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Prizes for 2 or more random posters..

Todays question:

How would you feel if we combine Rookie Retro and Legend of the Diamond into a single product fetauring Rookie cards, Vintage cards, High end Game used and autographed inserts as well..
All Graded... All in one product?

We would start with a BASEBALL release, then move to other sports.
Factory cost would be $165 with a graded card and 1/1 sketch per box. This means boxes would be in market at $189-219 probably.
Worst slab would be $45-50, best $10,000.

Thoughts on this?

BG
 

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personally not fond of 1/1 sketches(or any sketches). An on card autograph or cut would a better addition at the price range.
 

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I would be interested since it would be only baseball. That kept me away from RR last time because I didn't really want a Hockey or Basketball card.

On another note, what would the 1/1 sketches be like? Who would be commissioned to do this work?

What would be cool is if it would be possible to get large 8x10 or larger original sketches of some of the cards. They would be random redemptions of course. I would think some collectors would love to get something like that for their collection in addition to the graded cards. Perhaps even getting the sketch autographed by the player on the card too...

Just my thoughts...
 

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sketches because of the reason you added metal? the whole mystery aspect?
find something better than sketches imo

otherwise i'd probably be in - what are you thinking chase hits will be?

zach
 

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I would also prefer not to include the 1/1 sketches but rather a cut auto, kind of like what razor did with the BGS authentic cut autos. Also, at 189-219, if you hit the worst two slabs in the same box (assuming those values are SV and not BV) you could recoup almost half of what you paid. I personally would love to be able to get a graded rookie and cut auto in the same box!
 

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Sounds interesting. I'd like to see some of this product busted.

And the people that say offer a cut auto, I'm assuming that would jack the price up quite a bit compared to a sketch card. You can pay a sketch artist $2-5 a card. You aren't going to get a cut auto card for $2-5.
 

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Nix the sketches. Try lowering the price 25-40 if you can. Other than that I like the idea with just baseball.
 

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I think separating into a particular sport is a great idea. Maybe each case could contain one baseball, one basketball etc. box so that they could be sold aftermarket individually. The issue with RRR was that you could end up with a low end slab in a sport you had no interest in. At least if you knew it was going to be baseball one should be happier with a low end card than a low end card in a sport you know nothing/don't care about.

I also don't think sketches are good guaranteed hits. I think using a prismatic type insert instead will be more appealing and provide a better monetary return and happiness for most people
 

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No reason to grade high end GU and autographed inserts. Their value is in the memorabilia and the signature, not in the numerical grade.

If anything, keep doing the prospect auto inserts (Carpenter, Scheppers, etc)...and use a high end raw gu or auto as an extra case hit. Those would be much more appreciated than a random Metal Holographic...and provide much more value.
 

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It would be a great idea, but I don't see any real reason to grade memorabilia cards.
Maybe you could get some of the sketches autographed, otherwise I don't see any real purpose for them.
I think this would work great with baseball and football only, but in separate releases.
 

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Leaf said:
Prizes for 2 or more random posters..

Todays question:

How would you feel if we combine Rookie Retro and Legend of the Diamond into a single product fetauring Rookie cards, Vintage cards, High end Game used and autographed inserts as well..
All Graded... All in one product?

We would start with a BASEBALL release, then move to other sports.
Factory cost would be $165 with a graded card and 1/1 sketch per box. This means boxes would be in market at $189-219 probably.
Worst slab would be $45-50, best $10,000.

Thoughts on this?

BG

i bought 3 cases of RRR but didn't really like the idea of hockey in there. limiting it to baseball appeals more to me then an "all sport" product. a limited football release sounds pretty enticing as well.

ever thought about doing a racing product. someone needs to give press pass a run in the nascar ranks IMO.
 
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BG,

Please do not listen to the above if you intend to include a memorabilia card. It must be graded.

It seems like not more than a few hours go by when someone doesn't spot a "FAKE!" relic for sale on eBay.

If God forbid one of these fake, aftermarket relics slipped into one of your products, and you advertised it as real and authentic, you would be flamed until the end of days and I do not want to see that happen.

There are too many people laying in wait to scream "gotcha!" on this one. :(
 

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I'm not interested in any product that contains graded cards. I would rather you put the cost of grading cards into the value contained inside the box. Those who want their cards graded can do so. The rest of us would rather have an extra hit.

Tom
 

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Since no other company is getting on board the 90's style insert train, each pack should include some crazy die cut dufex-y type of card.
 

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Leaf said:
Prizes for 2 or more random posters..

Todays question:

How would you feel if we combine Rookie Retro and Legend of the Diamond into a single product fetauring Rookie cards, Vintage cards, High end Game used and autographed inserts as well..
All Graded... All in one product?

We would start with a BASEBALL release, then move to other sports.
Factory cost would be $165 with a graded card and 1/1 sketch per box. This means boxes would be in market at $189-219 probably.
Worst slab would be $45-50, best $10,000.

Thoughts on this?

BG

I think this would be fine - but anyway to improve on price point? If you produce the volume as you had prior to, and combine the collectors that are case busters and you put one case "hit," then that might be tough for me to swallow. You're looking at two cards in one pack for $200 - ok, get that - but looking at risk vs reward, I'm not sure if I'd bite.

Combining both I think is great - would make it a lot of fun and mix it up a bit, but not so hot about the price point.
 

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As long as the sketches look good I'd be interested. Most sketches look awful, I'd say 95% is just ugly. Topps Chicle art is so awful it's actually funny. Dick Perez or Donruss Diamond King's type quality would be very cool. If it can't be done well it shouldn't be done.
 

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Sketches would be a great idea if done well by an actual professional artist, AND (here's the kicker) they were autographed by the athlete who is pictured! Super-rare could be those that feature two or more athletes and are autographed by all who are pictured. There's your great idea of the night. Make it happen, and people will buy it!
 

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just my take a all baseball product, vintage and modern, one graded card and one tru rookie card. for $90 a pack.
no sketches. anything over 100 is just to much for most in this economy.
 

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Would your chase card Be a prospect or Vintage? Would you have one of each? I mean there are some collectors that can't stand Prospect stuff and only collect vintage They may be more inclined to Buy your Product if Say you Guaranteed a Nice Vintage hit in a case. Same Goes for Prospect collectors Give them a Reason to Chase your Big Card! I think Having a major Hit for both Vintage and Prospect collectors is a necessity to create a stir on both sides of the market.
 

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