Fair Value for '07 BCDP Alex Gordon Red Ref #1/5?

[matfanofold]

...If he pops his glove one more time after fielding the ball I'm going to punch him in the ****...

Would it be out of the question to ask for a pic of you? I really need to get a proper visual of who would say this!!!

:lol:

 

[lisu]

...If he pops his glove one more time after fielding the ball I'm going to punch him in the ****...

Would it be out of the question to ask for a pic of you? I really need to get a proper visual of who would say this!!!

:lol:

lol - I think Justin said that!

 

[All The Hype]

I've been getting hit with a bunch of ridiculous lowball offers lately too. I don't ever get offended by offers, but sometimes I wonder why people even offer. I'm getting offers of $10 and $12.50 for a BGS 9.5 version of a card that sells $25 raw. $30 for a RC Red Ref of a decent major leaguer (who supposedly still has the potential to be a superstar if he puts it together)? Come on, a gold might get that much.

Again I echo, what's the point of even offering if you're gonna throw out such a ridiculously low number?

As far as value of your Gordon, I would think anywhere in the $75-$150 range is pretty fair.

I'm sure for the same reason I do it. There was once a card I really wanted, I would have paid $120, but the guy put the BIN/BO @ $500! I just figured he was stupid and didn't want to hear about my "lowball" offer of $120. Then a few days later I saw that he accepted an offer of $80! So now I just offer what I'm willing to pay, because you never know... I'm not trying to insult anybody by saying their card is worth way less than they want for it, I just want to make sure that they aren't willing to accept what I'm willing to offer.

Yeah makes sense I guess, but I mean my BIN was very reasonable in my opinion (like 40 BIN/BO on a BGS 9.5 version of a card that has been selling for $25 raw) and an offer of $15? Guess it makes sense for the rarer cards though since it's tougher to establish a market value.

 

[cubsfan2513]

When you pulled this card, I sent you a link to a member who had the other 4. Did you contact him about buying it?

yep, we were in contact, but his offers were < 100. wanted to contact him again 1 last time about it to see if he'll pay > $100, but forget his fcb name (cub...?)

Hey Im the guy with the other 4. I have a pending offer on your ebay listing for $100. I would be happy to just do the deal for $100 on here to save you the ebay fees. I really cant go higher than $100 becuase Ive picked up the other 4 for $62,$73,$77, and $80 and thats back when he was still considered a popular prospect. Like people on here have said, I'm probably crazy for offering that much on a guy who seems to be a bus,t but I would love to get the 5 red refractors together.

 

[Huffamaniac]

I do not see Guillen being on the team long term, so that would free up the DH spot

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/st...&sitSplit=&venueID=&Submit=Submit&timeFrame=1

Going to have to go ahead and disagree with you.

So they move Butler to DH to put Gordon at first. Where does Guillen go? He cannot play in the field. Gordon has 2 errors in 3 tries. If he pops his glove one more time after fielding the ball I'm going to punch him in the ****. Butler has busted his ass to get better in the field and it's showing as the above stats will provide. There is no need to move a guy that has made 1 error to put in a guy that will easily make errors at 3x the clip butler makes and can only hit a fastball.

i was so excited when Gordon came here. Until he was unwilling to take coaching from guys that had won things like batting crowns and rookies of the year. Screw him.

I do not see Butler playing 1st long term. He is terrible at 1st. He is best suited at DH

I'd hold onto it Jen. If he shows anything, it's going to go up. If he shows nothing he's going to be traded. He's been told to shat or get off the pot. There is talk of moving him to 1st, but Butler is playing decent. Basically, I don't see him in KC if he gets hot. The town is through with his bull hockey.

 

[matfanofold]

...If he pops his glove one more time after fielding the ball I'm going to punch him in the ****...

Would it be out of the question to ask for a pic of you? I really need to get a proper visual of who would say this!!!

:lol:

lol - I think Justin said that!

Bah, my mistake. Although I'm still piqued as to a proper visual of anyone who would say such a perfectly blended string of pearls.

