ebay seller blocked me...

[bballcardkid]

On the reverse end, I don't make my best offer to sellers because I know it will never, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-var be accepted.

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.
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Wrong. If I get an offer that I like, I accept it. It doesn't matter what value it is. Nearly all of my auctions are BIN/BO, and I would estimate that over 75% of the sales I make are either due to the BIN being hit, or from me accepting the FIRST offer.

If buyers submit offers at 50% or below the last completed auction (and I'm talking about something significant like $100 on a $200 SV card, not $1 on a $2 SV card), then well, they made the decision for me to block them rather easy. Eff em. They lose out on a card.

 

[maxpower]

I like the "You block me when I could have put a huge offer on your other auction" reply. Yeah, you could put a big offer on another one of my cards -- but you're more likely to put in the same 10% bid on it, too.

Agree 1000%. I don't block bidders for lowball offers, but I've never had one come back and surprise me with a good price on any of my other cards.

If someone is truly looking to deal, I suspect that they typically try to come with a respectable initial offer. It's just good negotiating practice... don't piss off the other party with a ridiculous, time-wasting offer.

 

[maxpower]

On the reverse end, I don't make my best offer to sellers because I know it will never, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-var be accepted.

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.
.

Wrong. If I get an offer that I like, I accept it. It doesn't matter what value it is. Nearly all of my auctions are BIN/BO, and I would estimate that over 75% of the sales I make are either due to the BIN being hit, or from me accepting the FIRST offer.

If buyers submit offers at 50% or below the last completed auction (and I'm talking about something significant like $100 on a $200 SV card, not $1 on a $2 SV card), then well, they made the decision for me to block them rather easy. Eff em. They lose out on a card.

Agreed on this too. I've accepted hundreds of first offers.

 

[jcmint]

well said

[quote="Jeff N.":2ta88u7i]I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

I've blocked people for similar, but only if it was truly a ****** bid. IE: Recent sales history (10 transactions strong) of an item is $75, I list it at $85 BIN/BO and an offer comes in at $20...I'll block them.

I could do auto-decline, but there are times I've seen familiar IDs shoot an offer that I know I can do offline with them directly, or people I've dealt with before.

Then again, if buyers are supposedly submitting a "Best Offer", why give three "bests?"

Here's my best offer.
Here's my bestest offer.
Here's my triple dog dare you offer.

Which is why it's not truly a best offer, making it silly to block people for lowball offers IMO. Sometimes it seems people just want to open negotiation, so a counter-offer might be more beneficial for the seller than blocking.

To each his own, but blocking based on an offer just seems downright stupid to me. What if the same person would have been willing to pay double what one of your other listings was worth? Nope, he can't because he is blocked. Doesn't make any sense to me, because it's simply not a hassle to click the decline button if you're that offended by an offer.

I disagree.

If some ass clown is offering 25% of all of the recent sales history of a card, that isn't opening negotiation...it's being an ass clown.

Let's say you are looking at buying a house, and the owner is asking for $400K...you offer $100K. No seller in their right mind would consider you a serious candidate after that offer. You want to open up for negotiation, be within a reasonable range.

Cards typically sells for $100, and you offer $80...sure...fair enough...but if you offer $25...you're a ******.

(NOTE: It has nothing to do with "being offended" by an offer, eBay is offensive enough, but if eBay is a business...treat it as such. Short of haggling in India, I can't see this lowball douchery accepted anywhere else in North America, so why on eBay.)[/quote:2ta88u7i]

 

[Bob Loblaw]

On the reverse end, I don't make my best offer to sellers because I know it will never, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-var be accepted.

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.
.

Wrong. If I get an offer that I like, I accept it. It doesn't matter what value it is. Nearly all of my auctions are BIN/BO, and I would estimate that over 75% of the sales I make are either due to the BIN being hit, or from me accepting the FIRST offer.

If buyers submit offers at 50% or below the last completed auction (and I'm talking about something significant like $100 on a $200 SV card, not $1 on a $2 SV card), then well, they made the decision for me to block them rather easy. Eff em. They lose out on a card.

Agreed on this too. I've accepted hundreds of first offers.

