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Flipping Razor Cards So Far: Good result or Bad Result?

Were you happy with your initial Razor flips?


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HoustonTeams4Me

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Besides the guy's that were already mentioned, what about J.Castro? B.Wallace? E.Martin? Heck, even J.Smoak is selling for turd's as opposed to what he "should" be getting (as he's probably the best in term's of profit potential thus far)! IMO Razor Sig Series potential in the investment market was destroyed by none other than Razor itself, whom opted to fill thier own pocket's instead by mimicking Sig Series & releasing it as a Chrome/Metal version not so long after (which would include "Chrome"/Metal auto's)....Who buys a bowman card when they could get the bowman chrome version? :? I think Metal Auto's have potential (though the distribution method may end up "stunting" it's growth potential).
Maybe year 2 for Razor will be the year to breakout? I think many of these growing pain's could have been avoided but it's a learning process (I just wish these card's would begin to "walk" as they've "crawled" for a bit too long)! :D
 

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soccerman034 said:
There are plenty of good selling Atheletic prospects out there. My point is, the fact that Weeks is an Athletic does not hurt or help his value.

I can't think of one.

In response to the thread, I did really well up until the metal announcements. Luckily I made a profit on all I had by that time, as the values on everything I've held has fallen. Tim Beckhams were closing in on $60 per at one point, now they are back in the $30 range.
 

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soccerman034 said:
The Oakland A's are one of the most popular teams in the MLB, especially when it comes to prospects.

Have to disagree with you here Soccerman.

See: Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson

Both top prospects who have had at least some MLB success.

Next UP: Chris Carter
 

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LLWesMan said:
soccerman034 said:
There are plenty of good selling Atheletic prospects out there. My point is, the fact that Weeks is an Athletic does not hurt or help his value.

I can't think of one.

In response to the thread, I did really well up until the metal announcements. Luckily I made a profit on all I had by that time, as the values on everything I've held has fallen. Tim Beckhams were closing in on $60 per at one point, now they are back in the $30 range.

Rashun Dixon has realitivly high prices (I paid $120+ for each of the /5 elite golds I bought)....Inoa has sold well and continues to sell for a good amount well, Cahill and Anderson sold well before the call up, Mazzaro is selling well, and there are others. Those are the ones on the top of my head.
 

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I'd call this a fairly impressive ending price. Especially since the words "black" and "silver" weren't in the title.

[ebay:2usqm78i]120436941007[/ebay:2usqm78i]
 

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soccerman034 said:
LLWesMan said:
soccerman034 said:
There are plenty of good selling Atheletic prospects out there. My point is, the fact that Weeks is an Athletic does not hurt or help his value.

I can't think of one.

In response to the thread, I did really well up until the metal announcements. Luckily I made a profit on all I had by that time, as the values on everything I've held has fallen. Tim Beckhams were closing in on $60 per at one point, now they are back in the $30 range.

Rashun Dixon has realitivly high prices (I paid $120+ for each of the /5 elite golds I bought)....Inoa has sold well and continues to sell for a good amount well, Cahill and Anderson sold well before the call up, Mazzaro is selling well, and there are others. Those are the ones on the top of my head.

I wouldn't put them in my top 15 markets. If Inoa, Cahill or Anderson were on one of the top markets they would have gone nuts - especially the last two. Instead they saw almost no spike.
 

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Jaypers said:
I'd call this a fairly impressive ending price. Especially since the words "black" and "silver" weren't in the title.

[ebay:2zxsce0e]120436941007[/ebay:2zxsce0e]

Impressive for Razor, but what would a Brian Matusz Red Refractor auto /5 get at auction right now? $1000?
 

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LLWesMan said:
soccerman034 said:
LLWesMan said:
soccerman034 said:
There are plenty of good selling Atheletic prospects out there. My point is, the fact that Weeks is an Athletic does not hurt or help his value.

I can't think of one.

In response to the thread, I did really well up until the metal announcements. Luckily I made a profit on all I had by that time, as the values on everything I've held has fallen. Tim Beckhams were closing in on $60 per at one point, now they are back in the $30 range.

Rashun Dixon has realitivly high prices (I paid $120+ for each of the /5 elite golds I bought)....Inoa has sold well and continues to sell for a good amount well, Cahill and Anderson sold well before the call up, Mazzaro is selling well, and there are others. Those are the ones on the top of my head.

I wouldn't put them in my top 15 markets. If Inoa, Cahill or Anderson were on one of the top markets they would have gone nuts - especially the last two. Instead they saw almost no spike.

IMO, market is often times overrated.

Yes, places like Boston, New York, and Chicago often produce higher prices when a prospect goes off, but the difference between most of the other markets is slim to none.
 

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soccerman034 said:
Jaypers said:
I'd call this a fairly impressive ending price. Especially since the words "black" and "silver" weren't in the title.

[ebay:2zqb3crd]120436941007[/ebay:2zqb3crd]

Impressive for Razor, but what would a Brian Matusz Red Refractor auto /5 get at auction right now? $1000?

He's Razor exclusive.
 

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Jaypers said:
soccerman034 said:
Jaypers said:
I'd call this a fairly impressive ending price. Especially since the words "black" and "silver" weren't in the title.

