Did Mangini Bench Quinn to Save Money? Interesting Read

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No matter what his reason, I think Mangini ruined Brady Quinn's future. Not just because of lost money, but the blow to Quinn's confidence and lack of experience is a huge obstacle.

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Though we've been very critical of Browns coach Eric Mangini, we were inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt on the question of whether he parked quarterback Brady Quinn on the bench in order to ensure that Quinn doesn't unlock $10.9 million in 2010 and 2011 salary escalators by taking 70 percent of the snaps on offense this season.

We were inclined to give Mangini the benefit of the doubt, even though he clung to Derek Anderson and his single-digit completion performances until it became mathematically impossible for Quinn to hit the trigger.

But in a lengthy interview with Clark Judge of CBSSports.com, Mangini offered up a suggestion so outlandish that we believe Mangini is trying too hard to cover up the reality that Mangini kept Quinn on the bench because it will be much easier to trade Quinn after the season if he hasn't triggered those future salary obligations.

Judge asked Mangini about the possibility that Quinn was benched due to the escalator clause. And here's what Mangini said.

"No, absolutely not. With all the different contracts. . . . I don't know what the incentives are. But that wouldn't make my decision [even if I did]."

There's no good way out of this one for Mangini. He's lying, or he's incompetent.

Either way, it's a dangerous strategy for a guy working for an owner who's looking for any way to fire people who need to go without having to pay the balance of his contract.

 

[kdailey4315]

I think money definitely has something to do with it. The Browns are pitiful right now and they know they're going to trade one of their QB's. I think they could care less which one goes but might as well bench Quinn and trade him and save a shatload of money.

 

[kdailey4315]

... double post.

 

[deceptikon1978]

I said yesterday Mangini is a giant ****** when he started pulling the I'm not telling anybody who I am starting BS again. I can't freaking stand that ass clown and he doesn't belong anywhere near any NFL organization.

As a fan of Quinn I really hope he gets the hell out of Cleveland.

 

[dfr52]

I said yesterday Mangini is a giant ****** when he started pulling the I'm not telling anybody who I am starting BS again. I can't freaking stand that ass clown and he doesn't belong anywhere near any NFL organization.

As a fan of Quinn I really hope he gets the hell out of Cleveland.

I'd love to see Mangini gone and a chance to see how Quinn can play. The guy has not been given any short of a real shot to show what he can do. Usually 1st rd. QB's are given time and an opportunity to grow but the Browns have done nothing w/ him. IMO he's still a large unknown.

 

[ElToroloco]

The Brown's suck and both Quinn and Alexander aren't helping. Brady Quinn didn't look very good on the field at all. So, it wouldn't matter whether benching him to keep him under 70% or to see if Alexander can jump start the offense.

 

[ctmike]

I think Quinn's performance made it very easy to bench him regardless. If neither he nor Anderson are the quarterback's of the future, it's the only smart move the organization can make to bench him. Have to save that money for someone else in the future. Tim Tebow anyone?

 

[Rickzcards]

There's no good way out of this one for Mangini. He's lying, or he's incompetent.

That one sentence sums it all up. But I suspect Mangini isn't wholly to blame, upper management or the owner probably prompted him into doing so.

 

[Card Magnet]

Mangini just looks worse and worse with each passing week. Not just because of his on field play, but the stories on the side as well. It may not all be him, but it reflects on him just because of his position.

1. He hid Favre's injuries last year
2. He thinks it's clever to hide from teams if they'll be starting Crap or Crappier at QB
3. He may have ruined taken money from Quinn just to save money
4. I think he eats small children...but that's just a hunch.

 

[lumm0x]

Mangini was a fine young Jedi.

 

[dfr52]

Quinn has played so little that he really can't be evaluated at this point.

 

[kdailey4315]

They announced today they're going back to Quinn. If he plays the rest of the year will he get his bonus? It will look very bad for the Browns if he just misses his threshold just from sitting these past few weeks.

 

[wheeler281]

I think Quinn's performance made it very easy to bench him regardless. If neither he nor Anderson are the quarterback's of the future, it's the only smart move the organization can make to bench him. Have to save that money for someone else in the future. Tim Tebow anyone?

Peyton Manning would look just as bad back there, There is normally a security blanket in a 1/2 way decent back to hand off to and take the pressure off. They do not even have that. The skill position guys on that team are so horrible
That being said they can't keep changing coaches. That is what got them into this mess. Mangini is trying his best to work with what he was given. Savage and Crennell left that team in such bad shape. It will take them 10yrs to pull out of it if they keep changing coaches ahnd philosophy. Isn't a coach in America that if given this team before camp could have done any better. IMO

 

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They announced today they're going back to Quinn. If he plays the rest of the year will he get his bonus? It will look very bad for the Browns if he just misses his threshold just from sitting these past few weeks.

No way. Maybe it's theoretically possible if he takes a huge amount of snaps per game, but he has to get 70% of total snaps taken by the team this season. With all of the games he's been out, that's not going to happen.

 

[ctmike]

I think Quinn's performance made it very easy to bench him regardless. If neither he nor Anderson are the quarterback's of the future, it's the only smart move the organization can make to bench him. Have to save that money for someone else in the future. Tim Tebow anyone?

Peyton Manning would look just as bad back there, There is normally a security blanket in a 1/2 way decent back to hand off to and take the pressure off. They do not even have that. The skill position guys on that team are so horrible
That being said they can't keep changing coaches. That is what got them into this mess. Mangini is trying his best to work with what he was given. Savage and Crennell left that team in such bad shape. It will take them 10yrs to pull out of it if they keep changing coaches ahnd philosophy. Isn't a coach in America that if given this team before camp could have done any better. IMO

Oh believe me I'm not saying he played badly and it was all his fault. I'm just saying if they are trying to hide him until he can't unlock those escalators and base it solely on his performance it'd be hard to argue with them. Sure it has more holes in the theory than swiss cheese, but it's not like they would have gone to the playoffs with him so it's a wise move for the organization to save that money in the long run.

 

[wheeler281]

I think Quinn's performance made it very easy to bench him regardless. If neither he nor Anderson are the quarterback's of the future, it's the only smart move the organization can make to bench him. Have to save that money for someone else in the future. Tim Tebow anyone?

Peyton Manning would look just as bad back there, There is normally a security blanket in a 1/2 way decent back to hand off to and take the pressure off. They do not even have that. The skill position guys on that team are so horrible
That being said they can't keep changing coaches. That is what got them into this mess. Mangini is trying his best to work with what he was given. Savage and Crennell left that team in such bad shape. It will take them 10yrs to pull out of it if they keep changing coaches ahnd philosophy. Isn't a coach in America that if given this team before camp could have done any better. IMO

Oh believe me I'm not saying he played badly and it was all his fault. I'm just saying if they are trying to hide him until he can't unlock those escalators and base it solely on his performance it'd be hard to argue with them. Sure it has more holes in the theory than swiss cheese, but it's not like they would have gone to the playoffs with him so it's a wise move for the organization to save that money in the long run.

I agree. That would have really tied them up

 

[P_Manning 18]

Brady Quinn back in at QB.