 

[justinmandawg]

he may last the contract. If he's somewhat decent, they are going to resign him to a 3 year after this season. Gordon's defense is weak and he just doesn't give a ****. There's no reason to keep him if Butler can go .992 for the season as a defensive player and hit over .300. They won't resign Gordon. Butler is getting an extension after this season (or during). You've also not thought about Kila. When or if Guillen is gone, Kila comes up and they split time between he and Butler at 1b and dh.

I do not see Guillen being on the team long term, so that would free up the DH spot

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/st...&sitSplit=&venueID=&Submit=Submit&timeFrame=1

Going to have to go ahead and disagree with you.

So they move Butler to DH to put Gordon at first. Where does Guillen go? He cannot play in the field. Gordon has 2 errors in 3 tries. If he pops his glove one more time after fielding the ball I'm going to punch him in the ****. Butler has busted his ass to get better in the field and it's showing as the above stats will provide. There is no need to move a guy that has made 1 error to put in a guy that will easily make errors at 3x the clip butler makes and can only hit a fastball.

i was so excited when Gordon came here. Until he was unwilling to take coaching from guys that had won things like batting crowns and rookies of the year. Screw him.

I do not see Butler playing 1st long term. He is terrible at 1st. He is best suited at DH

I'd hold onto it Jen. If he shows anything, it's going to go up. If he shows nothing he's going to be traded. He's been told to shat or get off the pot. There is talk of moving him to 1st, but Butler is playing decent. Basically, I don't see him in KC if he gets hot. The town is through with his bull hockey.

 

[Huffamaniac]

Actually I am not high on Kila at all and do not feel he will ever be a full time player.

Again, I just do not think Guillen will be on the Royals for long. He is not the type of player that sticks with a team very long

Butler fielding percentage does not take into account all the balls he can not get to. He does not have good range and only can make the routine play.

he may last the contract. If he's somewhat decent, they are going to resign him to a 3 year after this season. Gordon's defense is weak and he just doesn't give a quit swearing There's no reason to keep him if Butler can go .992 for the season as a defensive player and hit over .300. They won't resign Gordon. Butler is getting an extension after this season (or during). You've also not thought about Kila. When or if Guillen is gone, Kila comes up and they split time between he and Butler at 1b and dh.

I do not see Guillen being on the team long term, so that would free up the DH spot

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/st...&sitSplit=&venueID=&Submit=Submit&timeFrame=1

Going to have to go ahead and disagree with you.

So they move Butler to DH to put Gordon at first. Where does Guillen go? He cannot play in the field. Gordon has 2 errors in 3 tries. If he pops his glove one more time after fielding the ball I'm going to punch him in the ****. Butler has busted his ass to get better in the field and it's showing as the above stats will provide. There is no need to move a guy that has made 1 error to put in a guy that will easily make errors at 3x the clip butler makes and can only hit a fastball.

i was so excited when Gordon came here. Until he was unwilling to take coaching from guys that had won things like batting crowns and rookies of the year. Screw him.

I do not see Butler playing 1st long term. He is terrible at 1st. He is best suited at DH

I'd hold onto it Jen. If he shows anything, it's going to go up. If he shows nothing he's going to be traded. He's been told to shat or get off the pot. There is talk of moving him to 1st, but Butler is playing decent. Basically, I don't see him in KC if he gets hot. The town is through with his bull hockey.

 

[justinmandawg]

We can agree to disagree but I'm guessing you haven't watched all that many Royals games this year.

Actually I am not high on Kila at all and do not feel he will ever be a full time player.

Again, I just do not think Guillen will be on the Royals for long. He is not the type of player that sticks with a team very long

Butler fielding percentage does not take into account all the balls he can not get to. He does not have good range and only can make the routine play.

he may last the contract. If he's somewhat decent, they are going to resign him to a 3 year after this season. Gordon's defense is weak and he just doesn't give a quit swearing There's no reason to keep him if Butler can go .992 for the season as a defensive player and hit over .300. They won't resign Gordon. Butler is getting an extension after this season (or during). You've also not thought about Kila. When or if Guillen is gone, Kila comes up and they split time between he and Butler at 1b and dh.

