Do you prefer your rookie cards graded or not?

[dooly]

I only have brett cecil as my pc but i pretty much just go for raw entirely because of price... graded cards are nice and all but i dont have the money to afford them...i'll pick them up if i can get them for a little bit more than raw but i wouldnt pay the premium normally associated with them...also, for my pc collection i like all my cards from the same set/subset to be displayed in the same way so it would bother me to have some of my bowman chrome refractors be in bgs and others raw

 

[marterburn]

Ah ok, now I'll go with the last option. I have never purchased an 05 Matt Kemp card, so I can honestly say that his RCs are nowhere near the focus of my collection.

 

[gracecollector]

Don't know how to vote - I have a raw copy and a PSA 10 (except for 1) of all 13 Grace rookies. Don't want anything graded that's not a 10.

 

[hofautos]

Don't know how to vote - I have a raw copy and a PSA 10 (except for 1) of all 13 Grace rookies. Don't want anything graded that's not a 10.

"BGS 9.5 or better ONLY - will pay market if i need it"

actually, It also sounds like you aren't really a "rookie collector" you are a player collector who includes rookies of your player in your collection...I would probably just vote "i dont collect rookies".

 

[ThoseBackPages]

BGS9 or BGS 9.5 (with all subs of at least 9.5)

back a few years ago, i'd settle for a PSA9, but not anymore unless the price dictates picking it up

 

[hofautos]

BGS9 or BGS 9.5 (with all subs of at least 9.5)

back a few years ago, i'd settle for a PSA9, but not anymore unless the price dictates picking it up

I was wondering when someone would pick that choice.
I used to think that way, but there are just way TOO many cards I want that you cant find in that condition that "I NEED" in my collection that you cant find mint.

Also, I actually prefer PSA to Beckett now. I used to not feel that way but have recently made that transition.

Cards I would love but you cannot find mint graded, just for starters:

Zambrano Retro Refractor
Oswalt Retro Refractor
Many of the International Refractors are OC
and many more cards I dont want to disclose in fear of competition :lol:

BGS 9.5 of many are impossible or too outrageously priced too (e.g. 95 vlad refractor for one)

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

Re: GRADED OR NOT?? NAME YOUR POISON

Where is the "both" option? I buy/sell/trade anything and everything.

talking about preference for pc

I will often buy nice copies of 8s, 8.5s, and 9s and remove them from the slab for my collection. For cards after 1990, the graded cards that are NOT gems almost always sell for less than raw cards. And since some PSA 8s look better than some PSA 10s, I have no problem putting them in my collection.

I would rather have a 50/50 centered PSA 8 than a 60/40 centered PSA 10.


David

I buy a lot of bgs 9's and they rarely sell for less than raw...i only buy superstars though, so dont know about the others...
check completed for upton, longoria, cabrera, mauer, etc...i dont think you will find any raws that sell for more than 9s

current sampling
cabrera 9=393 raw=300
upton blue 9=250 raw=170

The Upton Blue is a bit off considering you are quoting the lowest from the "bunch" of blue Upton's that all ended at the same time (6 ended at one time, & you chose the cheapest...but what's even more off is that the "highest" of that bunch is the lowest Upton has sold in quite some time; which illustrates "supply & demand"- not even a week before this bunch of 6 sold a raw blue ref Upton went for $278). Now, another thing you have to consider is the most recent raw (which sold on Aug 5th for $191.38+3.25 s/h) & this was sold the day of his injury anouncement, which could have swayed his ending bids that night affecting the ending SV.
Where I'm coming from is in general BGS9's of this magnitude (at least in Chrome) normally sell right around the price of a raw. In my opinion, it's not normal practice to count BIN/BO's as accurate SV's (which is where the BGS9 that your using as an example came from).

 

[hofautos]

Re: GRADED OR NOT?? NAME YOUR POISON

Where is the "both" option? I buy/sell/trade anything and everything.

talking about preference for pc

I will often buy nice copies of 8s, 8.5s, and 9s and remove them from the slab for my collection. For cards after 1990, the graded cards that are NOT gems almost always sell for less than raw cards. And since some PSA 8s look better than some PSA 10s, I have no problem putting them in my collection.

