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[hofautos]

..WILL REPOST DUE TO CLARIFICATION OF INITIAL POST

 

[hofautos]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE ....

The challenge is to see if you can name one that has not yet been listed....
I will start...

2000 spx Oswalt

I will make this into a contest....
Whoever can name the last card, when no one else can add another will win a prize.
You can submit as many responses as you want.
I will post the prize later.

 

[chrome_ball]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE ....

Does the card have to be serial numbered as proof of the print run?

 

[hofautos]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE ....

Does the card have to be serial numbered as proof of the print run?

No, if it is stated print run, or generally accepted by the majority here.

 

[Rudzud]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE ....

1990 Topps Frank Thomas NNO

bam

I just blew your mind.

 

[hofautos]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE ....

1990 Topps Frank Thomas NNO

bam

I just blew your mind.

I believe that is classified as an error...there are plenty of errors before that card...but +1

 

[nevermore]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE .... CONTEST TIME

Nolan Ryan Venezuelan RC

 

[trevordchi]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE .... CONTEST TIME

Berkman International Refractor was before Oswalt and much lower print run.

 

[JoshHamilton]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE .... CONTEST TIME

The correct answer is Satchel Paige, Hal Newhouser, George Kell, and Larry Doby, all from 1948-49 Leaf

Short prints are not officially recognized before 1948 because very few (if any) uncut sheets are known to exist. There are theories that certain cards are short printed in various prewar sets, but without seeing the placement on uncut sheets no one can be 100% sure.

 

[hofautos]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE .... CONTEST TIME

The correct answer is Satchel Paige, Hal Newhouser, George Kell, and Larry Doby, all from 1948-49 Leaf

Short prints are not officially recognized before 1948 because very few (if any) uncut sheets are known to exist. There are theories that certain cards are short printed in various prewar sets, but without seeing the placement on uncut sheets no one can be 100% sure.

If this is accurate, I am going to edit the contest rules.
Please list only cards from 1980 to 2000.

 

[JoshHamilton]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE .... CONTEST TIME

In addition, the term "rookie card" is largely irrelevant with prewar cards, because there is still much unknown about many prewar issues....where and how they were distributed, knowing exactly when they were distributed, etc

 

[JoshHamilton]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE .... CONTEST TIME

The correct answer is Satchel Paige, Hal Newhouser, George Kell, and Larry Doby, all from 1948-49 Leaf

Short prints are not officially recognized before 1948 because very few (if any) uncut sheets are known to exist. There are theories that certain cards are short printed in various prewar sets, but without seeing the placement on uncut sheets no one can be 100% sure.

If this is accurate, I am going to edit the contest rules.
Please list only cards from 1960 to 2000.

Then edit the definition of a star, because the first post 1960 set to include "name" SP rookies is 1962 Topps....Sam McDowell, Joe Pepitone, Bob Uecker, and Jim Bouton. None are HOFers, but all contributed to the game or were stars in their day

The first SP HOFer is Tony Perez, 1965 Topps

Come to think of it, Perez is the only legitimately recognized SP of Hall of Famer. I do not consider tough series (1972 Topps hi # series) as short prints. All cards are printed in the same quantities, they were just printed at a smaller rate than previous series.

There is your answer.

 

[hofautos]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE .... CONTEST TIME

The correct answer is Satchel Paige, Hal Newhouser, George Kell, and Larry Doby, all from 1948-49 Leaf

Short prints are not officially recognized before 1948 because very few (if any) uncut sheets are known to exist. There are theories that certain cards are short printed in various prewar sets, but without seeing the placement on uncut sheets no one can be 100% sure.

If this is accurate, I am going to edit the contest rules.
Please list only cards from 1960 to 2000.

