f2tornado
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Just block him now. The most annoying effing buyer I've dealt with in more than 17 years of eBay.
First, this buyer could have helped me out by agreeing to cancel a transaction where I mistakenly sent his purchased 9.5 (instead of the raw card) to someone else. Nope. Too damn easy. I put his shipping label on a mailer and sent it to the person who got the wrong card and told him no need to pay until it arrives. Dipsh-- got the right card and the person who helped me out got the right card and a nice bonus. Annoying bidder then makes an offer on one of my Stephen Hill 9.5 cards. I accept. The guy then gets upset when my BGS 10 of same card sold for less than what he paid for the 9.5. Welcome to eBay. BLOCK BLOCK BLOCK!
Buyer: Ok I got but I watched the PRESTINE 10 sell for $26 that I upped for the final bid/win and I paid $22.50 for this one. Don't you think this is a good price for this card? I got screwed paying more almost $40 for the 9.5 when the 10 sold for less then $30. I think it would be very nice if you would let me keep the chrome card. [<context> The Chrome card mentioned he purchased previously for $14 and I bent over getting it to him since he would not cancel. As part of the BO, I agreed to refund this card to lower the cash price of his offer </context>]. I'm really getting screwed on this offer. I hope you find it in your heart to let me keep as these are both good prices on both that I have paid for already. You made out on both sales pretty well here! I'm not trying to be a dick here at all. I'm sure if you were in my shoes you would be saying the same thing and I would agree! Hope we can compromise on this situation? Drew
Me: No. You're thinking wrong here. I got screwed on the BGS 10 card. It should have easily went for $40+ and it would have went for that price and more with some patience. That's eBay. If you thought it went cheap then you could have helped me out and bid on it. I have larger priorities right now since I was recently hired by the NDDOT after 14 months of unemployment. I start the 12th of next month and have a month of training bouncing around the state with bills to pay. I'm selling quickly now at profit or loss (mostly loss this week) and will get back in the game early next year once settled 300 miles west of here. I'd prefer to keep all the Hill cards but it just ain't happening. Hopefully I can pick them up at similar cost during the off season when I'm not counting pennies to pay the mortgage. If you want to keep the Refractor 9.5 you can send $9.50 via Paypal otherwise send it back. That's a $5 discount on the hammer price. -JT
Buyer: I think the best thing to do here is just return both cards for a refund. We're both getting screwed here and I think it would just be best if we did it this way. I'll return them both on Monday. Drew
My response: I will respectfully ask you to not participate in any more of my eBay items. I bent over backwards to get the BGS 9.5 to you after making a shipping mistake when you could have simply agreed to cancel the transaction. You then get upset that someone got a slightly better deal than you did. Get over it. I'll show you hundred of examples when this happens. I will be reporting this transaction to eBay seller support and you will be effectively blocked from engaging in anymore buying activity from this seller account. Adios. -JT
I followed with: Trading cards are a lot like stock traded on Wall Street. They go up and down. If you bought some tech stock on Monday for $50 a share and are not happy investors are getting the same stock for $30 a share on Friday you cannot simply return your shares for a refund. This defeats the purpose of the market. I offer 14 day return policy but it was never meant for this kind of market manipulation. I have since filed a report with eBay, added you to the block list, and mentioned the story on FreedomCardBoard so everyone else can block you. Take care.
Him: Now your [sic] threating me and this will need to be brought to ebay's attention as this is against eBay policy. I was never mean to you in any way and this is what I get. Wow don't know why you are being like this over a few $ so go ahead block me I don't give a crap! I'll just go on there myself and exspose your selling actions. Your [sic] the seller I'm the buyer it's your job to make the buyer happy not piss them off like your [sic] doing now. Your [sic...it's you're!!!] being very rude and very unprofessional. I don't want to deal with you ever again anyways after this. Your [sic...again] one seller out of 2 million+ All I did was ask a question and you lost your cool so I don't want to deal with sellers like you that send threats to me when all I did was ask a question. Think about your actions here. All I said was I just want to return both items, I'm not happy with this. I'm going to do so and you'll never here from me again. I don't need headaches over some damn sports cards and you are making this harder then it should. I'm done!
I'm not talking with the dude any more. If he returns the cards I will refund his money minus all the shipping costs and any money I lose reselling the stuff. He can escalate to eBay for all I care. If eBay sides with this crap then it defeats the purpose of auctions.
Lastly, I hate selling Stephen Effing Hill cards. More damn eBay problems than any other player in history.
Edited to add the buyer opened an item not as described case. Since this is based on false pretense and an abuse of the buyer protection system with eBay messages as proof, I went ahead and forwarded all the information to eBay. I'm usually pretty cool with refunds bot not for buyers who end up on the wrong side of a volatile market. This is only the second eBay buyer in 17 years I outright told never to come back. I will be fighting this case to the bitter end. If eBay sides with this buyer then the entire speculative trading card market on eBay is destroyed as sellers absorb all of the market risk within 45 days of a sale. I'm already considering sending all my raw cards to CMOC.