I guess I've never bought from you two.

THat being said, I just accepted a $70 offer as a 1st offer on a $100 listed item. It doesn't happen often.

 

[glewis22]

I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

No, they really dont. Tool.

 

[pujolsmvp2005]

I am low balled frequently on my items for sale. I don't have the time or energy to block bidders. I simply let their offer expire. I think it probably is better to just ignore the offer especially when the offer is far below 50% of the asking price and they will go away.

It is kinda like when my wife made me sit outside in the hot Florida sun during a yard sale and a women came up to me and looked through a box of VHS tapes that I had $1 each on......She said, "will you take .25cents?" I was sitting right next to the box in my lounge chair with my sunglasses on and just sat dead still and ignored her. She said...."excuse me...would you take .25 cents each?" ...Again, I just looked straight ahead and ignored her as I thought to myself WTF!!....its a freekin buck lady!! She huffed and just walked away, so.....you see, it does work, just ignore them!

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

No, they really dont. Tool.

Who the **** are you?

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

[quote="Jeff N.":33pcigm6]I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

No, they really dont. Tool.

Who the frack are you?[/quote:33pcigm6]
He's Grampa Al Lewis from the Munsters, back from the dead.

He's also a master eBay buyer, seller and prospector...or so he implies. He also enjoys calling out people as "tools" and "idiots."

 

[zep33]

I don't bother with counter offers when the 1st offer is less than 50% of my BIN price. I just hit decline and move on. And I rarely set up an auto decline cause I never know when I might just decide to take a lowball offer after all. If it's been sitting on Ebay for a while and it's something I don't plan on keeping, I might just let it go. Offering me 25-40% of the BIN price doesn't interest me enough to negotiate. They can always use their other 2 offers to be realistic.

 

[dp33]

Well, about the only thing I can say regarding this thread is that 200lbhockeyplayer would not be added to my blocked list...

Although I will confess that I don't mind counteroffering a lowball bid with one that's a nickel less than my BIN - hopefully I'm not losing out on a sale!

Oh, and OP, I hope you can work something out one way or another.

 

[All The Hype]

[quote="Jeff N.":20jhwjcv]I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

I've blocked people for similar, but only if it was truly a ****** bid. IE: Recent sales history (10 transactions strong) of an item is $75, I list it at $85 BIN/BO and an offer comes in at $20...I'll block them.

I could do auto-decline, but there are times I've seen familiar IDs shoot an offer that I know I can do offline with them directly, or people I've dealt with before.

Then again, if buyers are supposedly submitting a "Best Offer", why give three "bests?"

Here's my best offer.
Here's my bestest offer.
Here's my triple dog dare you offer.

Which is why it's not truly a best offer, making it silly to block people for lowball offers IMO. Sometimes it seems people just want to open negotiation, so a counter-offer might be more beneficial for the seller than blocking.

To each his own, but blocking based on an offer just seems downright stupid to me. What if the same person would have been willing to pay double what one of your other listings was worth? Nope, he can't because he is blocked. Doesn't make any sense to me, because it's simply not a hassle to click the decline button if you're that offended by an offer.

I disagree.

If some ass clown is offering 25% of all of the recent sales history of a card, that isn't opening negotiation...it's being an ass clown.

Let's say you are looking at buying a house, and the owner is asking for $400K...you offer $100K. No seller in their right mind would consider you a serious candidate after that offer. You want to open up for negotiation, be within a reasonable range.

Cards typically sells for $100, and you offer $80...sure...fair enough...but if you offer $25...you're a ******.

(NOTE: It has nothing to do with "being offended" by an offer, eBay is offensive enough, but if eBay is a business...treat it as such. Short of haggling in India, I can't see this lowball douchery accepted anywhere else in North America, so why on eBay.)[/quote:20jhwjcv]


Thought I'd bump this for a new experience for me.

I listed an item BIN/BO 59.99 last night for a card that gets 45-50. Got one offer for $42, countered to $48. Got another offer of $30, countered to $48. The 2nd guy counters my counter to $31. Within minutes, the first guy accepts my initial counter of $48, ending the listing.

