This is pretty much spot on as i remember it as well. Davis, Strawberry, Gooden, and Mattingly until 1987 and then everyone wanted McGwire. Gooden and Mattingly were absolutely on fire from 85-87.
 

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Ahh the memories. Word on the Thrill '87 Fleer. I remember paying $25 for one at a flea market in '89 and all my friends thought I was crazy. I just had to have it. Such a great looking card and I always think of that slow motion shot of his swing that always finished the ending credits of This Week in Baseball. I still have a few '87 Fleer Clarks, and if I see one at a shop for $1 I just have to buy it.
 

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My favorite memories were getting the Baseball Hobby News and going through that cover to cover. I also loved SCD back in its prime. I have made connections & great friends through those 2 publications that I still keep in contact with today. For a player collector, they were crucial to have and I couldnt wait till they came out. There used to be a lot of shows then too. Ft. Washington, NJ Expo Center, White Plains, Cherry Hill Mall, These were great shows back then. I loved getting up Saturday morning for the 2 hr trip to White Plains, or Ft. Washington. Damn I miss those days. Now most of the shows suck. These days, the hobby just isn't the same.
 

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henderson939 said:
. Damn I miss those days. Now most of the shows suck. These days, the hobby just isn't the same.

Quite true, my friend. The thrill is somewhat gone - and thanks to Ebay, we now know that almost nothing is hard to find or that we're surrounded by a bunch of hoarders. Even today's card companies seem to be in a rut, like they're on automatic producing the same garbage. What this hobby needs is some imagination again. I swear I think the last time I was really excited about a new product was 1991 Topps Stadium Club. That was like going from a black and white set to an HD television. The Game-used stuff never really impressed me; autos are nice, but the only way to get the great all-stars is buying in bulk (practically). I'd love to see a product that really got you excited for the game; a set that really deserved one's attention. Those were the days.
 

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George K said:
henderson939 said:
. Damn I miss those days. Now most of the shows suck. These days, the hobby just isn't the same.

Quite true, my friend. The thrill is somewhat gone - and thanks to Ebay, we now know that almost nothing is hard to find or that we're surrounded by a bunch of hoarders. Even today's card companies seem to be in a rut, like they're on automatic producing the same garbage. What this hobby needs is some imagination again. I swear I think the last time I was really excited about a new product was 1991 Topps Stadium Club. That was like going from a black and white set to an HD television. The Game-used stuff never really impressed me; autos are nice, but the only way to get the great all-stars is buying in bulk (practically). I'd love to see a product that really got you excited for the game; a set that really deserved one's attention. Those were the days.

Completely agree with you on the Stadium Club. SC was exciting when it came out and we haven't had its equivalent, with the possible exception of Topps Gold Label, since. I'm with you on the game used stuff; too much of it is fake now. Most of the time they stick a 3/4" swatch on an ugly card anyhow. Ah the good old days...
 

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George K said:
henderson939 said:
. Damn I miss those days. Now most of the shows suck. These days, the hobby just isn't the same.

Quite true, my friend. The thrill is somewhat gone - and thanks to Ebay, we now know that almost nothing is hard to find or that we're surrounded by a bunch of hoarders. Even today's card companies seem to be in a rut, like they're on automatic producing the same garbage. What this hobby needs is some imagination again. I swear I think the last time I was really excited about a new product was 1991 Topps Stadium Club. That was like going from a black and white set to an HD television. The Game-used stuff never really impressed me; autos are nice, but the only way to get the great all-stars is buying in bulk (practically). I'd love to see a product that really got you excited for the game; a set that really deserved one's attention. Those were the days.

There was nothing like spending a mean 35 cents on a "Wax pack" of Topps baseball cards and getting a piece of powdery gum to boot!

I remember back in the mid-1980s (maybe 1984), when the candy store down the corner put out some 1978 Topps wax packs for $1 each. I couldn't get enough! The guy who owned the store was a collector and back in 1986 was paying $3 for every 1986 Donruss Jose Canseco he could get his hands on. Ironically, that's about all those cards are worth today on a good day.

What a thrill it was to search through rack packs and find that Gooden rookie peeking back at you. Back in those days, it was tough to find anything other than Topps. So when my classmate had a page full of 1985 Donruss Dan Pasquas, I was in sheer awe. So I flashed my 9-pocket page of Topps Dwight Gooden rookies and that settled that!

Sadly enough, with the exception of a few cards, most of the big sellers from the 1980s are relatively worthless today. Guys like Eric Davis, Bret Saberhagen, Gooden, Darryl Strawberry, Bobby Bonilla, etc. It seems as if the 80s are the lost years of baseball cards.

I have two cases of 1987 Topps vending in my storeroom and it would probably cost more to ship them than they're worth. How sad.
 

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I started collecting in the late 80's as well. Here's a question though.

Would this hobby even still be around, or be what it is without all the innovations from 1997 till now?

Would there be message boards, 1,000,000s of eBay listings, BIG card shows, etc. if all we had to
choose from each year were a few sets of base cards and inserts? No chrome, no supers, no patches,
very few/VERY rare autos. I can honestly tell you, I never would have come back to collecting.
 

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