I would rather have a 50/50 centered PSA 8 than a 60/40 centered PSA 10.


David

I buy a lot of bgs 9's and they rarely sell for less than raw...i only buy superstars though, so dont know about the others...
check completed for upton, longoria, cabrera, mauer, etc...i dont think you will find any raws that sell for more than 9s

current sampling
cabrera 9=393 raw=300
upton blue 9=250 raw=170

The Upton Blue is a bit off considering you are quoting the lowest from the "bunch" of blue Upton's that all ended at the same time (6 ended at one time, & you chose the cheapest...but what's even more off is that the "highest" of that bunch is the lowest Upton has sold in quite some time; which illustrates "supply & demand"- not even a week before this bunch of 6 sold a raw blue ref Upton went for $278). Now, another thing you have to consider is the most recent raw (which sold on Aug 5th for $191.38+3.25 s/h) & this was sold the day of his injury anouncement, which could have swayed his ending bids that night affecting the ending SV.
Where I'm coming from is in general BGS9's of this magnitude (at least in Chrome) normally sell right around the price of a raw. In my opinion, it's not normal practice to count BIN/BO's as accurate SV's (which is where the BGS9 that your using as an example came from).

I guess the only way to get an accurate test is when a player is selling hot...The last I can think of where you could find plentiful of both raw and graded for comparison purposes was Longoria and Pablo...and in both cases I can tell you for a fact that BGS 9s sold much higher. I will prove my point next time someone is selling off the charts and do a comparison then....for now I will just AGREE TO DISAGREE.

You would probably say its not fair to compare raw pujols to bgs 9 pujols also?

I will just say that I know that I am not alone, in that I am willing to pay more for BGS 9 than raw.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

BGS9 or BGS 9.5 (with all subs of at least 9.5)

back a few years ago, i'd settle for a PSA9, but not anymore unless the price dictates picking it up

I was wondering when someone would pick that choice.
I used to think that way, but there are just way TOO many cards I want that you cant find in that condition that "I NEED" in my collection that you cant find mint.

Also, I actually prefer PSA to Beckett now. I used to not feel that way but have recently made that transition.

Cards I would love but you cannot find mint graded, just for starters:

Zambrano Retro Refractor
Oswalt Retro Refractor
Many of the International Refractors are OC
and many more cards I dont want to disclose in fear of competition :lol:

BGS 9.5 of many are impossible or too outrageously priced too (e.g. 95 vlad refractor for one)

id just like to add that it took me a very long time to accept "base card refractors" as "rookie cards"
i understand that everyone makes their own "rule" for what is and is not a rc, and thats fine, but i certainly would not consider these rookie cards:

Zambrano Retro Refractor
Oswalt Retro Refractor

 

[hofautos]

BGS9 or BGS 9.5 (with all subs of at least 9.5)

back a few years ago, i'd settle for a PSA9, but not anymore unless the price dictates picking it up

I was wondering when someone would pick that choice.
I used to think that way, but there are just way TOO many cards I want that you cant find in that condition that "I NEED" in my collection that you cant find mint.

Also, I actually prefer PSA to Beckett now. I used to not feel that way but have recently made that transition.

Cards I would love but you cannot find mint graded, just for starters:

Zambrano Retro Refractor
Oswalt Retro Refractor
Many of the International Refractors are OC
and many more cards I dont want to disclose in fear of competition :lol:

BGS 9.5 of many are impossible or too outrageously priced too (e.g. 95 vlad refractor for one)

id just like to add that it took me a very long time to accept "base card refractors" as "rookie cards"
i understand that everyone makes their own "rule" for what is and is not a rc, and thats fine, but i certainly would not consider these rookie cards:

Zambrano Retro Refractor
Oswalt Retro Refractor

I consider any first year cards as rookies. The fact that you now accept refractors as rookies, should make it easier for you to accept my definition....I HATE BASE

 

[hofautos]

I lalso have been contemplating changing from collecting rookies to collecting FYLPA
"first year limited print autos" :mrgreen:

 

[ThoseBackPages]

BGS9 or BGS 9.5 (with all subs of at least 9.5)

back a few years ago, i'd settle for a PSA9, but not anymore unless the price dictates picking it up

I was wondering when someone would pick that choice.
I used to think that way, but there are just way TOO many cards I want that you cant find in that condition that "I NEED" in my collection that you cant find mint.