For the first time, I actually had the urge to block someone for their offer (I didn't). The card gets $25-$30 raw and this happened to be a BGS 9.5 copy, and while I don't mind the initial low offer, I found their counter from $30 to $31 to be completely irritating and unprofessional...simply because it was a waste of my two seconds to click the offer, if for no other reason.

So I'll still disagree with you about blocking someone based on their initial offer, but I now have a more clear understanding of why you might block someone who sends a ridiculous counteroffer like this.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

[quote="ALL_THE_HYPE":2g6s29za]

[quote="Jeff N.":2g6s29za]I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

I've blocked people for similar, but only if it was truly a ****** bid. IE: Recent sales history (10 transactions strong) of an item is $75, I list it at $85 BIN/BO and an offer comes in at $20...I'll block them.

I could do auto-decline, but there are times I've seen familiar IDs shoot an offer that I know I can do offline with them directly, or people I've dealt with before.

Then again, if buyers are supposedly submitting a "Best Offer", why give three "bests?"

Here's my best offer.
Here's my bestest offer.
Here's my triple dog dare you offer.

Which is why it's not truly a best offer, making it silly to block people for lowball offers IMO. Sometimes it seems people just want to open negotiation, so a counter-offer might be more beneficial for the seller than blocking.

To each his own, but blocking based on an offer just seems downright stupid to me. What if the same person would have been willing to pay double what one of your other listings was worth? Nope, he can't because he is blocked. Doesn't make any sense to me, because it's simply not a hassle to click the decline button if you're that offended by an offer.

I disagree.

If some ass clown is offering 25% of all of the recent sales history of a card, that isn't opening negotiation...it's being an ass clown.

Let's say you are looking at buying a house, and the owner is asking for $400K...you offer $100K. No seller in their right mind would consider you a serious candidate after that offer. You want to open up for negotiation, be within a reasonable range.

Cards typically sells for $100, and you offer $80...sure...fair enough...but if you offer $25...you're a ******.

(NOTE: It has nothing to do with "being offended" by an offer, eBay is offensive enough, but if eBay is a business...treat it as such. Short of haggling in India, I can't see this lowball douchery accepted anywhere else in North America, so why on eBay.)[/quote:2g6s29za]


Thought I'd bump this for a new experience for me.

I listed an item BIN/BO 59.99 last night for a card that gets 45-50. Got one offer for $42, countered to $48. Got another offer of $30, countered to $48. The 2nd guy counters my counter to $31. Within minutes, the first guy accepts my initial counter of $48, ending the listing.

For the first time, I actually had the urge to block someone for their offer (I didn't). The card gets $25-$30 raw and this happened to be a BGS 9.5 copy, and while I don't mind the initial low offer, I found their counter from $30 to $31 to be completely irritating and unprofessional...simply because it was a waste of my two seconds to click the offer, if for no other reason.

So I'll still disagree with you about blocking someone based on their initial offer, but I now have a more clear understanding of why you might block someone who sends a ridiculous counteroffer like this.[/quote:2g6s29za]

I'm going to hazard a guess and believe that everyone who has posted about blocking someone does not have a job that involves any negotiation.

A large part of what I do is to get a situation into a position where the parties can negotiate. And while one or both parties come to the table with unreasonable expectations, it's the other party's job to advise and convince the first party to get "with the program" and lower/raise their demand/offer.

eBay gives you 3 bites at the apple. It's not smart to use your best offer with the first. THat's the third offer. The first two are to try to feel out the other person and use the little note function to try to convince the party that your amount is more acceptable.

Let's put this into a more real world setting.

Plaintiff's case is worth $20k. Does Plaintiff come to the mediation demanding $20k? No - because of the process, we know that there has to be a back and forth, and the defendant will offer $10k. If the Plaintiff wants more, they can't get the defendant to give a little more without giving something up -- so the case may settle at $15k. Conversely, the Plaintiff demands $200k on that same $20k case. Defendant will come to the table with $2k.

Does it mean that the parties should walk away? HELL NO. It means that they need to spend time getting to that $20k, and they very may will.

