DEVELOPING ON PREVIOUS IDEAS... please give feedback..

[brouthercard]

NO sketch cards in sports - they are just plain bad.

I like the high end hit idea, though.

 

[Rickzcards]

Having a 1/1 sketch in every box waters down the value of them. If you insist on inserting them then having them fall at 1 per case or less would make it desireable.

 

[ronfromfresno]

Maybe one rookie and one vintage per pack with random 1/1 sketches. I would personally love to some 8 x 10 sketches of famous events or players. Or even a redemption process like with 2005 Donruss Diamond Kings where you could get the actual art used to create the cards, nice 8 x10 framed art of your favorite players or events like Mays over the shoulder catch, Dimaggio swinging, Ruth calling his shot, Fisk begging the ball to stay fair and so on.

 

[tramers]

my sig is for sale :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[mrangrydonut]

NO sketch cards in sports - they are just plain bad.

I like the high end hit idea, though.

Is the sketch in my signature bad?

If you could get this level of quality for the sketches in your product, I think they would be a hit.

 

[Leaf]

I would be interested since it would be only baseball. That kept me away from RR last time because I didn't really want a Hockey or Basketball card.

On another note, what would the 1/1 sketches be like? Who would be commissioned to do this work?

What would be cool is if it would be possible to get large 8x10 or larger original sketches of some of the cards. They would be random redemptions of course. I would think some collectors would love to get something like that for their collection in addition to the graded cards. Perhaps even getting the sketch autographed by the player on the card too...

Just my thoughts...

Sketches would be 5-6 artists sketching all the Baseball Hall of Famers...

The key ios to try to keep the box price down, while adding something that could deliver value that exceeds its cost to manufacture...

BG

 

[Leaf]

I would also prefer not to include the 1/1 sketches but rather a cut auto, kind of like what razor did with the BGS authentic cut autos. Also, at 189-219, if you hit the worst two slabs in the same box (assuming those values are SV and not BV) you could recoup almost half of what you paid. I personally would love to be able to get a graded rookie and cut auto in the same box!

What if we added a cut signature per box (slabbed), but the cuts were a wide selection of baseball players from 1900-present...There would be a lot of affordable older common names, but cut autos would cover a gamut of over 2000 names from the past in baseball (mainly minor stars with some hall of famers mixed in)... Factory cost would have to move up to $175.


Thoughts?

BG

 

[Leaf]

Nix the sketches. Try lowering the price 25-40 if you can. Other than that I like the idea with just baseball.

Lowering the price to $125, would lower the bad hits to $25-30 cards.
And remove 10-15% of the big hits.. still like lower priced?
BG

 

[Leaf]

High end GU sound cool, but of course be very careful with patch cards.

This is why were were going to slab all (also for searchability)....
would you want a number grade or just an authentic slab?
BG

 

[dano7]

Not crazy about the sketches either. However, if the sketch was of a current or former player and signed, I'd be in.
DANNY

 

[morgoth]

Alot of fake patches are graded so they look authentic. PSA and I think BGS did for quite awhile, only looked at the card for grading not for patch faking.

 

[notoriousrmb]

I like sketch cards, but I agree keep them limited. Also I'm tired of $200 boxes, that's just too much money for me to drop on a single pack/box. I'll gamble something like that at $100 but for twice that I like opening a few more packs and having a little more fun with it. Just my opinion, I know there are others who enjoy the big dollar all or nothing packs. Just seems easier to stomach a lesser box with a lower buy in cost. If you can get it down to the $100-125 price point I'd also more than likely try to buy two boxes at once as I do with most other purchases. If one box is a dud I always like having that second shot from the same case!

 

[69MetsFan]

I'm not a fan of sketch cards. As far as placing them in high dollar packs and advertising as 1/1, for approx. $200, I'd rather take a shot at a cut or HoF game used that's been authenticated.

 

[ChasHawk]

Sorry BG,

I liked the idea of doing LotD again, but I don't like the idea to combine the two.

Also, let me get this straight. You're talking 1 slab and 1 sketch for $200? That seems way out of line.
Why not put in 1 legend and 1 rookie per box, drop the sketches, and drop the HUGE hits to make this affordable?

 

[Leaf]

Sorry BG,

I liked the idea of doing LotD again, but I don't like the idea to combine the two.

Also, let me get this straight. You're talking 1 slab and 1 sketch for $200? That seems way out of line.
Why not put in 1 legend and 1 rookie per box, drop the sketches, and drop the HUGE hits to make this affordable?

LOTD and RRR were $200 a box factory cost...

I was talking aboiut a graded card plus a cut signature card at $200 factory cost...

$165 fact cost was graded card plus sketch...

 

[goldenegg1]

I love sketch cards, but not in a product like this.
I would do an entire product based on sketch cards only. The Breygent company has had products that have a sketch card per pack (around$20-$30) and they have been a lot of fun to collect. The sketches themselves are 4x6s. They've released products based on Woodstock, old horror movie posters among numerous other themes. If you could do just a sports sketch card line, I would be all over this!

 

[ChasHawk]

Sorry BG,

I liked the idea of doing LotD again, but I don't like the idea to combine the two.

Also, let me get this straight. You're talking 1 slab and 1 sketch for $200? That seems way out of line.
Why not put in 1 legend and 1 rookie per box, drop the sketches, and drop the HUGE hits to make this affordable?

LOTD and RRR were $200 a box factory cost...

I was talking aboiut a graded card plus a cut signature card at $200 factory cost...

$165 fact cost was graded card plus sketch...

Understood.

What I'm saying is, what is feasable hit wise (hi and low) at $100/box factory??

 

[Leaf]

Sorry BG,

I liked the idea of doing LotD again, but I don't like the idea to combine the two.

Also, let me get this straight. You're talking 1 slab and 1 sketch for $200? That seems way out of line.
Why not put in 1 legend and 1 rookie per box, drop the sketches, and drop the HUGE hits to make this affordable?

LOTD and RRR were $200 a box factory cost...

I was talking aboiut a graded card plus a cut signature card at $200 factory cost...

$165 fact cost was graded card plus sketch...

Understood.

What I'm saying is, what is feasable hit wise (hi and low) at $100/box factory??

At $100 factory, there would be only one graded card per box plus a Leaf base card (TBD).
I am creating a new thread with a poll... I think I have narrowed it down to 2 viable options... BG

 

[steve-a-reno]

I don't know that I'd like the idea of combining the two either. $200 per is steep also. I personally would never considering busting a product that expensive, though I'd love to have the means to do so. I'm also not a fan of the sketch cards.

 

[reljac]

Sketches don't get me excited, but I love the idea of Rookie Retro and Legends of the Diamond in one product. I'd rather see a different fancy insert than sketches, but even as is the idea sounds like a great one!!