Also, I actually prefer PSA to Beckett now. I used to not feel that way but have recently made that transition.

Cards I would love but you cannot find mint graded, just for starters:

Zambrano Retro Refractor
Oswalt Retro Refractor
Many of the International Refractors are OC
and many more cards I dont want to disclose in fear of competition :lol:

BGS 9.5 of many are impossible or too outrageously priced too (e.g. 95 vlad refractor for one)

id just like to add that it took me a very long time to accept "base card refractors" as "rookie cards"
i understand that everyone makes their own "rule" for what is and is not a rc, and thats fine, but i certainly would not consider these rookie cards:

Zambrano Retro Refractor
Oswalt Retro Refractor

I consider any first year cards as rookies. The fact that you now accept refractors as rookies, should make it easier for you to accept my definition....I HATE BASE

i have no problem with "base" rc's, but with 2008 and on, i prefer a bgs9 refractor, especially ones that are numbered

 

[hofautos]

BGS9 or BGS 9.5 (with all subs of at least 9.5)

back a few years ago, i'd settle for a PSA9, but not anymore unless the price dictates picking it up

I was wondering when someone would pick that choice.
I used to think that way, but there are just way TOO many cards I want that you cant find in that condition that "I NEED" in my collection that you cant find mint.

Also, I actually prefer PSA to Beckett now. I used to not feel that way but have recently made that transition.

Cards I would love but you cannot find mint graded, just for starters:

Zambrano Retro Refractor
Oswalt Retro Refractor
Many of the International Refractors are OC
and many more cards I dont want to disclose in fear of competition :lol:

BGS 9.5 of many are impossible or too outrageously priced too (e.g. 95 vlad refractor for one)

id just like to add that it took me a very long time to accept "base card refractors" as "rookie cards"
i understand that everyone makes their own "rule" for what is and is not a rc, and thats fine, but i certainly would not consider these rookie cards:

Zambrano Retro Refractor
Oswalt Retro Refractor

I consider any first year cards as rookies. The fact that you now accept refractors as rookies, should make it easier for you to accept my definition....I HATE BASE

i have no problem with "base" rc's, but with 2008 and on, i prefer a bgs9 refractor, especially ones that are numbered

That's ok, i don't collect 2008 or newer...i don't even like collecting players unless that have 5+ years of consistency...too much chance for crash and burn...although i have made a couple exceptions, eg pablo!

 

[ThoseBackPages]

[quote="ThoseBackPages"kotm2c5]BGS9 or BGS 9.5 (with all subs of at least 9.5)

back a few years ago, i'd settle for a PSA9, but not anymore unless the price dictates picking it up

I was wondering when someone would pick that choice.
I used to think that way, but there are just way TOO many cards I want that you cant find in that condition that "I NEED" in my collection that you cant find mint.

Also, I actually prefer PSA to Beckett now. I used to not feel that way but have recently made that transition.