My problem with the BO issue is that it is done by people who don't know how to negotiate (not a knock; most people don't) and most people are *******! They're either afraid to respond to a high BO because they're afraid of getting banned or they're afraid to make an offer but for it be too high.

 

[All The Hype]

[quote="ALL_THE_HYPE":yal96q06]

[quote="ALL_THE_HYPE":yal96q06]

[quote="Jeff N.":yal96q06]I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

I've blocked people for similar, but only if it was truly a ****** bid. IE: Recent sales history (10 transactions strong) of an item is $75, I list it at $85 BIN/BO and an offer comes in at $20...I'll block them.

I could do auto-decline, but there are times I've seen familiar IDs shoot an offer that I know I can do offline with them directly, or people I've dealt with before.

Then again, if buyers are supposedly submitting a "Best Offer", why give three "bests?"

Here's my best offer.
Here's my bestest offer.
Here's my triple dog dare you offer.

Which is why it's not truly a best offer, making it silly to block people for lowball offers IMO. Sometimes it seems people just want to open negotiation, so a counter-offer might be more beneficial for the seller than blocking.

To each his own, but blocking based on an offer just seems downright stupid to me. What if the same person would have been willing to pay double what one of your other listings was worth? Nope, he can't because he is blocked. Doesn't make any sense to me, because it's simply not a hassle to click the decline button if you're that offended by an offer.

I disagree.

If some ass clown is offering 25% of all of the recent sales history of a card, that isn't opening negotiation...it's being an ass clown.

Let's say you are looking at buying a house, and the owner is asking for $400K...you offer $100K. No seller in their right mind would consider you a serious candidate after that offer. You want to open up for negotiation, be within a reasonable range.

Cards typically sells for $100, and you offer $80...sure...fair enough...but if you offer $25...you're a ******.

(NOTE: It has nothing to do with "being offended" by an offer, eBay is offensive enough, but if eBay is a business...treat it as such. Short of haggling in India, I can't see this lowball douchery accepted anywhere else in North America, so why on eBay.)[/quote:yal96q06]


Thought I'd bump this for a new experience for me.

I listed an item BIN/BO 59.99 last night for a card that gets 45-50. Got one offer for $42, countered to $48. Got another offer of $30, countered to $48. The 2nd guy counters my counter to $31. Within minutes, the first guy accepts my initial counter of $48, ending the listing.

For the first time, I actually had the urge to block someone for their offer (I didn't). The card gets $25-$30 raw and this happened to be a BGS 9.5 copy, and while I don't mind the initial low offer, I found their counter from $30 to $31 to be completely irritating and unprofessional...simply because it was a waste of my two seconds to click the offer, if for no other reason.

So I'll still disagree with you about blocking someone based on their initial offer, but I now have a more clear understanding of why you might block someone who sends a ridiculous counteroffer like this.[/quote:yal96q06]

I'm going to hazard a guess and believe that everyone who has posted about blocking someone does not have a job that involves any negotiation.

A large part of what I do is to get a situation into a position where the parties can negotiate. And while one or both parties come to the table with unreasonable expectations, it's the other party's job to advise and convince the first party to get "with the program" and lower/raise their demand/offer.

eBay gives you 3 bites at the apple. It's not smart to use your best offer with the first. THat's the third offer. The first two are to try to feel out the other person and use the little note function to try to convince the party that your amount is more acceptable.

Let's put this into a more real world setting.

Plaintiff's case is worth $20k. Does Plaintiff come to the mediation demanding $20k? No - because of the process, we know that there has to be a back and forth, and the defendant will offer $10k. If the Plaintiff wants more, they can't get the defendant to give a little more without giving something up -- so the case may settle at $15k. Conversely, the Plaintiff demands $200k on that same $20k case. Defendant will come to the table with $2k.

Does it mean that the parties should walk away? HELL NO. It means that they need to spend time getting to that $20k, and they very may will.

