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Jastermereel

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Even though the buyer is an idiot, it ultimately won't make any difference. You'll have to give a refund no matter what. You might as well do it without risking a negative feedback.
 

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I got one better and scarier now since I now realize it has to have happened to others whom may or may not have caught it. I mean, I can't be the 1st :)

A guy leaves feedback, neg's me over a card that was perfect. Confused me. I thought maybe the post office jammed it up,by why didn't he contact me ? Why did he not open a claim for a refund ?

It was a guy from the other forum,who I had a busted deal with,that got so pissed over it,he purchased an item JUST to get even with me for not selling to him.

I think I would rather buyers remorse than vindictive ^&&*()# who you decide not to deal with on the forums ;)
 

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I am cardfan_79 and never have any problems on ebay. I had no idea that there were problems with the Shelby Miller's Auto being spotting, so yes I should have looked at the scan closer but I had no idea at the time that there would be an issue. It was as bad as buying a smudged auto. Bottom line is that if it was listed in the actual listing I would have paid more attention to it and I did not leave him negative feedback nor was I a jerk about it. It was an honest overlook that I didn't know at the time I should have been looking for. I have done business on there many times and feel that blocking me is unfair because I did nothing wrong and am an honest to good seller/buyer on there. Place your self in my shoes. You buy a card that you don't know has a history of having a spotty auto. I thought about buying another one. I looked at its listing and it did state a spotty auto so I started looking at others and almost all had that wrong with the card. I looked at the one I bought and then I noticed it. Would have been nice to know about it first hand and not been blindsided by it as I assume most sellers are honest and will tell about defects that should be listed. So I shouldn't be getting blocked when it wasn't my fault. If anyone wants to talk to me about it please do so.
 

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Welcome to FCB. I did not block you because you are a bad person, I blocked you because there was a clear scan of the card in the auction. It's nothing personal - thank you for returning the card. Here is the terrible auto in question - this is the exact scan that was in the auction.

2010bowmanchromerefractorsBCP204.jpg
 

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I agree I should have looked at it closer, but don't you think it would have been nice to have it listed in the description?
 

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Eef97 said:
I agree I should have looked at it closer, but don't you think it would have been nice to have it listed in the description?

The picture is bigger than the description in most cases. If you can see words you can see pictures. You got a refund let it go.
 

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The card was sold as NM/MT. I honestly did not notice the smudging, and I offered a full refund as soon as it was returned. So you have your $40 back, and I am still out the $2 it cost to send you the card with DC, and you spend $2 to send it back to me with DC, and I have the card. If you want perfect cards, buy them already graded that way. If I returned every card that I bought which has a slight corner ding that was not listed in the description, I would return more cards than I keep.

Nobody has a vendetta against you. Given the climate for ebay sellers these days, most would prefer not to sell to people who do not look at scans of what they are buying. Like I said, it is nothing personal.


If this is what it took to get you to FCB, then great. I hope we can both put this behind us because these boards are a great place to be and you will learn a ton about the hobby.
 

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It's part of your duty as a buyer to look at the scan plus the description. If you aren't competent enough to do that, you shouldn't be ebaying. The scan clearly shows the autograph.
 

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Eef97 said:
I agree I should have looked at it closer, but don't you think it would have been nice to have it listed in the description?

You read a description but don't look at a picture? That puts you in a pretty small percentage of eBay buyers.
 

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I honestly did look at the scan but I didn't notice it because I didn't enlarge it like I should have. I sent card back got a refund and no negative feedback has been left. Well I am upset now because he is on here getting people to block me when it really isn't necessary as I have never had any issues. It was only a $40 card so it wasn't even that big of a deal I just didn't want a bad auto on the card when I felt as many would it should have been in the description when he clearly stated all defects would be listed. It was not. So it is both our faults, mine not looking it over and his for not listing it yet I am the one members on here are blocking. Bottom line is I never had an issue before and if someone wants to block me shouldn't they block him as well too? It was an honest mistake on both people that has been corrected but I don't agree with him posting comments on here to get me blocked when he needs it as well if I get blocked as he is at fault also.
 

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a blockable offense? meh, probably not considering some of the real nut jobs that are out there buying cards. Simple refund and move on. Looks like there wasn't any ill will, insult, or feedback issues. Some of you take a minor item return personally. Seems as though this should go in the wash-your-hands-of-it pile
 

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That is all I am saying. Sorry if I was wrong in it, and no hard feelings. I did learn to ask questions and look closer, but believe me I do not want to be considered a bad/jerk buyer. I don't like those types as well. So all apologies and I make a promise to do better, but please as sellers list anything as minor as you may think it is because some of us get in a hurry and may not take the time we should to look a scan over closely. I am from now on.
 

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Scans clearly showed condition, I would not refund but I am a hard@$$ when it comes to these kind of complainers. :mrgreen:
 

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autorook said:
Scans clearly showed condition, I would not refund but I am a hard@$$ when it comes to these kind of complainers. :mrgreen:

Yeah I see that side of it too, but as long as the buyer doesn't come at the seller like a huge internet bull-tard, its not worth the hassle. Had he been an upity snob with no politeness in his correspondence, I'd be inclined to lean your way too
 

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mudflap02 said:
Welcome to FCB. I did not block you because you are a bad person, I blocked you because there was a clear scan of the card in the auction. It's nothing personal - thank you for returning the card. Here is the terrible auto in question - this is the exact scan that was in the auction.

2010bowmanchromerefractorsBCP204.jpg


Oh come on already people siding with the buyer need to look at the scan. I looked at the auction. seriously if you are buying look at the freaking scan. Its as clear as day.
 

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Thanks for the replies and trust me this was the one time issue with no bad intentions. I definately do not want to be considered "one of those buyers" as I really am not. I sell on there also and I do realize that from now on I should be more careful when buying on there so I don't waste a sellers money or time. This has helped me become a better eBayer and I would be certain that through this whole ordeal me and the seller were polite, no bad feedback was left, no claims were filed. We settled it very civilized and if I had it to do over again I would've have just traded it at a show or sold it myself. So I apologize to all and I am know a much more careful buyer for both my sake and the sellers. Thanks FCB for helping me out.
 

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Just curious as to if the seller of the card has decided to remove the below from future auctions:

The cards pictured are the exact cards you will receive. All cards are sold as NM/MT - I do not make any representation as to what they will grade, but if I notice any defects they will be mentioned in the auction.
 

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Eef97 said:
but please as sellers list anything as minor as you may think it is because some of us get in a hurry and may not take the time we should to look a scan over closely. I am from now on.

I wasn't going to block him til I saw this. "I don't want to take two second out of my time to look at a scan so I'd rather cost someone money and time because I'm too lazy"...democrats.
 

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Would it really be so hard to simply accept the return, keep the buyer happy and hope for return business from a satisfied customer that knows the seller is an honest guy.

I love selling on ebay because I get a ton of return business and make great profits. All because I try to make the customer happy. I might lose out on 2.00 shipping a card that gets returned once in awhile but when that same buyer leaves glowing feedback they often happily return and spend money $ on my cards.

I can't understand the mentality of driving off customers blocking buyers and getting pissy if a person gets buyer remorse. Is really so hard to accept the return edit the listing to include a description about the flaw of the card and move along?

But in the end I love threads like this b/c another seller drives off a customer plus a bunch of other sellers jump on the band wagon and black list him. I wish more sellers would be rude to more customers b/c it just helps line the pockets of the nice guys like me. :D

Thank you sellers with crappy customer service.
 

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