Then edit the definition of a star, because the first post 1960 set to include "name" SP rookies is 1962 Topps....Sam McDowell, Joe Pepitone, Bob Uecker, and Jim Bouton. None are HOFers, but all contributed to the game or were stars in their day

The first SP HOFer is Tony Perez, 1965 Topps

Come to think of it, Perez is the only legitimately recognized SP of Hall of Famer. I do not consider tough series (1972 Topps hi # series) as short prints. All cards are printed in the same quantities, they were just printed at a smaller rate than previous series.

There is your answer.

I don't understand what you mean by the high number series were printed at a smaller rate, but that all were printed in same quantities? Sounds like the same thing?

My main effort is to list all of the SP rookies, the first was just like a "bonus question".
My main desire is just cards after the mass produced 80s, but some of this vintage info is interesting, so thanks for sharing. Thanks issued!

I am going to edit the contest to be from 1980 to 2000 again for ease of getting the contest rolling.

 

[bouwob]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE .... CONTEST TIME

The ryan ven, may have been printed in the 10s of thousands. They just didnt survive in ven or very few have made there way over.

The thomas NNOF, as noted above was a printing defect more than a short print.

wasn't the 52 topps high numbers printed hard core than dumped into the river to make room for football? Would these constitute short prints??

 

[hofautos]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE .... CONTEST TIME

The ryan ven, may have been printed in the 10s of thousands. They just didnt survive in ven or very few have made there way over.

The thomas NNOF, as noted above was a printing defect more than a short print.

wasn't the 52 topps high numbers printed hard core than dumped into the river to make room for football? Would these constitute short prints??

Editing contest rules to list SP ROOKIES FROM 1980 to 2000.

 

[JoshHamilton]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE .... CONTEST TIME

The correct answer is Satchel Paige, Hal Newhouser, George Kell, and Larry Doby, all from 1948-49 Leaf

Short prints are not officially recognized before 1948 because very few (if any) uncut sheets are known to exist. There are theories that certain cards are short printed in various prewar sets, but without seeing the placement on uncut sheets no one can be 100% sure.

If this is accurate, I am going to edit the contest rules.
Please list only cards from 1960 to 2000.

Then edit the definition of a star, because the first post 1960 set to include "name" SP rookies is 1962 Topps....Sam McDowell, Joe Pepitone, Bob Uecker, and Jim Bouton. None are HOFers, but all contributed to the game or were stars in their day

The first SP HOFer is Tony Perez, 1965 Topps

Come to think of it, Perez is the only legitimately recognized SP of Hall of Famer. I do not consider tough series (1972 Topps hi # series) as short prints. All cards are printed in the same quantities, they were just printed at a smaller rate than previous series.

There is your answer.

I don't understand what you mean by the high number series were printed at a smaller rate, but that all were printed in same quantities? Sounds like the same thing?

My main effort is to list all of the SP rookies, the first was just like a "bonus question".
My main desire is just cards after the mass produced 80s, but some of this vintage info is interesting, so thanks for sharing. Thanks issued!

Before 1973, Topps issued their sets in several series over the course of the year. Certain series (usually the last, sometimes the first) are tougher to find than other series. The reason being is because the first and last series were always issued before or toward the end of the season when interest in baseball was low. The 1972 Topps 7th series is tougher to find than other series of '72 because it was printed in smaller quantities.

There are also isolated cases of certain cards being SP'd due to aftermarket events. Larry Fritsch was hoarding Hi series '67 stars like Brooks Robinson, Tony Perez, and a few others in the mid seventies and he had a fire and they were destroyed. The Brooks Robinson card in particular is a very tough card. But I don't consider those technically SP's. They're just harder to find because of events outside of Topps' control

 

[hofautos]

Re: CHALLENGE - NAME ALL OF THE ... CONTEST TIME - PRIZE POSTED

1991 DESERT SHIELD CHIPPER JONES
1998 CRUSADES MAGGLIO ORDONEZ
I want at least 50 entries for the contest to be valid...

come on, lets get them rollin'''

 

[Rudzud]

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1991 UD Final Edition Pedro Martinez

 

[angelsrockies4ever]

NVM