Just block him now. The most annoying effing buyer I've dealt with in more than 17 years of eBay.
First, this buyer could have helped me out by agreeing to cancel a transaction where I mistakenly sent his purchased 9.5 (instead of the raw card) to someone else. Nope. Too damn easy. I put his shipping label on a mailer and sent it to the person who got the wrong card and told him no need to pay until it arrives. Dipsh-- got the right card and the person who helped me out got the right card and a nice bonus. Annoying bidder then makes an offer on one of my Stephen Hill 9.5 cards. I accept. The guy then gets upset when my BGS 10 of same card sold for less than what he paid for the 9.5. Welcome to eBay. BLOCK BLOCK BLOCK!
Buyer: Ok I got but I watched the PRESTINE 10 sell for $26 that I upped for the final bid/win and I paid $22.50 for this one. Don't you think this is a good price for this card? I got screwed paying more almost $40 for the 9.5 when the 10 sold for less then $30. I think it would be very nice if you would let me keep the chrome card. [<context> The Chrome card mentioned he purchased previously for $14 and I bent over getting it to him since he would not cancel. As part of the BO, I agreed to refund this card to lower the cash price of his offer </context>]. I'm really getting screwed on this offer. I hope you find it in your heart to let me keep as these are both good prices on both that I have paid for already. You made out on both sales pretty well here! I'm not trying to be a dick here at all. I'm sure if you were in my shoes you would be saying the same thing and I would agree! Hope we can compromise on this situation? Drew
Me: No. You're thinking wrong here. I got screwed on the BGS 10 card. It should have easily went for $40+ and it would have went for that price and more with some patience. That's eBay. If you thought it went cheap then you could have helped me out and bid on it. I have larger priorities right now since I was recently hired by the NDDOT after 14 months of unemployment. I start the 12th of next month and have a month of training bouncing around the state with bills to pay. I'm selling quickly now at profit or loss (mostly loss this week) and will get back in the game early next year once settled 300 miles west of here. I'd prefer to keep all the Hill cards but it just ain't happening. Hopefully I can pick them up at similar cost during the off season when I'm not counting pennies to pay the mortgage. If you want to keep the Refractor 9.5 you can send $9.50 via Paypal otherwise send it back. That's a $5 discount on the hammer price. -JT
Buyer: I think the best thing to do here is just return both cards for a refund. We're both getting screwed here and I think it would just be best if we did it this way. I'll return them both on Monday. Drew
My response: I will respectfully ask you to not participate in any more of my eBay items. I bent over backwards to get the BGS 9.5 to you after making a shipping mistake when you could have simply agreed to cancel the transaction. You then get upset that someone got a slightly better deal than you did. Get over it. I'll show you hundred of examples when this happens. I will be reporting this transaction to eBay seller support and you will be effectively blocked from engaging in anymore buying activity from this seller account. Adios. -JT
I followed with: Trading cards are a lot like stock traded on Wall Street. They go up and down. If you bought some tech stock on Monday for $50 a share and are not happy investors are getting the same stock for $30 a share on Friday you cannot simply return your shares for a refund. This defeats the purpose of the market. I offer 14 day return policy but it was never meant for this kind of market manipulation. I have since filed a report with eBay, added you to the block list, and mentioned the story on FreedomCardBoard so everyone else can block you. Take care.
Him: Now your [sic] threating me and this will need to be brought to ebay's attention as this is against eBay policy. I was never mean to you in any way and this is what I get. Wow don't know why you are being like this over a few $ so go ahead block me I don't give a crap! I'll just go on there myself and exspose your selling actions. Your [sic] the seller I'm the buyer it's your job to make the buyer happy not piss them off like your [sic] doing now. Your [sic...it's you're!!!] being very rude and very unprofessional. I don't want to deal with you ever again anyways after this. Your [sic...again] one seller out of 2 million+ All I did was ask a question and you lost your cool so I don't want to deal with sellers like you that send threats to me when all I did was ask a question. Think about your actions here. All I said was I just want to return both items, I'm not happy with this. I'm going to do so and you'll never here from me again. I don't need headaches over some damn sports cards and you are making this harder then it should. I'm done!
I'm not talking with the dude any more. If he returns the cards I will refund his money minus all the shipping costs and any money I lose reselling the stuff. He can escalate to eBay for all I care. If eBay sides with this crap then it defeats the purpose of auctions.
Lastly, I hate selling Stephen Effing Hill cards. More damn eBay problems than any other player in history.
Edited to add the buyer opened an item not as described case. Since this is based on false pretense and an abuse of the buyer protection system with eBay messages as proof, I went ahead and forwarded all the information to eBay. I'm usually pretty cool with refunds bot not for buyers who end up on the wrong side of a volatile market. This is only the second eBay buyer in 17 years I outright told never to come back. I will be fighting this case to the bitter end. If eBay sides with this buyer then the entire speculative trading card market on eBay is destroyed as sellers absorb all of the market risk within 45 days of a sale. I'm already considering sending all my raw cards to CMOC.
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