My problem with the BO issue is that it is done by people who don't know how to negotiate (not a knock; most people don't) and most people are *******! They're either afraid to respond to a high BO because they're afraid of getting banned or they're afraid to make an offer but for it be too high.[/quote:yal96q06]

Yeah I agree with you. I have no problem with low offers, it's part of the negotiation process. The thing that caught my attention was that the going rate of this card is pretty well-established and my counter was well-within that range, while his first AND second offers were a good 33-40% below that range. Ultimately it doesn't really bother me because it reallly doesn't affect me or my sale; and while I did not and do not intend to block this person, it was a somewhat enlightening experience.

 

[JVC]

I'm going to hazard a guess and believe that everyone who has posted about blocking someone does not have a job that involves any negotiation.

A large part of what I do is to get a situation into a position where the parties can negotiate. And while one or both parties come to the table with unreasonable expectations, it's the other party's job to advise and convince the first party to get "with the program" and lower/raise their demand/offer.

eBay gives you 3 bites at the apple. It's not smart to use your best offer with the first. THat's the third offer. The first two are to try to feel out the other person and use the little note function to try to convince the party that your amount is more acceptable.

Let's put this into a more real world setting.

Plaintiff's case is worth $20k. Does Plaintiff come to the mediation demanding $20k? No - because of the process, we know that there has to be a back and forth, and the defendant will offer $10k. If the Plaintiff wants more, they can't get the defendant to give a little more without giving something up -- so the case may settle at $15k. Conversely, the Plaintiff demands $200k on that same $20k case. Defendant will come to the table with $2k.

Does it mean that the parties should walk away? HELL NO. It means that they need to spend time getting to that $20k, and they very may will.

My problem with the BO issue is that it is done by people who don't know how to negotiate (not a knock; most people don't) and most people are *******! They're either afraid to respond to a high BO because they're afraid of getting banned or they're afraid to make an offer but for it be too high.

You've used this example in just about every thread regarding blocking bidders based on unreasonable offers and it just does not apply to ebay. In the example you presented, the plaintiff (equated to the ebay seller) knows that his case is worth 20k and he can demand whatever he wants but in the end, he has the assurance that if he and the defendant (equated to the ebay buyer) don't come to an agreement, he will end up getting that 20k if the case goes to court.

On ebay, if a buyer and I enter into negotiations, I as a seller am not guaranteed to get that market value from the buyer. Is there some ebay judge somewhere who is going to force the buyer to pay me market value? No. The buyer is just going to walk away and I will have to find another buyer. I'm sure that you would have a very different view on this if the defendants you had to deal with could just walk away from the case and stiff your clients without any recourse.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

If the going rate for a card is $50, and you offer $15, you're not using it as the offer to open a negotiation. You're simply being a jerk-off. This is no debate, and this isn't "negotiation."

eBay isn't two exclusive parties sitting sitting across from each other hammering out a deal like in the settlement scenario Jeff posted. It's an open market where at any moment, someone else can swoop in with a different offer.

If you want to be taken seriously, make a serious offer. Sure, it can skew low, just like most sellers skew high...but if it's not in a negotiable "range" when a clear precedent has been set, you're either an adult wasting the seller's time...or a child.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

If the going rate for a card is $50, and you offer $15, you're not using it as the offer to open a negotiation. You're simply being a jerk-off. This is no debate, and this isn't "negotiation."

eBay isn't two exclusive parties sitting sitting across from each other hammering out a deal like in the settlement scenario Jeff posted. It's an open market where at any moment, someone else can swoop in with a different offer.

If you want to be taken seriously, make a serious offer. Sure, it can skew low, just like most sellers skew high...but if it's not in a negotiable "range" when a clear precedent has been set, you're either an adult wasting the seller's time...or a child.

You assume that there is a going rate for a card. Sellers vary from the going rate for many reasons -- they have too much into the card and the seller wants more than the going rate ; the player is hot and the seller wants more than the going rate; the player is cold and the seller wants more than the going rate; or the seller has his child support/rent/electric due and needs cash quick; or the seller just doesn't know the market rate. Sometimes a low offer begets a less than market offer.

A guy can go to a bar and ask 100 girls to go home and sleep with him. He's going to get slapped 99%+ of the time. However, he will find that one... and get lucky.