I do not see Guillen being on the team long term, so that would free up the DH spot

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/st...&sitSplit=&venueID=&Submit=Submit&timeFrame=1

Going to have to go ahead and disagree with you.

So they move Butler to DH to put Gordon at first. Where does Guillen go? He cannot play in the field. Gordon has 2 errors in 3 tries. If he pops his glove one more time after fielding the ball I'm going to punch him in the ****. Butler has busted his ass to get better in the field and it's showing as the above stats will provide. There is no need to move a guy that has made 1 error to put in a guy that will easily make errors at 3x the clip butler makes and can only hit a fastball.

i was so excited when Gordon came here. Until he was unwilling to take coaching from guys that had won things like batting crowns and rookies of the year. Screw him.

I do not see Butler playing 1st long term. He is terrible at 1st. He is best suited at DH

[quote="justinmandawg":wjhi0gw2]I'd hold onto it Jen. If he shows anything, it's going to go up. If he shows nothing he's going to be traded. He's been told to shat or get off the pot. There is talk of moving him to 1st, but Butler is playing decent. Basically, I don't see him in KC if he gets hot. The town is through with his bull hockey.

[/quote:wjhi0gw2]

 

[Huffamaniac]

Just the three against Boston and one against Toronto this week. Butler did not look good in the field against Boston, and I am a huge Butler fan. Butler's bat is amazing and I feel he will be representing his team in the 2012 All Star game in KC

We can agree to disagree but I'm guessing you haven't watched all that many Royals games this year.

Actually I am not high on Kila at all and do not feel he will ever be a full time player.

Again, I just do not think Guillen will be on the Royals for long. He is not the type of player that sticks with a team very long

Butler fielding percentage does not take into account all the balls he can not get to. He does not have good range and only can make the routine play.

he may last the contract. If he's somewhat decent, they are going to resign him to a 3 year after this season. Gordon's defense is weak and he just doesn't give a quit swearing There's no reason to keep him if Butler can go .992 for the season as a defensive player and hit over .300. They won't resign Gordon. Butler is getting an extension after this season (or during). You've also not thought about Kila. When or if Guillen is gone, Kila comes up and they split time between he and Butler at 1b and dh.

I do not see Guillen being on the team long term, so that would free up the DH spot

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/st...&sitSplit=&venueID=&Submit=Submit&timeFrame=1

Going to have to go ahead and disagree with you.

So they move Butler to DH to put Gordon at first. Where does Guillen go? He cannot play in the field. Gordon has 2 errors in 3 tries. If he pops his glove one more time after fielding the ball I'm going to punch him in the ****. Butler has busted his ass to get better in the field and it's showing as the above stats will provide. There is no need to move a guy that has made 1 error to put in a guy that will easily make errors at 3x the clip butler makes and can only hit a fastball.

i was so excited when Gordon came here. Until he was unwilling to take coaching from guys that had won things like batting crowns and rookies of the year. Screw him.

[quote="Huffamaniac":xb6ka1i1]I do not see Butler playing 1st long term. He is terrible at 1st. He is best suited at DH

[quote="justinmandawg":xb6ka1i1]I'd hold onto it Jen. If he shows anything, it's going to go up. If he shows nothing he's going to be traded. He's been told to shat or get off the pot. There is talk of moving him to 1st, but Butler is playing decent. Basically, I don't see him in KC if he gets hot. The town is through with his bull hockey.

[/quote:xb6ka1i1][/quote:xb6ka1i1]

 

[shephech]

$100 PP seems like more then fair... plus he is willing to deal on here and help you avoid all those dang ebay fees.

I would take the money for it buddy .

Shep :ugeek:

 

[richtree]

THEY BLEW ANOTHER WIN FOR ZACH .....SMH