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Dunn on pace for 47HR this year, can he do it again?

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matchpenalty said:
KOBEARODLT said:
it sucks he was stupid and signed for more money with the nats when he could have went to a good team

What good team was offering him a decent contract?

I will be surprised if Dunn keeps up the 40 year totals in Washington. Isn't that park more of a pitchers yard and deeper fences? Great American Ballpatk in Cincinnati was home run haven. Short right field, ball carries very well and is always at the top or neat the top for easiest home run park in baseball.

Yeah, except Dunn's homers aren't exactly wallscrapers. He isn't a guy that suffers playing in a pitchers' park. I'll tell you one guy that has GREATLY benefited from GABP - Brandon Phillips.
 

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I would be surprised if Dunn isn't traded to a contender before the trade deadline! :ugeek:

i agree. i bet he ends up with some AL team who is in the race.
 

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Dunn will end up with his typical 40 HR season. He is one of the few flat out mashers in the game.

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when the red sox were after Texiera they should have been after Dunn.. 20 mil versus 128 mil and you get the bigger offensive numbers and a guy who doesn't need a hitters ballpark.. but it just goes to show the market was very weak for him if none of the tops teams would make any kind of offer to him.
 

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Adam Dunn is one of if not the most underrated player in the game. Just think about how difficult it is to hit 40 home runs in a season and then consider he has done it 5 straight years! That is very impressive. Yeah he does strike out a lot but he also gets walked a lot.

I always wonder if he will be in the HOF when all is said and Dunn (I couldn't help myself), I think he should be but I think his strikeouts will hurt his any chance he has.
 

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I think everyone knows I am a huge fan of Dunn. I think he will reach his 40 this year and then some. He may not hit 50, but I don't think 43-46 is out of the question. As mentioned by someone else, very seldom does Dunn hit a wallscraping homerun. He tends to destroy the ball.

Everyone has already mentioned his solid numbers, but I have to say it again. Dunn's averages for the last 5 years are: 41 HRs, 100 RBIs, 98 Runs, 111 BBs, and an OBP of .382. I don't care if he strikes out 160+ times or hits .240 or not. The other numbers he puts up are stellar. He is so underrated it is unreal.

*EDIT* I had put his BBs average as 144 when it's actually 111.

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Reds in 2009 said:
I always wonder if he will be in the HOF when all is said and Dunn (I couldn't help myself), I think he should be but I think his strikeouts will hurt his any chance he has.

There was a HUGE thread about this on the old boards right before we switched over. I agree that Dunn is underrated, and I was surprised to learn how high his OBP is, but I still don't believe he will make the hall. He has never led the league in anything, and he is a pretty bad defender. Consistency alone, even if it is at a pretty good level of play, does not make a HOFer.

Flame away; many did on that thread.
 

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Mighty Bombjack said:
[quote="Reds in 2009":xhyed1qc]

I always wonder if he will be in the HOF when all is said and Dunn (I couldn't help myself), I think he should be but I think his strikeouts will hurt his any chance he has.

There was a HUGE thread about this on the old boards right before we switched over. I agree that Dunn is underrated, and I was surprised to learn how high his OBP is, but I still don't believe he will make the hall. He has never led the league in anything, and he is a pretty bad defender. Consistency alone, even if it is at a pretty good level of play, does not make a HOFer.

Flame away; many did on that thread.[/quote:xhyed1qc]

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, even if it's wrong. ;) :lol: I'm just joking with you.

True Dunn had only ever led the league in Ks, but he did lead the league in walks last year. I know it's only one season and it was walks, but it's better than Ks. :D


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Baseball stats are like a girl in a bikini, it shows you a lot but doesn't show you everything.

Sure Dunn has a lot of strikeouts and a low batting average but he is a lot better player then he gets credit for.
 

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Yeah Dunn does crush a lot of his homers. But he did get 4-5 cheapies a year in Great American Smallpark. I hope he does get his 40 plus in DC. He is on pace. Anyone know how the Nats Stadium breaks down for home runs. How is it for lefties overall?
He will be an interesting case for HOF. If he plays another 10 years he could get in the 600-700 range then he will be a lock. But has the guy even made an ALL Star team? I know he has zero postseason games and plays horrible defense. But he should still have another 10 years of ball ahead of him if he wants. I can see him DH for AL team once his Nats deals ends.
 

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Dunn has played in 1 All Star Game. I think if he gets into the 600+ HR territory that he will be a HOF lock. He's definitely going to have to hit more than just 500 to even get consideration. People put way to much emphasis on his BA and Ks. Manny's not a very good defender, but when he hits .300+, 40, and 100, most people don't even mention it. Dunn hits .240, 40, and 100 and you would think the guy did nothing to help his team. People bash him left and right about his defense, Ks, and BA.




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He is well on his way to the HOF IMO...Great OBP + great production = superstar. His Ks and defense do hurt him, but I love his overall production.
 

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Most seasons with 40 or more Home Runs: http://www.baseball-reference.com/play- ... areit/EueX

Ruth had 7 in a row, from 1926 to 1932.
ARod had 6 in a row, from 1998 to 2003.
Sosa had 6 in a row, also from 1998 to 2003.
Duke Snider had 5 in a row, from 1953 to 1957 (the only years he hit 40 in his career).
Ralph Kiner had 5 in a row, from 1947 to 1957.
Griffey had 5 in a row, from 1996 to 2000.
Bonds had 5 in a row, from 2000 to 2004.

No one else, besides Dunn, has hit 40 or more home runs in more than 5 consecutive seasons.


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leatherman said:
Most seasons with 40 or more Home Runs: http://www.baseball-reference.com/play- ... areit/EueX

Ruth had 7 in a row, from 1926 to 1932.
ARod had 6 in a row, from 1998 to 2003.
Sosa had 6 in a row, also from 1998 to 2003.
Duke Snider had 5 in a row, from 1953 to 1957 (the only years he hit 40 in his career).
Ralph Kiner had 5 in a row, from 1947 to 1957.
Griffey had 5 in a row, from 1996 to 2000.
Bonds had 5 in a row, from 2000 to 2004.

No one else, besides Dunn, has hit 40 or more home runs in more than 5 consecutive seasons.


David
Hey there's the answer to the question. :D ..thanks given!
 

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soccerman034 said:
He is well on his way to the HOF IMO...Great OBP + great production = superstar. His Ks and defense do hurt him, but I love his overall production.

But see, his OBP and production are above average, not great. He has never even been considered in any MVP conversation, and he's never led the league in anything but Ks and walks (last year). In fact, he really hasn't been in the top 5 in any offensive category other than HRs and walks, though his walks, and hence his OBP, are getting better. He is an above average offensive player, but, as muskiesfan has pointed out, he will need over 600 HRs to get into the hall.

BTW, the grouping of "only players with 40+ HRs in 5+ years" is a pretty disingenuous stat, as scraping by with 40 each year in a VERY offensive period of the sport doesn't fairly compare with the other names on the list, who all pretty much dominated in their collective eras. As Bill James has pointed out, you can come up with some pretty creative groupings, where an individual player is grouped (at the bottom) with a bunch of established HOFers. It is not really an effective argument for HOF inclusion.
 

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