Again, your premise assumes that there IS a going rate for a card. What if it's of a player who just took off, and only has rare cards on the market? There isn't a going rate in that situation.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I'm going to hazard a guess and believe that everyone who has posted about blocking someone does not have a job that involves any negotiation.

A large part of what I do is to get a situation into a position where the parties can negotiate. And while one or both parties come to the table with unreasonable expectations, it's the other party's job to advise and convince the first party to get "with the program" and lower/raise their demand/offer.

eBay gives you 3 bites at the apple. It's not smart to use your best offer with the first. THat's the third offer. The first two are to try to feel out the other person and use the little note function to try to convince the party that your amount is more acceptable.

Let's put this into a more real world setting.

Plaintiff's case is worth $20k. Does Plaintiff come to the mediation demanding $20k? No - because of the process, we know that there has to be a back and forth, and the defendant will offer $10k. If the Plaintiff wants more, they can't get the defendant to give a little more without giving something up -- so the case may settle at $15k. Conversely, the Plaintiff demands $200k on that same $20k case. Defendant will come to the table with $2k.

Does it mean that the parties should walk away? HELL NO. It means that they need to spend time getting to that $20k, and they very may will.

My problem with the BO issue is that it is done by people who don't know how to negotiate (not a knock; most people don't) and most people are *******! They're either afraid to respond to a high BO because they're afraid of getting banned or they're afraid to make an offer but for it be too high.

You've used this example in just about every thread regarding blocking bidders based on unreasonable offers and it just does not apply to ebay. In the example you presented, the plaintiff (equated to the ebay seller) knows that his case is worth 20k and he can demand whatever he wants but in the end, he has the assurance that if he and the defendant (equated to the ebay buyer) don't come to an agreement, he will end up getting that 20k if the case goes to court.

On ebay, if a buyer and I enter into negotiations, I as a seller am not guaranteed to get that market value from the buyer. Is there some ebay judge somewhere who is going to force the buyer to pay me market value? No. The buyer is just going to walk away and I will have to find another buyer. I'm sure that you would have a very different view on this if the defendants you had to deal with could just walk away from the case and stiff your clients without any recourse.

The court, who will give you 20k, are the other buyers. However, you never know what's going to happen in court - you may get substantially more than 20k, you may get substantially less. You may not get there for 4 years. I didn't and don't factor court into the equation in this hypothetical.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

You assume that there is a going rate for a card. Sellers vary from the going rate for many reasons -- they have too much into the card and the seller wants more than the going rate ; the player is hot and the seller wants more than the going rate; the player is cold and the seller wants more than the going rate; or the seller has his child support/rent/electric due and needs cash quick; or the seller just doesn't know the market rate. Sometimes a low offer begets a less than market offer.

A guy can go to a bar and ask 100 girls to go home and sleep with him. He's going to get slapped 99%+ of the time. However, he will find that one... and get lucky.

Again, your premise assumes that there IS a going rate for a card. What if it's of a player who just took off, and only has rare cards on the market? There isn't a going rate in that situation.

If a guy walks into a bar, and after getting slapped by 99 women and 1 finally says yes...he should be concentrating on requiring a full physical and blood work before entering any sort of ****** interlude. And chances are extremely high, that #100 would indeed make him extremely unlucky.

 

[RZimm11]

I have been in the position for a card where I had no idea on the going rate of a card. It was on here, not ebay, but same situation.

It was a low numbered card which hadn't sold in over a year probably. Guy asked me what I'd offer and I said "I really don't know, how about 20?" He basically tried to walk away, saying he was looking for WAY more.

So I asked him what he was looking for, and we agreed on about 90 I believe. (Not sure exactly, it was a while ago)

So, in my case, it wasn't that I was trying to make an insane low-ball offer. I just wasn't familiar with the set/card. Just knew it was a Zimmerman I didn't have, and didn't have any past info to go on.

If he would have cut me off after the offer (blocked me), I'd probably have never gotten it. I've only seen one listed since then.

On another note, I think too many people get hung up on it being called "BEST OFFER" by ebay when they start with the argument of ~~why is it called a best offer when you can make 3 then?~~

It's only a name for the process. It's probably easier to label it that then something like "Starting point for negotiations." Quit taking everything so literally!