[ebay:1hgg2tav]120436941007[/ebay:1hgg2tav]

Impressive for Razor, but what would a Brian Matusz Red Refractor auto /5 get at auction right now? $1000?

He's Razor exclusive.

Ummm, it sold well because it has a special word in the title.....

Matusz

Personally, I have done pretty well on my Razor stuff, and the little stuff I have left I got at very low buy-in prices.
 

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For the vast majority who busted boxes,
they got destroyed

Pride might not allow them to admit it but the vast majority got destroyed who busted boxes

Even some of the /5 that sold for 3 bills now only getting about 2/3 of that

I know some here who bought some of the /5 and would lose if they re-sold them right now

When Razor came out many boxes = $75-90 on average

Even if a person pulls a Wieters in the box, they probably only going to get 30-50% of their money back

I know that's the risk with buying boxes but you would think that if you pulled the best possible non-parallel auto you would atleast come close to breaking even or be within 20% of breaking even

With Letterman, I've seen many cards /5 that have sold for less than price of pack

Overall, way way way way way too many autos sold for less than shipping and handling costs


I think part of the reason why it seems that cards are "drying up" is because it isn't worth it to pay listing fees and such and then have the card go for few dollars

The Metals and Letterman killed the Sig Series
 

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Hey Jaypers, you still have the other Hosmer black auto /5? What you think we could get for those currently
 

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arod305 said:
Hey Jaypers, you still have the other Hosmer black auto /5? What you think we could get for those currently

Yes, and I'm not in a hurry to sell right now.
 

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A Bowman Chrome auto and corresponding parallels.

soccerman034 said:
cgilmo said:
now now jon


you know that performance dosen't always equal a price spike


let him get some more hype

He's a first round pick. He was on the last Hot Sheet. Hes a Razor exclusive.

Not sure what more he really needs....
 

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arod305 said:
Hey Jaypers, you still have the other Hosmer black auto /5? What you think we could get for those currently


I think the Hosmer and Alonso's were selling for about $300 at one time

I think one of the Hosmers went for about 200 in a non-ebay transaction but am not 100% sure on that

I know it changes hands quite a bit

For people who bought singles and sold at the perfect time, they did fine.
That is a small minority

I never understood why sell for .99
I would rather keep the card for a buck




Razor Sig Series is the perfect example why auto checklist involving prospects should not reach more than 30-35 players (and even that might be generous)
The chance of having way too many players sell for the price of the stamp to mail it will scare some from busting wax and only buying singles
 

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I thought the vast majority of those who busted boxes of sig series were either helped or burned by collation issues. I for one Busted a case when Sig series came out and pulled

22 cards/199
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Alsonso x2, Weeks, alvarez, Posey and Smoak I pulled the dual Wieters/ Skipworth and I pulled a David cooper /25

I pulled an unbelievable amount of the "razor exclusive" Which I think hurt the overall progress of the Sig Series. Once Letterman and Metal were Announced it killed Sig series Value.

I have however used some sales of of things to pick up a case of Sig series to sit on because i feel that once some of these guys really go off (like wallace last Summer) I think a small profit can be made on the boxes Maybe 10-15% after fees and shipping I think most prospectors hope to hit the Jay Bruce Base chromes kinda profit an that won't happen every time and is actually quite rare. If i sell a card that makes a $2 profit that is still a profit.

I know For some of the /199 parallel autos from sig prices have really dropped but there is always room for gain when someone gets their name mentioned on ESPN or something. I mean look at what it did for strasburg's cards and everyone knew that he was gonna be the number 1 pick months ago!
 

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Jaypers said:
soccerman034 said:
Jaypers said:
I'd call this a fairly impressive ending price. Especially since the words "black" and "silver" weren't in the title.

[ebay:2t9hjdw4]120436941007[/ebay:2t9hjdw4]

Impressive for Razor, but what would a Brian Matusz Red Refractor auto /5 get at auction right now? $1000?

He's Razor exclusive.

Thats my point exactly, Razor cards are just not demending a good amount of money, even the best cards in the whole product (who happen to be exclusive)....this means that the average profit margin will also be smaller.
 

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soccerman034 said:
Jaypers said:
soccerman034 said:
Jaypers said:
I'd call this a fairly impressive ending price. Especially since the words "black" and "silver" weren't in the title.

[ebay:1icyfgxm]120436941007[/ebay:1icyfgxm]

Impressive for Razor, but what would a Brian Matusz Red Refractor auto /5 get at auction right now? $1000?

He's Razor exclusive.

Thats my point exactly, Razor cards are just not demending a good amount of money, even the best cards in the whole product (who happen to be exclusive)....this means that the average profit margin will also be smaller.

In fairness, Topps does have a 56 year head start on Razor.
 

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Saying people who bust boxes got destroyed is laughable, you can say that about every single product. I opened 2 boxes of BCDP, a good product and if I sold eveything maybe would make 20 dollars shipped. Those boxes cost 130 at launch for both.
 

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soccerman034 said:
There are plenty of good selling Atheletic prospects out there. My point is, the fact that Weeks is an Athletic does not hurt or help his value.

The good selling prospects just played for the A's in the 80's though.
 

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