Cards I would love but you cannot find mint graded, just for starters:

Zambrano Retro Refractor
Oswalt Retro Refractor
Many of the International Refractors are OC
and many more cards I dont want to disclose in fear of competition :lol:

BGS 9.5 of many are impossible or too outrageously priced too (e.g. 95 vlad refractor for one)

id just like to add that it took me a very long time to accept "base card refractors" as "rookie cards"
i understand that everyone makes their own "rule" for what is and is not a rc, and thats fine, but i certainly would not consider these rookie cards:

Zambrano Retro Refractor
Oswalt Retro Refractor

I consider any first year cards as rookies. The fact that you now accept refractors as rookies, should make it easier for you to accept my definition....I HATE BASE

i have no problem with "base" rc's, but with 2008 and on, i prefer a bgs9 refractor, especially ones that are numbered

That's ok, i don't collect 2008 or newer...i don't even like collecting players unless that have 5+ years of consistency...too much chance for crash and burn...although i have made a couple exceptions, eg pablo![/quotekotm2c5]

i hear ya, but ive collected 96+% of rookie cards i want from 1980 forward, so as the new ones come out, i add them to my (get this) COLLECTION (heh)

 

[hofautos]

[quote="hofautos":d3pcfu7w][quote="ThoseBackPages":d3pcfu7w]BGS9 or BGS 9.5 (with all subs of at least 9.5)

back a few years ago, i'd settle for a PSA9, but not anymore unless the price dictates picking it up

I was wondering when someone would pick that choice.
I used to think that way, but there are just way TOO many cards I want that you cant find in that condition that "I NEED" in my collection that you cant find mint.

Also, I actually prefer PSA to Beckett now. I used to not feel that way but have recently made that transition.

Cards I would love but you cannot find mint graded, just for starters:

Zambrano Retro Refractor
Oswalt Retro Refractor
Many of the International Refractors are OC
and many more cards I dont want to disclose in fear of competition :lol:

BGS 9.5 of many are impossible or too outrageously priced too (e.g. 95 vlad refractor for one)

id just like to add that it took me a very long time to accept "base card refractors" as "rookie cards"
i understand that everyone makes their own "rule" for what is and is not a rc, and thats fine, but i certainly would not consider these rookie cards:

Zambrano Retro Refractor
Oswalt Retro Refractor

I consider any first year cards as rookies. The fact that you now accept refractors as rookies, should make it easier for you to accept my definition....I HATE BASE

i have no problem with "base" rc's, but with 2008 and on, i prefer a bgs9 refractor, especially ones that are numbered

That's ok, i don't collect 2008 or newer...i don't even like collecting players unless that have 5+ years of consistency...too much chance for crash and burn...although i have made a couple exceptions, eg pablo![/quote:d3pcfu7w]

i hear ya, but ive collected 96+% of rookie cards i want from 1980 forward, so as the new ones come out, i add them to my (get this) COLLECTION (heh)[/quote:d3pcfu7w]

Yea, I am almost at a stopping stage right now. I pretty much have a NICE card of every player I want from 1909 forward. I am not willing to pay the price for players when they start off big, because they ALMOST always come down.
I have a few cards I want to upgrade to 9s and 9.5s but besides that there really isnt anything else out there i want.
I think most newer players are overpriced and will come down, and I will get them once they prove the test of longevity and their prices are lower (e.g. longoria, lincecum). I wish there was more I wanted out there, but there really isnt too much left I can think of.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

Thinking about quickly, the only BGS9 that i really NEED is the Pujols, but i dont see that happening anytime soon.

 

[jeff550]

i didnt vote but i love the look of a bgs 8.5 or 9 with an auto grade. i love the sliver with the gold auto grade.

 

[hofautos]

Thinking about quickly, the only BGS9 that i really NEED is the Pujols, but i dont see that happening anytime soon.

Yea, I am waiting for him to be busted for steroids ...
Bonds Best rookie (tiffany bgs 9.5) was sellilng for over $2000 and is now $200...










....jk :lol:

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

If I'm buying higher end I want it graded so I know exactly what I'm getting. Other than that I dont really care.

The only time I want the graded rookie is with my Hanley collection where I want to get one 9 or better copy of each card.

 

[wolfmanalfredo]

I don't collect post 1990 Rc's if I can help it. I'll buy raw though if its a card for my pc. I guess I have bought a couple BGS 9.5's & PSA 10's so I'll put that down. As far as pre 1990 RC's, for the most part I collect rc's of 1985 and before. If I buy post 1960, looking for NM 7 or better, only PSA though